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I'm happy /w Bowser. Raw, but lots of upside

Happy to see Cook taken before our pick

Nooo, don't give Cincy more picks

Welp, at least Zay Jones isn't going to a division rival

He looked like he was really spaced out lol.

I've got my mini-big board ready Zay Jones (reminds me of Deandre Hopkins)Forrest Lamp (probably unrealistic to fall)Melifonwu (probably going to the Seahawks, but if not, he's an intriguing H/W/S prospect)Tanoh Kpassagnon (5T DE who needs development, but has a high ceiling)Tim Williams (Could be a great DPR or a drug suspension bust)Budda Baker (undersized FS)JuJu Smith-Schuster (Boldin clone)Tyus Bowser (ideal rush-LB, needs development, high ceiling)Carl Lawson (ideal rush-LB with first round talent and extensive injury problems)Malachi Dupre (I think he's very underrated due to LSU's OC and QB problems, guy gets open and makes tough catches)Zach Cunningham (ILB who excels in pass coverage but is a bit lightweight to take on blockers)Jordan Willis (undersized DPR)Cam Robinson (if they see him as a LG, an ok pick)Ahkello Witherspoon (good corner with great length)Sidney Jones (first-round corner before achilles tear)Kareem Hunt (love his balance and ability to get yards after contact, reminds me of Dixon tbh)Cooper Kupp (white guy slot receiver with some size)Pat Elflein (fits our blocking scheme more than Pocic, and we need a C)I really don't want Wormley unless it's day 3, but he's projected round 2 in many drafts... He's the type of underwhelming high-character guy we're stuck on drafting lately. Also don't want Mixon or Dalvin Cook for character reasons. McDowell I've decided I don't want based on character unless it's late.

Pretty sure Charlie Campbell had him #10 on his big board.

Yeah, that's a good point. The athleticism is enticing, but he just seems like someone who doesn't care. Harbaugh got rid of Jernigan for less. If it's in the 3rd, I honestly wouldn't be mad. It's overkill, but the value is too good. Jimmy, Humphrey, Young, Jones, Carr: the depth for 2017 would be unreal. He probably won't be there anyway, but it's funny to think about.

Anyone have some players they absolutely don't want? There's some easy ones with character or injury issues, but I'm more talking about talent-wise. The list of do-wants is easier to make imo.

I'm probably going to be called crazy for saying this, but he reminds me of Deandre Hopkins. Really the only knocks on him are that he isn't a vertical threat and he didn't run a complex route tree in college.

In the presser, Oz alludes to the fact that he expected Foster and Allen to be available at pick #16. It suggests that teams knew those players were going to tumble. Our FO was not the only one bearish on their potential, as is quite apparent. Anyway, I'm fine with the Humphrey pick; the value was adequate. Doesn't fill the biggest immediate need, but it would have been a position we needed to address in the future, considering Carr is turning 31 and has been in decline the past couple seasons. I would rather have had OJ Howard or traded down, but I'm glad we dodged Foster and Cam Robinson. Here's hoping he develops into a solid outside corner.

Players I want: I've been really high on Zay Jones, ranking him among Ross and Davis and ahead of Williams. He's the player I want more than anyone else for day 2. Sidney Jones would be a good value pick, although I seriously doubt we go back to back at CB lol. Lamp is unrealistic to fall, but a no-brainer pick if he's there. Cam Robinson would be a fine round 2 pick if we don't trade up and if they consider him a LG. Malik McDowell would be an ideal 5-tech and likely an upgrade over Urban and Kaufusi, although he's going to have motivation problems, and he needs a lot of coaching. Typical boom/bust prospect. I'm really high on Kpassagnon, since he seemed to be a monster for OL to handle when I watched him at the Senior Bowl, he's physically impressive, and he's an ideal 5-tech, which we are very thin at with Urban and Kaufusi. He's probably more of a late 2nd rounder/early 3rd rounder though. Tyus Bowser is an intriguing rush LB prospect, although I can't say I know much about him because I've never watched him. I'm intrigued by Tim Williams, but I am very put-off by his failed drug tests. I'll trust in Ozzie's Bama connections if they end up going that route. ----- As for the Humphrey pick, I was pretty neutral when we picked him. The value is appropriate: physically he's an ideal outside corner, he has a high ceiling, and he was durable in college (knock on wood that he stays that way). I was relieved that we passed on Foster and Robinson, but I was disappointed we passed on OJ Howard, whom I viewed as a top-10 prospect. Some critics say that it doesn't fill a need, which may be true for 2017, but I don't think Brandon Carr is someone you can project as a starting outside corner for years to come, considering he has declined over the past couple years, and he's only getting older (about to turn 31). They are bringing Humphrey into a good situation where he doesn't need to start right away (if everyone comes out of TC healthy), so I like it for that reason. It's a fine pick.

