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We wouldn't touch Jack because of the knee and wouldn't touch Spence (or Tunsil ) because of the character issues and extensive off-field history. I am okay with that. We can't afford rookies that will sit or get suspended. Josh Gordon was a similar high upside, long off field history guy and I think that's not panning out so well for the Browns. I am not convinced the two WR you are listing are actually even better than the two WR we took, but frankly no WR is likely going to leapfrog SS, BP, MW, KA, Camp, D Brown, Butler, Mathews etc, anyhow, so high upside multi-year projects are not so unreasonable with that position. We didn't need a play now WR. We took three DE that were high on our board after Bosa was gone, so I don't think the later two you listed even ever made the radar or should be sources of disappointment. So that just leaves LB (other than Jack) and CB. CB we addressed, but maybe missed out on a few of the better guys because we were mainly focused on DE early. With Suggs and Doom at the later end of their careers we needed to find pass rushers, so I am cool with that. Time will tell. ILB we ignored-- either they are convinced Brown or Orr is ready or that they'll scoop one up as a cap casualty. For one position that's very doable-- it's how we got Smith. We went into this draft thinking pass rush, and came out with three good ones plus a well regarded UDFA at the position. And a left tackle. That's already a decent draft. But then players like Dixon that give us more playmaking dimensions is icing. Nobody knows if these guys will pan out but it's hard to say the Ravens didn't get guys who might be big role players. And it's very possible they dodged a few time bombs in the process.

Yeah I think people are trying to make the Andrews statement mean more than it does. He doesn't need microfracture surgery right now. That's all Andrews said. We all know that. All 32 teams already knew that. But we also know his cartilage is screwed up, which means there's a very good chance he will need microfracture surgery some day in the future, and that his NFL career will be shortened because of this injury. Jack himself stated that this is what he'd been advised and nothing Andrews said disputed this -- he just tried to downplay the imminence. This wasn't like a ligament or meniscus tear. Cartilage doesn't grow back (at least in 2016 - people are working on it) and can't be effectively repaired. Microfracture surgery simply isn't a long term fix -- it's basically putting a duct tape on the hole of a flat bike tire tube -- a poor mans temporary fix. So he may get 6 months of hard play out of that knee or six years. Nobody really knows. And it's unclear how long he will be the same precision athlete once the knee starts taking hits at the NFL level. It's totally a gamble with high upside but significant downside. And that's why he's still risky at the top of the second round. I think I would pass on him at that point too. the Jaguars already nailed their playmaker so they could afford a throw away pick with high upside. But I can't fault ozzie on this one, even if Jack pans out.

I probably would have held off on the WRs and RB in favor of additional defensive pieces, but I get it -- these guys are playmakers. I also don't hate the idea of another guy who can open the top off defenses in case Perriman doesn't pan out. I think a few teams reached for CB early even when they weren't the best players available and in total are being graded as having poor draft days even though they filled an immediate need. We stuck to our draft board and came away with some big pieces of the puzzle. Yes we ended up with a CB lower in the draft than a lot of us hoped and an ILB never made it to the top of our board. But in total I think we are going to look back at this draft as a big reloading of defense.

Expect them to line up a bunch of UDFAs to compete at that position. Or they could trade back into the 7th if there's someone they still like available, like they did for Camp. there will also be guys cut after the draft so we may snag one of those. Having just one hole after the draft isn't such a big deal.

Clearly the Ravens have him poorly graded on their board that they wouldn't take a flier on him with the last pick. Probably didn't check out medically.

All you guys calling for WR, I think you are actually voting for players we would need to stow on the PS/IR. Right now we have a dozen WRs on the roster, headed by SSS, Wallace, Perriman and Aiken. Nobody left is going to get on the field if these guys are healthy. We also have a bunch of good TE (headed by Watson, Gilmore, M Williams, and Pitta), and a pass catching FB (Juice). I just don't see anyone else making it onto the field. we need CB and ILB depth/upgrades. Everyone else we draft is PS material.

And he still has 8 picks to work with. If he can come away with a corner and ILB who will make the team he has reloaded pretty nicely. i don't know why WR is listed as a "need" on the PFT and others lists though. If someone good falls to us, sure, but right now it looks pretty crowded with SSSr, Perriman, Wallace, Aiken, Camp, Matthews, M Brown, Hunter, D Brown, Jacobs, Clay and (if he's not a TE) Waller. Anyone we draft is going to need to be stowed on the PS because it would be tough to make the field behind the first 4.

Jack is deemed too much of a health risk, and Spence and Tunsil were deemed untouchable for character reasons. We got three guys who play hard and have no real character issues and they also happen to be at positions of need. There's still a lot of talent on the board. If we can find a sleeper or two in our next 8 picks, ideally a corner, it was a decent draft. What we didn't do, and I think is most upsetting some people is come away with flashy playmakers. Bosa, Ramsey both would have fit that bill, but it wasn't to be. We instead came away with guys with good motors who will bring their lunch pail to work and grind it out. I think there are some playmakers still out there in the fourth, and it will be interesting to see how we use all those picks. I hope we use the tradable sixth to try and move the fifth up a few spots if there's anyone worthy. I also hope Ozzie keeps stockpiling defensive players because frankly it will be tough for a late round TE, RB or WR to make the team behind the guys we already have and recently signed at all those positions already.

Knee cartilage doesn't grow back. They can do microfracturing and it sometimes helps (basically a short term bandaid) but it's totally a guess if you get six months out of him or six years. I don't fault any of the teams who opted to use their picks elsewhere, and frankly picking up an extra fifth might be worth a lot more.

With five picks in the fourth a fifth and two sixths we are still likely to find a sleeper impact player or two. Heck we often find one after the draft.

I'd say is premature to grade a draft when we still have 8 picks to use. At least we didn't trade up to the second round for a kicker like TB.

I was excited when we drafted Mount Cody, Elam, Arthur Brown, Mark Clayton so I feel like many of the guys that sound like home runs on paper aren't worth the hype. I also thought it insane to draft a Harvard FB so early but Juice panned out. The hidden gems are where the scouts earn their keeps, so I think it's too early to say whether we struck out so far.

They obviously avoided him for the same character reasons they passed on Tunsil.

Every team passed on him 5-6 times...

Chill guys. DeCosta said weeks ago the success is going to be determined by how they draft in the fourth round in this defensively deep draft. Well, they now have five picks in that round, more than enough to fill the remaining needs. They stayed away from someone with a "time bomb" knee and a few guys with character issues, and got guys high on their boards. Some of the best players in the NFL are found in the middle rounds every year and they only need to strike gold on a couple.