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Kubiak? Didn't see it coming. Won't even suggest that I saw it coming. still finding it hard to believe that it came. That being said, I believe that this could be one of the most significant moves towards adding to the Ravens offensive culture, ever. Can't be sure. I just have a feeling.

I hope that someone like a John "Doc" Holliday from Marshall gets a look before the decision is made. I have very little faith in the current pool of NFL regulars to give our team the continuity and offensive balance that it needs. In addition, I think those current politically league vetted types are not independent thinkers enough to be 'real' leaders in building new cultures or evolving a successful scheme into the future.

Myth: When looking for an Offensive or Defensive Coordinator and/or Coach for a NFL franchise you must look within the pool of currently vetted NFL coaches and coordinators to achieve success and implement 'new' directions. Fact: Some of the most revolutionary schemes, cultures and dynasties came from hiring college coaches who were not vetted in the league. Notable NFL Revolutionaries: Vince Lombardi and Bill Walsh

These interviews for OC will most likely extend past the SB. There are some notable, vetted assistants still available for interviews (Brian Callahan, Brian Daboll, Ejiro Evero, Tom Cable, etc.). I don't have any opinions on any of these or those already interviewed. I just hope that we don't follow the normal, dogmatic, drone-like, 'Pedigree, Pedigree, Pedigree!" mantra or 'you must follow what everybody has done in the past' nonsense when we make our choice. I hope that we break the mold and hire fresh ideas and new faces that many have never considered. Let's give them something to talk about! An OC that takes all the pressure off Joe, Rice, Castillo and the Oline to allow them to 'Shock and Amaze' the league next year. OCs - Are still out there.

Agreed. We need to act with some urgency and thatnew OC should have a big role and planning the draft. My pick - Kirk Warner

OC - Kurt Warner

Most likely it's probably been said already, but again, my choice for OC is somebody who's capatible with Joe, yet strong enough to lead and take risk when necessary and commands enough player respect and support that they will themselves to do things never believed were possible...and succeed. OC - Pursuit of a New Standard of Excellence.

Agreed. Many people did in fact say that Jimmy Smith was a bust during his 1st season. http://espn.go.com/blog/baltimore-ravens/post/_/id/3596/how-jimmy-smith-turned-the-corner And there are some that have said Elam is a bust, as well. You don't need exact numbers when stating a fact. A fact is just a fact.

True. That's a fact as sad as it is. I believe we find away to improve in this area in 2014 and we'll rank as a top 5 defense in all catergories.

Myth: The Patriots will surpass the Ravens as the team with the highest playoff winning percentage historically because of their 5 consecutive playoff appearances if they make it to the Super Bowl this season. Fact: The only team that could have challenged our 'Best Playoff Winning Percentage in NFL History' this year would have been the Packers (currently 2nd) had they won out.

Myth: Because the Ravens finished at 8-8 this season it's impossible to make it back to Super Bowl for a long time. Fact: The last (and only) year the Ravens went 8-8 in the 1999 we won the Super Bowl the very next year. This is still possible.

Myth: Flacco just needs help. he'll be 'elite' with a new OC, new lineman, new WRs, new QB coach. Fact: Flacco is our franchise quarterback. As he has performed as our quarterback the Ravens have been able to set the highest postseason winning percentage over the past 5 years.

Great sig! You probably got in a little late in the discussion, but links were posted to challenge the 'opinion' that Castillo was totally responsible for the offensive performance this season. The years as Eagles OL Coach and sack totals under Castillo during the years he coached the O-Line, but never stated anything good that he did there (read the profile). I posted 2 different links that directly responded to a follow-up opinion nothing else: 1st http://www.baltimore...74-61921f736f8d (Allows fans to read again why he's here, not to rush to judgement and states that he was the OL Coach on the Eagles during those years.) The point was: The 'Fact' that was originally posted was not a fact at all. and Casillo could not be held solely responsible for O-Line play this season (too many variables). Then came OPINION, again (that keeps Myths alive - imo) The followup poster - raven - wanted to prove that the fact that he was the Eagles Oline Coach during the years listed and did eventually accept that the original so-called 'Fact' about Castillo was in fact just a Myth. I hope that helped. If you go back in read the thread, you'll see what I mean. This could be a great thread to use Facts as Myth killers, but when opinions shows-up supporting a myth they only perpetuate the myth. Myth: Jaun Castillo is solely responsible for the Ravens Offense performing so horribly this season. Fact: Jaun Castillo can not be held totally accountable for the offense's play this year, but holds some responsibility as the Ravens' Offensive Line Coach.

