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Christian McCaffrey has received a draft guarantee from a team presently selecting in the teens, according to reports from various media outlets. Might apply here lol.

This is a consideration I was happier not thinking about. I don't want Ross for us, but I hate the prospect of him actually succeeding in the pros for one of our opponents, namely the Bengals (paired with Green) or Steelers (paired with Brown). Hell, if Josh Gordon ever gets reinstated, Browns would have a deadly fast trio at WR with Gordon, Ross, and Coleman. Thankfully they don't have a good QB. I'd hate it if the Bengals drafted OJ Howard. They'd have the best TE tandem in the league (when healthy). And as already mentioned, Bengals getting Hooker would concern me quite a bit, although I doubt he falls that far.

Perriman and Moore are the only WRs on this roster with contracts that extend beyond 2017, and neither of them have proven anything so far (except that they have terrible drop rates). Given this, we could stand to draft multiple WRs and/or acquire several WRs in free-agency, since there isn't a single WR on this roster proven to be a part of the future of this team.

Good lord, trade for someone with a Madden Curse looming over him? I'd call for Ozzie's head myself

They'd be selling low on a player who could still potentially be good, as unlikely as that is, so I guess I would be against it unless someone gave us more compensation than he's worth. That said, Maxx doesn't have the quickness to separate from defenders. He might be a good blocking TE if last year was any indication, but he is kind of a disappointment thus far, so I wouldn't be that upset if he was traded. Also, where is all of this Gronk trade speculation coming from lol. Zero chance we're the ones making that trade, as unlikely as it is that is ever happens in the first place.

I'm kind of late to the party here, but I look at rebuilding as the thing that comes after a championship push. First you push for a championship by trading future assets (draft picks, young players) for veterans who can help now, back-loading contracts with guaranteed money/signing bonuses, and possibly building around a veteran QB for one last-ditch effort before he retires or hits FA. The rebuild begins once the championship push is over and the salary cap becomes a problem: you cut overpaid veterans, clear cap space for the future, and field a subpar roster so that you can tank and get high draft picks. Then, a few years later, you build around a young core and push for another championship, thus continuing the cycle. Given this definition, the Ravens rarely do a committed rebuild. Probably the closest we came was back in 2002, when we lost several veterans due to the big push for a repeat in 2001.

Jeremiah has a pretty good track record in guessing our picks (pretty sure he got both Stanley and Mosley correct in his final mocks). I really hope he's wrong in this instance... We really don't need to spend a first round pick on a non-rush LB, especially one who was slow to learn the game in college, only has one season of production, and was free to make plays thanks to the immense talent on Bama's DL.

We rarely show public interest in our mid and late round picks, so... I guess you could look at that as a good thing, considering many project him as a 3rd round pick. I would love a trade down in this draft, but like others have said, I'd rather have more picks in this draft. That said, you have to assume that 2018 pick is going to be damn close to the top of the round, considering the 49ers are virtually devoid of talent. Also, if we're trading down 18 spots into the 2nd, you'd have to give up way more than what that trade is proposing. In addition to the obvious drop in talent, you have to keep in mind first round picks have a 5th year option, which non-first round contracts don't have. This makes first rounders intrinsically more valuable, especially when using the arbitrary Jimmy Johnson chart for pick value. A couple of mid rounders and a 2nd rounder next year isn't going to cut it.

