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The thing that irritates me is that they say one thing but do another. The run game wasn't bad first half, they seem to not give it time to develop. We weren't being outscored and we weren't pressed for time. It was still early in the game. You have have to be misleading sometimes. If they stop the run, keep running the ball. Throw in a PA which we all know Flacco thrives in and that will catch the def off gaurd. Now they have to resepct the pass. They wont stack the box as much and that will allow the run game to open up. It's a chess match. I felt that they we're trying to force chemistry between Joe and Kamar ALL GAME! That's not how it works. Once we stop doing that and mixed the play calling up, we scored. Karmar had a target, Marlon, the TE's, Justin and Buck had a couple run plays. That's what led to our TD. We even ran PA which we rarely saw ALL SEASON! Trestman has to stop this testing crap out and do what we're good at. Running the ball and Play Action. That's what we're good at. That's what lead flacco to a awesome year last yr, forsett in the pro bowl....big numbers for or WR's. It's the bears offense all over again. High volume passes to the RB's, TE barley getting the ball....one receiver getting all the targets. No No NO NO. That's not Raven football. Run the ball and not just lining up in the I-form. Mix these running plays up....we have shifty guys. Run the PA, screen passes. Get creative out their to catch these teams off guard. You make it easy for teams when you pass, pass, run, kick. Run, run, pass, kick. pass pass run kick, run run pass kick. That's what it's become.

Some of yall doesn't make any sense and are very very spoiled. This is the Nfl. Not some peewee football league. It's tough to win any games in the NFL, doesn't matter what team you plag against. For us to have a winning org is a blessing. Stand behind the Ravens and stop crying like babies. Yeah we're 2-6 but at least our team isn't folding. They want to make a run and make history. I'm hearing firing coach harbs, new scouts and all types of crap. Sometimes things like this happens. You think Ozzie or Steve doesn't believe in harbs?! You think the players done?! That's not the case. The problem is we're just falling short. How many of those games we lost were wins but the def just didn't get off the field? How man games we lost was because of the o-line protecting? You can just release all the players and start fresh. Same with personal. It's hard to come by GOOD coaching and harbs is that. Stop complaining and stand behind them. We could sneak into the playoffs and that could be the boost to cause us to win another SB. Then you all be all excited and screaming my ravens but where were you in these times. We have time to get it right and if we don't we have next year. At lease we're not a org that hasn't seen a winning season in years! SMH. Go Ravens and cheers to the fans that understand where I'm coming from.

We are the Ravens and we do not give in. We Dont Tank! We fight with every ounce in our body. That's what we do. I can't see us losing and not playing our best football. If you don't want to feed into winning spirit, theirs no place for the players OR fans! I believe we can win out. That's all it takes is for each player and fan to believe it can happen. Speak it into existence. Magic does happen in the NFL. Just look at our SB win! Lets get pumped and get ready for some Ravens football after this bye because I'm expecting fire to torch the rest of the games we'll play in. Don't give in! It's raining now but the sun is still shinning behind those clouds. So lets whether this storm, kick through the clouds and receive what the sun has to offer and that's victory. Lets Go Ravens fans! Ravens on 3....1..2..3...RAVENS!

if we keep up the route we going with not being able to stack up wins, we'll have a top draft pick to draft a big-bodied receiver. Not sure who would be the best candidate but....we shall see.

what does that do for us now....? smh

We have Lorenzo for the smash mouth plays. He's just dealing with injuries right now. I love Forsett/Allen combo that we're giving these teams. Allen is an absolute beast and he WILL become the featured back when it's all said and done. With Forsett/Allen and a healthy Lorenzo, or run game can really thrive if the o-line continues to open up holes.

