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    11 hours ago, AnthonyGames said:

    I think it's funny every single person seemingly was saying Lewis at LG. He has the same size as Wagner but more athletic. He looks like the perfect guy to play RT. He really only played guard because we had Wagner and Stanley, and he was the best other option at guard.

    I love Stanley and Lewis at tackle, and Yanda at RG, obviously. I think Siragusa will be the perfect guy to play LG; he's the big body, road grater type. He specializes in run blocking, and that's what we need. I really want to see what Urschel can do at center! I like Urschel better at center and Jensen at guard. Jensen will provide solid depth at the guard or center spots.

     

     

     

     

    Urschel at a solid 295 vs. Jensen now @ 325....Don't think Urschel has the mass to hold the pocket open!

     

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    On ‎4‎/‎22‎/‎2017 at 10:36 PM, Halshayeji said:

    Your definitely not the only one. We would like to upgrade at WR, CB, and Pass rush. We need two more starters on the Oline! and some quality depth considering Ducass beat out Jensen, Hurst, and Urschel...

    i don't think the draft alone addresses those needs

    The only thing Ducasse proved to me was Juan and Harbs struggled with who was the best player for the position and flat-out ignored what the tape showed. 

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    On ‎4‎/‎6‎/‎2017 at 11:32 AM, rmcjacket23 said:

    1. No, its irrelevant to YOU, because you fail to comprehend why its so important

    2. That makes no sense. Again, if we know we have zero interest in him being our Center next year (which its clear we didn't), then we gain nothing by hanging on to him. Even if we never sign or draft anybody, he's still a goner. Delaying benefits the Ravens in no possible way.

    3. Ignoring the hilariousness of anybody thinking the Pro Bowl is an indication of how good a player is, Gino was here just two years ago. So saying that Zuttah is the best Center we've had in a whopping 2-3 years, considering how bad Gino was, is pretty comical.

    There's a difference between being a good Center and being a Center that is better than Gino. You're correct that the latter is accurate, but literally nobody that watched Zuttah play this past year thought that he played well. The Baltimore Ravens certainly didn't, since he's no longer here.

    If you think we're getting a better offer AFTER the draft, you're delusional. All the draft does, by definition, is reduce the market for veterans that aren't signed at that time.

    The other reality is the fact that both Jensen and Urschel will be unrestricted Free Agents next year, barring Urschel not getting his accredited year this year (only if he's pushed back to the PS, which for many reasons, I don't see happening at all).  The Ravens are going to need to draft to prepare for this reality.  I doubt they are able to or want to keep both (depends upon who wins the job, if one does, and how they perform)

    I think Mangold's situation is related to questions about his physical condition.  If the Ravens offered him a deal that included an injury waiver, he may have balked at it.  I think the Ravens would be remiss for not asking for that contingency, as he is aging and has suffered decline in his game over the past two seasons. 

    I don't think Mangold is going to be our option, right now.

    I think the Ravens will let Jensen and Urschel battle this out for the starting job.  If they are concerned that neither fit the bill during camp, then I think you see them pursue a veteran and those two remain as depth for C/G going forward. 

    I personally don't see the benefit of pursuing a higher round draft pick for the C position this year.  I can see the sense in grabbing one in the 5-7 round to develop this year.  I think we have glaring needs in the secondary, and we need a solid pass rusher.  We need another solid receiver, and some additional depth at OLB.  We will need to draft a RT as well, if the plan is to leave A. Lewis inside.   I would take a RT in the 3rd or 4th round if that is so.

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    15 minutes ago, rmcjacket23 said:

    The issue I see is that he wasn't even the backup Center this season, nor did he do anything to overtake somebody like Zuttah who didn't play that well.

    I've seen nothing to suggest he's even being considered as an option at Center. I think at best he's competing for a reserve Guard spot.

    Interesting.  I've seen something that more than suggests it.  Harbs has mentioned it:

    http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/ravens/bs-sp-ravens-owners-meetings-0329-20170328-story.html

     

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    6 hours ago, Halshayeji said:

    I agree 100 percent with your second paragraph. But your first paragraph breaks my heart....

    KO was a great raven! He hurt his back once and missed 9 games. He's never missed more than 2 games every other season that he didn't get a disc in his back. He's no more or less injury prone than Jensen or urschel. As far as his play, he was light years better than those two. It's not even fair to put Jensen, urschel, and KO in the same sentance.

    It really hurts me when fans just go overboard the minute a player leaves Baltimore forgetting all the good times and plays he made.

    you can regret him leaving or hate that he left and that's debateable because in hindsight we also got a 3rd round comp in return. What you can't do is deny how great he was as a Raven...

    KO was a great Raven.  Jensen had a broken foot that cost him his rookie campaign and a concussion that sidelined him for a week during preseason.  John also had a concussion and a leg injury as well.  It's tough in the trenches! 