Sorry. My bad, I didn't see where you posted the "Official" roster link. That's cool. I'm just glad that you have now admitted that the 'Myth' itself is in fact just another myth. Agreed. It doesn't really matter how we got there, but the thread works. That's what's great! Good post.

Fact: Wiki is not an official anything, dude. Even on Wiki it only states, "Castillo coached the offensive line for thirteen seasons, from 1998–2010. " It never confirms in what capacity. It never states O-Line Coach. I admit that that's just a getting overly technical and it really doesn't matted. The real fact is that Castillo is not to be the total blame for our offensive.

Agreed, for the most part. Except for the statement '...that the run game was not in the need of repair." That statement is opinion. I ageed with that opinion when the scheme first got changed, but lately, I'm leaning towards the idea that if we master this we will have more success going into the future as a franchise. (Just an opinion - not fact) I still think this is one 'cool' thread. Myth or Fact?

Myth: The Ravens were consistantly picked in Vegas before the season to make the playoffs for the last 5 years. Fact: The Ravens were never picked to win more than 8 games in the last 5 years. Fact: We beat the odds during all of our last 5 playoff years and even this year (Vegas had us at less than 8 wins this season)

Not in the years indicated. According to league records . In those years Castillo is listed as 'Notable Assistant'. Ref: http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/phi/2009.htm Using this site you can go all the way back in history to a team's 1st game to the last game. Facts. Castillo was more known as technique 'Guru'. He is more accredited for making several linemen Pro Bowlers through precise technique and training regiments.

And this is not a fact. There are too many variables that 'could' have played a role in the run game collapse (Bad ZB audibles called on the line before the snap, bad play audibles and/or no QB audibles when we should have changed the play, better defensive reads, etc.).

Fact: Castillo was not O-Line Coach in 2006, 2007 (John Harbargh), 2008 Doug Pederson, 2009 Doug Pederson, 2010 Doug Pederson Fact: Under Castillo Philadelphia’s offense set franchise records in total points (439), total net yards (6,230), and yards per rush (5.4, the NFL’s top mark). With each of the team’s primary running backs averaging more than 5.0 yards per attempt, the Eagles became the first team in NFL history to average at least 4.0 yards per carry in all 16 regular season games, helping LT Jason Peters earn his second-straight Pro Bowl nod. Under Castillo, four linemen earned their firstcareer Pro Bowl honors: Tra Thomas, Jermane Mayberry, Jon Runyan and Shawn Andrews. http://www.baltimoreravens.com/team/coaches/Juan-Castillo/71348012-38bb-4777-a474-61921f736f8d

Just as I thought. Fact!

Cool. I really, really get that, but you know how you really know when you hit on a myth and contest it with a fact? Very few will respond, because most don't want to deal with facts. Facts don't open doors to opinion. A fact is a fact. Some fans here have posted actually facts to rebuke the myths. That's was up. Others are just out there in another thread where opinion rules and everything in between. That's cool, not factual input. Let's try this: Myth: The Ravens did not make the playoffs because of Joe Flacco, Harb, OL, Caldwell and Rice. Fact: The Ravens didn't make the playoffs, because we did not have a record this year that was enough to qualifiy based on other teams records in the active year and established NFL standards for qualification. Let's see who get's this.

I get that, but 'fact' or 'myth' seems to be more direct and other threads seem to be more of the same 'speculation' with passion driven opinions (some not so thought-out). That's cool there, but there's nothing more than presenting 'myth' and 'fact' and a real, unchallengable format. That would be productive. Everything else is 'blah, blah, blah...'. I think we can do this thing if we keep it real. You know...?

Great points here, but there's nothing that defines the 'fact' as it relates to 'must sign' or not. It's all opinion with supportive facts to argue an opinion, but completely subjective overall. For example: Must sign could just be the relationships that he has on the team. For the FO and Flacco that may be the 'fact' that they believe will help the team. See what I mean? It's all subjective. Good thought though. This is one cool thread.