That's Trestmans offense which we should've known was going to happen. Every time flacco throws over 35 attempts we loose. You're right! We need to get back to playing smash mouth football. Running the ball and for goodness sake run some PLAY ACTION! Did they forget how effective Flacco was running playaction?! It's rarely done now. I was sold on Trestman in the beginning of the season but now he's nothing like Kubiak. Too many passes to RB/FB. Seems like every play is a pass to Kyle. We should've opted and went after Kyle Shannonhan. He has Atlanta pass game/run game rocking. Oh well. It will be another year we'll be looking for a new OC.

Why is Joe throwing inaccurate passes? Has our line been playing at a high level in the passing game? No it hasn't. You can't expect pinpoint passes when you're not comfortable in the pocket. Joe doesn't look comfortable in the pocket to me. Especially last game. The Cards pass rush was insane. This just isn't on Joe or the receivers. Our o-line needs to step up as well. Monroe can't stay on the field to save his life and we're giving up petty penalties to set drives back. This is a TEAM problem. Just not one person.

maybe JH exaggerated on the amount of time the play was stopped but it was long enough to where a whistle should've been blown dead. everyone stopped the play, even CJ didn't move. he wasn't fighting for extra yardage and that was clear. JH is right if someone would have hit him the way he was we would've gotten flagged for it....to many times the game has been altered because of bad calls. who knows, that ineligible call could have given us a TD if that wasnt called.....NFL need to do something about the officiating because in almost every game not just the ravens it's been really really bad

The players you mentioned aren't bad players. Their all really good players. You don't need a team full of legends to win football games. We only lost two legends and that was Ed and Ray. The problem we're having is the lack of cohesiveness on the back in and the pass rush not happening like it should. Our DB's arent that good to hold up to allow the pass rush to get to the QB. This is the reason why Suggs is soooo missed because Doom is getting doubled on every down he plays. We get the pass rush going and that will take some slack off our DB's. Collectively we're not playing well. We've been in every game. The defense is what lost us the majority of all the games we played thus far. We'll be fine though. I think we can still turn it around but it has to start tonight. If that doesn't happen, we can kiss this season goodbye and start new implementations using this season as a time boost.

I liked your comment because you had more that i agree with than disagree with. I don't think Jimmy is overrated. Before he got injured he was statistically in the top 5 rankings for CB. He has the skill set to play good but I don't know what's going. Upshaw is a edge setter which he's really good at. We're asking him to do more than what he can since Suggs is out which sucks. I'm not going to cal Predator a bust either because he's been injured and we haven't been able to see what he can do just yet since he hasn't played a NFL game yet. Really, college teams are making the players they use to anymore. The schemes and everything that is ran in colleges is HORRIBLE. This is resulting in players coming out of college and being major bust. Especially QB's. It's hard finding your Ray's, Ed's Ngata's, Suggs in the draft now because of the way these kids is running defense or even offense. I do think we need to hire a new WR coach because they are poor at getting separation. As much as I like Torrey, his route running was terrible lol. None of his routes were crisp in/out of breaks. Other than you're right, I wish Fox didn't get fired. lol

Completely understand the frustration but this goes back to my earlier post. First off the Joe comment was BS. Joe had another good game yesterday. Yes he threw a INT but look at his numbers on yesterday.32-49 completions....2 TD's 1 INT. Joe put us in a position to win what I believe twice. Our defense is what gave up our leads. Flacco can't make receivers catch the ball. Kamar has been ABSENT. Marlon/Camp doesn't get on the field as much. Crockett wasn't highly utilize in the passing game. Offensive line isn't gelling even though this is their second year together and that's affecting the run game. Yet, Joe still played a pretty good game. Dean needs to pay attension because I'm not sure why he's doing. Why AJ wasn't doubled convered IDK but that lost for the second week in a row is on the defense.

Trestman needs to get his head together. Pees need to get his head together. Lets get going

I don't see why you'll take snaps from Brown. How many passes was thrown his way? How many were bad passes? How many did he actually drop? Compared to Kamar I think Brown played a lot better when the ball was on target. If anything, Brown should be starting on the outside and put Kamar or Camp in the slot. I'll take Camp in the slot anyway or split the slot snaps between the two of them. We've seen what Brown has down when we put him on the outside. The guy can catch. Give him more snaps and I bet you he'll rip it up. Did we not forget the Vikings game? Lets get Brown on the field more. Kamar has really me under performing and I really like the guy. I think he's good but as a solid third receiver. I think Brown can really be a solid number 2 to compliment SSS.