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    1 hour ago, rmcjacket23 said:

    Would point out that Jensen is going into year 5 in the league, so he's not exactly young by NFL standards.

    I agree that players obviously improve, but I don't think you're seeing very many examples of guys who are average to below average for the first 3-4 years and then take a major step forward.

    He's 25 going on 26.  Young enough. 

    Remember also that he missed his entire first season due to a Jones fracture of his left foot.  He got spotty play his second year, as illness moved him down to PS after being cut (Apnea). Fought his way back to the 53 by the end of the year.

     I think this is his year and I hope he takes advantage of the opportunity.  Last year they monkeyed around with him as far as position.  I think Center is where he'll do work.

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    15 hours ago, b93333 said:

    Urschel comparable to KO??? Do you really believe that?

    KO is a physical freak.  John by no means is in that category.  John is fairly tough, but he doesn't seem to have the killer instinct.  He's an intelligent football player, but if his technique is a little off, he gets outmatched physically on pass pro.  He's not bad at run blocking, but he's not even close to KO's caliber in that department. 

    Jensen IS nasty at the point of attack.  He's a good run blocker, and is always looking for that second level block.  He has quick hands and placing him at center will play to his strengths.  His opponent is going to be lined up closer to him where his hand speed will help him win battles up front.  He's heavier in the legs and arms than John, and he'll be able to anchor better than Zuttah.  I think that's the key for Joey.  We've got to keep the center of that pocket out of his face.  I've not seen Skura in action so I don't feel I could formulate an opinion on him.

    There has been a lot of saltiness over the prospect of John and Ryan starting.  Lots of folks want the shiny new guy to show up and save our O-line.  There is the sentiment that "they didn't start last year, so they're not good enough to start this year.  I don't think a green player out of the draft is necessarily the answer. 

    I say let John, Ryan, and Matt battle it out.  May the best man win.  Saying that a player cannot improve over last year, especially three guys as young as they really  is pessimistic at best. 

    We should pick up a C/G in the draft for development.  I wouldn't burn a high round pick on one, though. 

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    25 minutes ago, trevorsteadman said:

    From what the front office has said it sounds like the Ravens want to be a downhill, big bruising, running team. Which means the team needs a bigger RT and C who can actually push forward. And it makes sense the Ravens have West and Dixon who are able to break tackles and push piles. The team needs more of those 4-5 yard runs on first down. Too many 3rd and longs last year.

    I can see Jensen fitting into that scheme when he's 317-320.  I am not sure Urschel will fit into that mold.  Mangold is not what he used to be physically, but that's understandable.  Jensen is an excellent run blocker.  If anything when he was playing guard, he would get to the gap a little too quickly looking to get downfield and  block at the second level.  His problem is definitely not aggression.  He finishes blocks with attitude.  You don't see him jogging behind plays....he's up field looking to do damage.  I like his potential.  I think Roman will like it as well.

    He and TJ Lang had the same OL coach in college (Symington).  I think he's an underrated player and I think he'll give any rookie and/or Urschel a run for their money during camp. 

    Man vs. Man.  May the best man win.

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    9 minutes ago, trevorsteadman said:

    There is still another free agency period that hasn't started yet..............

    And with the lack of C options out there for others looking.........Jensen is still an RFA........Bills are going to be shopping.  Jensen's versatility may land him someplace they are looking for a G/C.  Seattle comes to mind.  Green Bay as well......

    John Urschel may end up with the job. 

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    2 hours ago, January J said:

    Mangold or flowers wouldn't cost us a compensatory pick. I think they are our best bet and would be great additions. I just can't wait to get the notification asayin zuttah has been released lol

    I really think Mangold would have come off the boards by now.  There are some from NY saying his performance wasn't all that great the last couple of years.  I don't think we need to pump out cash to a veteran past his prime.  Zuttah probably won't be released until June.  Ravens don't want the cap hit and they've nothing to lose keeping him until then. 

    Green Bay is going be on the prowl for a C and a Guard now with Tretter and Lang signing elsewhere.....If we're going to strike, now is the time for a FA guard/center.

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    1 hour ago, bigcatfrank1 said:

    Hurst is a solid LT and OL back-up and 2nd line player. He is not the starting RT that the Ravens will need, however Nembot could be.

    With Wagner on the move, I still think the Ravens should cut ties with Zuttah.
    A stronger Center will help this team tremendously.
    Get the best Rookie Center available in the draft, ( Elflien) sandwich him between Yanda and Lewis with the 2 big guys Stanley and Nembot on the outside I think the Ravens have a great O-line. If the Rookie has trouble you have Jensen and Urschel who need to be ready to step in and take the job.

     

    Not gonna pay Jensen 1.8 to be a back-up.  Draft a Center in the 5th or 6th.  See if the rook can beat him out.  I wouldn't draft a C high in the draft.  We need a corner or a WR with our first pick. 

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