After seeing Kiper and McShay's mocks today, I'm about ready to toss them aside as anything more than click-bait lol. I appreciate the input.

Bucky Brooks tends to always make a few glaringly dumb picks in his drafts from my observations over the years.

This seems like a tough draft to predict our pick, made tougher by the fact that I think there's about a 50% chance we trade down. I'm going to lean Cam Robinson. This is based on our reported interest from Pauline and Campbell, the need for a LG, Robinson's capability to play LG, the Ravens' desire to build an elite Cowboys-like OL as suggested by Matt Miller, and the Ozzie-Bama favoritism. Plus it's a reach, so he's likely to be available at #16. I hope I'm wrong, but it all reminds me of the Mosley pick where everything just seemed to line up way ahead of the draft.

So just to summarize various rumors I've heard.. Matt Miller from BR says we're leaning pass-rusher in the first; OL in the later rounds A Rumor by Matt Miller suggests Ozzie wants to build an elite OL like the Cowboys. Charlie Campbell has projected us to take RT/LG (probably LG) Cam Robinson for like a month now because our scouts were supposedly very interested in him (quite possible, given the Bama connection) Tony Pauline is saying we're very interested in Cam Robinson, although EDGE Takk McKinley is also an interest in a trade-down scenario. LG/C Forest Lamp's agent made an ominous tweet about being drafted by the Ravens. Again, a pretty meaningless rumor. Also some guy named Chad Forbes at "Draft Bites" said one of our OL coaches really liked Lamp. Hensley slotted us Lamp in some recent ESPN mock where they ask all of the local reporters to make picks. Jeff Zrebiec‏: "If Reddick or Foster falls, I say one of them. If both are gone, I think they'll choose between Corey Davis and Forrest Lamp." Aaron Wilson: "Ravens have considerable interest in Western Michigan WR Corey Davis, per league sources, one of their stronger options at current slot." WR Corey Davis also made a tweet about he and the Ravens having a good interview at his private meeting, for whatever that's worth (very little).

I guess there's nothing really positive about Correa to preclude us from drafting someone in the same mold anyway. I wouldn't be totally upset with Reddick for the upside.

http://www.espn.com/nfl/draft2017/insider/story/_/id/19233844/todd-mcshay-2017-nfl-draft-buzz-everything-hearing An article from McShay regarding rumors he's heard.

I might actually want Robinson now, given the other option lol. Takk may have a good motor, but he's so raw. I only want him if he's a 2nd round pick; first round is too high for someone who requires so much development. Chance Warmack, DJ Fluker, Barrett Jones, and the Kouandjio brothers aren't really good names to follow lol.

I'm not seeing where Peppers is a poor tackler tbh. His coverage opportunities and plays in coverage were lacking, but he's nothing like Elam as a tackler. For what it's worth, Landon Collins was a pure box safety at Alabama before becoming a pretty decent all-around safety for the Giants, at least if he continues his progression, so it's not like coverage skills can't be learned. I'm strongly against Peppers at #16, but round 2 would be fine with me.

#16 is way too early to take a project LB who is too light to play the line every down. That's basically what we have already with Correa. Ideally he goes to a 4-3 team where he can play will-backer and then rush the passer on obvious passing downs.

In Sandusky's tweet at the bottom, he doesn't really explain why it can't be Ravens/Browns and Steelers/Bengals to end the season...

There seem to be several users on this forum high on Elflein, which surprises me a bit because other forums I use are less-high on him, putting him even with or below Pocic

If you have any curiosity regarding where oddsmakers have various over/unders for players, schools, position groups: http://www.oddsshark.com/nfl/nfl-draft-betting-props Vegas also has their official odds on some other things (not listed in that article)

NFL Network isn't even watchable unless they're rebroadcasting a noteworthy game or doing one of their player or coach biographies. I've never gone to them for actual news or opinion on current events in football.