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Yeah it may have been late and I doubt crockett was his first read too.....crockett had his hands on the ball and flacco did what he could to win that game....our oline played horrible and von was eating that left side up.....i just think our fans are really trolling right now about the game....we lost by 6 and not the amount of TD's peyton put up on us last year....def played good and joe did good by not having a protected pocket and receivers not getting seperation

THANK YOU!!! Someone with Football knowledge and sense. Everything you said was spot on. Flacco played well for how terrible the offense was.

That second INT wasn't Flacco fault!!! Are you kidding!? It was in CG's hands! No protections, run game or receivers getting seperation

The first part of your statement was spot on but about Joe not at all. Joe play good to not have protection, no run game and the receievers not getting open. Kamar was no where in site, smith had a ton of drops. Give the man some credit this was collective fail for this game. The line played horrible and our backup LT was getting destroyed by Von. They were in the backfield every play. What do you expect Joe to do if he doesn't have protection. Broncos was getting passes off because of how far back Dean had the DB's back which was so stupid.

This makes no sense at all. Or receivers had no separation all game. So how is he suppose to get them the pass. Flacco would have had more INT than 2 yesterday

It's no way Flacco could have played that any better. He gave Crockett a chance which he almost made the play but it was ripped out of his hands. Flacco cant make the receivers catch on top of throwing the ball. He throws a dart crockett is not catching it. He was up against like 2 or 3 denver players. Not realistic at all

The reason why Flacco held the ball for so long is because our recievers was not getting open all game. The packages Marc was running wasn't effective and our RB's was not putting the def on their heels. Wasn't much Flacco could do. Flacco played smart. That one INT was his fault. The second one was not. Flacco played pretty darn well for the way the game went. Receivers not getting open, no run game, line not giving him protection will cause your team to lose everytime.

I think you all need to relax. Look at the score and compare it to last year. This was defensive game all the way through. We lost by 6 and not by a bunch of TD's. Flacco played well to have NO PROTECTION in the pocket. As soon as Monroe went down, Von Miller was eating our backup alive. Horrible to watch but Flacco played with confidence all the way through. The first INT was his fault, the second one was in Gilmores hands but snatched away. That's just good defense. The pass to Smith for a potential game winning TD was IN SMITH'S HANDS! He dropped the pass. Give Flacco a little credit. He didn't force a lot, turned the ball over once that was his fault. Got out the pocket and threw the ball away when needed. Both offenses had some issues with the defense. SMH jeesh did you guys even watch the game? I'm hearing all kinds of crap about Flacco. Stop watching just one man play and look at the team as a unit. For Joe to perform and recievers needs to get open which they barley did. Running back need to get yards which they barley did because of the line. He needs time to throw when he didn't have all game because of the line. It's not a one man show. SMH

Nothing Brady has done was well earned. Especially when every championship they won has a question mark written above it. I think people give Brady a little to much credit. This guy has the best check down game in NFL. That's where the BULK of his yards and scores come from. He's not a Rodgers or Manning. I'll take Rodgers over Brady any day for the simple fact that he's the full package and the best QB in football. Brady is the golden child of the NFL and he gets away with so much and rules are bent way to much for him. How many times will we see him screaming and yelling directly in a refs face before he's thrown out a game or penalized? What the he77 is a tuck rule?! The league didn't start looking at protecting QB's until he was knocked out for the entire season. Why it didn't happen with any other QB? The guy is a solid QB but the best of all time?! No freaking way. He's the product of BB. If that backup would have played i bet any amount of money they still would have won against the Steelers.

Why cut Brown?! I thought he played exceptionally well. Are we bringing him back at all? I hope they do!