I'm not going to give up on team either, but not optimistic at this point either. The players seem to depend too much on something external to their own abilities (coaches, key players?) not sure exactly what...but I said it before I'll say it again...seems the players generally lack confidence. Flash back to our SB year..li saw/felt a lot of confidence from players. Even when we were down, they believed in their ability to turn the tide. You just don't get that feeling this year from players. They look a bit lifeless. A bit hesitant. I hope they prove these words here wrong, I truly do. This team is better than this.