Cam Robinson, if drafted to be a RT, would disappoint me, considering I think Alex Lewis is a better RT than LG (so we'd essentially be addressing the hole at LG by forcing a RT to play out of position at LG). If our FO thinks Robinson can be the next KO at LG, then I'll support it. However, in either case, I'd prefer to trade down and select whoever falls between Robinson or Lamp. I certainly recognize the need for OL talent, and I have no problems with drafting OL in the first, but I don't like the value at #16 overall. Reuben Foster would disappoint me greatly. He's a 1-year wonder, struggled with the mental game early in his career (tells me he's a slow learner), had a beastly front line at Alabama that left him free to make plays, and plays a position with less of an impact on the game (at least compared to WR or EDGE, which we need more). Plus, it seems like we usually find good value at ILB in later rounds or UDFA, so ILB is not worth a high pick to me to begin with. I'd rather let Correa or Onwuasor try to try to pry the other starting ILB job from some veteran stop-gap (Daryl Smith is a FA... but I hope it doesn't come to that lol). John Ross would give me pause just based on his health, small frame, and poor fit for Joe's accuracy woes, but that speed and quickness would certainly entice me. It's a pick that would both worry and excite me lol. I'd much rather Ozzie trade down and let him fall to us if we're going to draft him. I feel like I shouldn't even have to entertain the thought of Peppers at #16, considering he's a box safety with below-average coverage skills, so it's needless to say drafting him at #16 would really hurt me to watch. He should really be a day 2 pick if you take media hype out of the equation. Haason Reddick reminds me too much of Correa. He's a real project, and he's too lightweight to play on the line every down. Save project players for later. I'll look on the bright side, support whoever we draft, and hope they prove me wrong, but i'll be initially crestfallen if we draft one of these players.

I don't think he's there in the 3rd round though. His measurables are too enticing; someone is going to draft him in the second based on that alone. I saw him compared to Pierre-Paul, which I think is a good comparison strictly from the raw, small-school, freak athlete standpoint.

If he's there in the 2nd, I'll pound the table with you. Although there is certainly some bust potential given how raw he is, he fits a huge need, and the upside is certainly there, given his physical talent. I really hope we don't enter 2017 with only Urban and Kaufusi at 5-tech...

I agree that having a good OL and run game are important things, and I agree that we should address our OL holes. However, I think it's a poor decision to address this issue with the 16th overall pick by drafting a RT, since then you're basically drafting a second RT and forcing one of them to play out of position at LG, essentially addressing the hole at LG by filling it with a RT who will most likely perform about average at the position--not good value for a first-round pick. Instead, they should try to find a true LG and/or C in the mid-rounds where you'll find better value and a better fit for the position. Now, if you want to make the argument that we could/should draft Lamp at #16 because we need a LG and C (two positions he is projected to be able to play), then I'd be a little more open.

Walt and Charlie have been projecting us to take Cam for like a solid month now (though they're far from the only ones to slot us a RT). I want the draft to happen already just so I can stop seeing these RT draft predictions for us lol. It seems like the lazy thinking is "omg, the Ravens lost Wagner, now they need a RT!" when Alex Lewis does not have the leverage or power to be a good guard, but he does have the physical attributes and experience to be a good tackle. Seems to me Lewis has always been the future Wagner replacement; he just happened to be the best LG on the roster last year too. I would only want Cam Robinson if they're sure he can be a pro-bowler at LG; otherwise, picking an offensive lineman that high isn't worth it imo. If you're drafting Cam Robinson to play RT, then what you're actually doing is filling a hole at LG with an average player with the 16th overall pick.

Zay Jones will be the best WR from this draft class. *pounds table* -And Malachi Dupre will be a good starter *pounds table less violently*

I've updated it based on what walterfootball has reported, but if there's anyone else you think should be on the list, let me know. One name I like seeing is Kpassagnon. I loved what I saw out of him at the Senior Bowl. We really need to come away from this draft with a 5-tech, someone to compete with Kaufusi and Urban, and he possesses a lot of upside. Plus he seems kind of like a typical Raven pick as someone from a smaller school.

Perriman's performance thus far actually puts extra onus on drafting a WR, if we're being honest here. There isn't a single person on this roster who would make me think twice before drafting a receiver in any round. Whether or not there is a WR worth taking when our first round pick comes around is a different matter, however.

I'm kind of disappointed. I was hoping to see Jernigan play the way he did to start 2016 throughout an entire season, which I think he will do now that he's got the added motivation of being in a contract year. You'd be getting the best of Jernigan all while netting a decent compensatory pick down the line. However, I acknowledge that it's possible he plays like he did at the end of 2016 and generates little FA interest in 2018. I just think keeping Jernigan would have been worth the risk, given the potential reward, but I can understand why others think otherwise.

I don't really like your comparisons tbh. Perriman has a clear height and size advantage on Ross, which showed at times when he would win more 50/50 balls. Ross's drops don't even compare to how bad Perriman's were imo. Plus Perriman never seemed to play at a speed that gave me the impression he had 4.2 speed, whereas Ross's 40-time confirms what I already saw on the field. The knee injuries were never a concern for Perriman, at least not pre-draft, whereas Ross has very worrisome knee concerns. Cooks struck me as a stronger player, which showed when it came to fighting for contested balls, whereas Ross is more about getting open and avoiding catches in traffic (more of a finesse player). I get the height and quickness comparisons, but I just don't agree with the comparison overall (and you're hardly the first to compare Ross to Cooks). Maybe it's my analysis of Cooks that differs from everyone else--I always thought he was a stronger, feistier receiver at Oregon St. in addition to being able to get open with his quickness. I'd compare Ross more to Tavon Austin. Both are small, quick, get open, avoid contact, can turn any catch into a TD, and possess return skills. I, personally, wouldn't want Ross at 16, considering his durability concerns and how Flacco kind of under-utilizes quicker WRs like Ross due to his poor accuracy, but I wouldn't be totally bummed-out like I would if we drafted Foster or one of the underwhelming RT prospects because Ross is actually a playmaker. Sure, a bigger WR who can win those jump-balls that Flacco loves to throw would be preferable, but we need multiple receivers anyway. I'm not sold on any of the WRs currently on the roster being re-signed when their respective contracts expire, so in looking at the long-term, I see a spot for Ross on this roster even if drafting him still means we need a big possession receiver.

Definitely agree with the second part. I remember Castillo working out Myers, as an example. Pretty sure they also worked out Gradkowski. (neither of those two turned out very well for us either lol) In the end, these meetings (the ones that are known) only have the value that you assign them. I guess my only real takeaway is that, if the Ravens haven't met a given first-round prospect whatsoever, then the likelihood of us drafting them decreases to a degree. thank you

Ok, I lol'd

So I'm noticing that RT is a popular selection with our #16 overall pick, whether it's ESPN, Walterfootball, or some other mock draft pundit projecting Cam Robinson, Bolles, or Ramczyk. Am I the only one who thinks this is a lazy projection? Ever since we drafted Alex Lewis, I always saw him as the projected RT of the future, considering we knew even last draft that Wagner was an inevitable FA loss. It seemed more like Lewis played LG out of necessity due to the dearth of Guard talent on this team. For reference, Lewis played OT in college, he played OT in training camp (and LG, of course), and he even played some OT out of necessity when Stanley was out. Plus his height-related struggles with getting leverage in the ground game always made him a less-appealing guard prospect in my eyes. So, while I do see where Alex Lewis could play LG in the future, it seems like drafting a LG (and obviously a C) should be a higher priority than drafting a RT, since that should be Lewis's ideal position. Thoughts? Also, I am pretty out of the loop with the draft and this forum due to being busy lately, but I have been lurking a bit and catching up when I can. Hi everyone.

I like (or should I say liked) this forum quite a bit, especially the draft talk subsection. Very disappointed to read that it's being discontinued. I loathe social media, since it seems full of trolls, unintelligent opinions, and emojis, so that mode of discourse is a very unappealing alternative. However, this forum disappearing is not the end of the world. There are plenty of other forums out there that are pretty good. Unfortunately, I can't name them, otherwise my post will likely be deleted, as has happened in the past. Nevertheless, the existence of other good forums isn't going to make me altogether forget about the good conversations I've had on this forum in the past. Going to miss some of the posters here.

Logged on just to say how disappointed I am to read this. I may not post here a whole lot these days, but when I have more free time I do usually visit the forums. I don't use social media, so this is one of the few places I actually converse with other fans. Guess I'll have to rely on other forums and/or find new ones. Shame.

Mike McCoy falls under the "too good to hire" category. If McCoy does too well, he's a HC again, possibly even with the Ravens, which obviously threatens Harbaugh's job security. Can't hire him. I don't think Rick Dennison falls into that category, but he's not technically available anyway, at least not until the Broncos' next HC makes a decision on his coordinators.

Harbaugh's insistence on sticking with his guys reminds me of Billick sticking with Boller to the bitter end.