Sami84

1 minute ago, balfan23 said:

OMG folks - take this hand wringing crap to the draft thread .... 

Welcome to the Ravens, Marlon Humphrey! You are coming into a quality organization that has a winning tradition and want to build on that with your talent. There are definitely worse places to land. 

Bring some swagger, confidence and give 110% ... another words ... PLAY LIKE A RAVEN! 

 

He'll play like a raven, he'll play great run D and Break screens but will struggle to cover man to man and give up big plays  thats how we role ..you wont be disappointed in that regard

Just now, redrum52 said:

For reals?

 

TRUU

 

yup..this forum just goes into a denial out of for the love of ozzie love fest.

I said huff was one of most non-instinctive players that we could sign and was only an athlete. I got a plethora of negs and what do you know? Ozzie knows best..

he probably would have drafted him 2006 as aside from reed he's never shown interest in guys that ballhawk over guys that run and jump

1 minute ago, January J said:

What do you mean YET AGAIN ? didn't we specifically draft a franchise left tackle last year at #6 overall? Didn't we address wide receiver with our first the year before that? Ozzie literally can't win. Damned if he does and damned if he don't. If we would've taken somebody else and jimmy went down in the thick of the playoff hunt again or Carr didn't pan out everybody would've been calling him a fool for passing on Humphrey too. As I said- ravens fans are NEVER satisfied.

 

 it's not about taking a corner

it's about taking a corner that struggles against man to man coverage when there are many more polished and quite frankly better corners that could be had while getting an extra pick by trading down.

my point is that the eye test tells me that marlon is not only NOT BPA he's not even the best corner available.

i remember when people in this forum were legit saying

Huff and Elam > Pollard and Old Reed.

13 minutes ago, LosT_in_TranSlatioN said:

Coincidence? I think not lol. Like I said though, I like Humphrey. He's probably going to be a good player. 

That said, I honestly would have rather gotten Warford at this point and kicked Lewis out to tackle. My big fear is that our plan is to neglect the oline entirely and pick up Mangold and Vollmer. I don't like the in house replacements, and I am not too confident in our weapons. 

Howard is gonna be a special player though. I hope we can take my boys(Cooper Kupp and Jake Butt) but we need to fix that line first. I hope Lamp or Robinson fall(and Robinson is not a bad pick in the second). 

 

dont touch lewis and RT. He is an atrocious RT.

Remember when ozzie signed michael huff and drafted matt elam.

i do

1 minute ago, PurpleHorseman said:

Dude some people here are going to say anybody ravens picked was the BPA and attempt to justify it. Every player we pick was the best possible pick ravens could make. It's actually funny

 

btw let me make this clear. Humphrey has really strong points..he is as many point out and his game tape shows this the best screen destroyer and tackler in this CB class and it's not close..he also had insane agility and good make up speed..but

HE"S a STRONG SAFTEY NOT A CORNER! he could be an All pro saftey..he is simply not a corner. He is worth the pick when everything is in front of him..when he has to mimmick and beat a top notch reciever and turn his head and use that elite corner instincts though he is Nowhere near a 1st round pick.

8 minutes ago, redrum52 said:

I wanted Howard, but realistically, adding another TE wasn't necessary.  All the WR were gone and it was too early to OL.  CB was more important than DL and he's only 20. 

 

I also didn't want Allen.  Yea.  I said it.

 

He hasn't really neglected the offense either.  It may seem like it this off season, but was Wagner worth that money?  No way Juice was staying.  Still plenty of draft left and I highly doubt we don't scoop up any linemen.  I don't think anyone saw the Wrs all going in the top 10 either.  Also, everytime our first pick is a Alabama defender we make a deep playoff run.  So there goes that.

 

I said at the end of the season that this FO will show if its evolved by letting B.Will walk and resign wagner. We could have signed wagner and got Pryor for the amount of dosh we spent on the vastly overrated williams.

our FO is declining big time.

I hope everyone here realizes that if Humphrey was an LSU player he wouldn't have been picked.

8 minutes ago, redrum52 said:

Who did you want at that spot?

BPA 

Rueben Foster or Oj howard. Or trade back and take T.White.

btw Humphrey was a lot more hyped the previous year. this year QBS targeted him and showed him up. 

6 minutes ago, BOLDnPurPnBlacK said:

Prisco is a moron.

He also said Fournette wont be good, and that Garret is a bust already.

 

I'm not sold on fournette btw

btw, 

While i'm not a fan of the humphrey pick he's a better player than elam was. He can 3 things

Tackle

Break Screens

Play Run D

He's actually a better safey than elam lol

Just now, arnie_uk said:

@Sami84

@BmoreBird22

Sami said he attacked the eat greedy saying. I bet You he was under a different name cause I do remember a guy that had eat greedy as his tag line thingy

 

nope it was under my name. I have no idea why i cant find any posts from 2013 but i can tell you that i attacked elam for being an awful pick and when he started creating this eat greedy nonsense brand i said he's got a long way to go before he starts creating a brand name.

1 minute ago, BmoreBird22 said:

Has no issues showing my posts from 2013.

well i tried viewing my posts from 2013 and i couldnt find them either. Maybe because i've been banned or something? who knows. What i will say is that if you dont remember me posting in 2013 and  claim that im lying and made my first post in 2014 then f-off please. I know when i joined and when i was posting.

1 minute ago, BmoreBird22 said:

The awkward moment when your first ever post was Jan 9, 2014.

thats BS. Error on the boards i joined in apirl 2013 and posted thorughout the year. This board doesn't allow you to go back to posts that far. You're full of ... you know that? If you cant remember me posting in 2013 then stop pretending you remember anything.

25 minutes ago, rossihunter2 said:

cyrus jones is the closer to a bust than dre kirkpatrick ever has been - you're hyping up his return skills but they are literally the reason we even ran the patriots close when we played them last year

 

 

oh i find it funny how when its  a ravens player 1 year is not enough time to call someone a bust no matter how awful they are yet with other teams 

BUST BUST BUST

1 minute ago, rossihunter2 said:

if you never liked cyrus jones much why would you project him in the 3rd and make a point of telling me it wasnt a reach to take him there

in the space of half an hour you changed your mind on a prospect after being given new information - that is literally the definition of hindsight analysis

 

Because i didnt see much going on from 3rd round onwards. I did like tavon though  and i got the 3 guys i rated high right. Stanely, Dixon and tavon

1 minute ago, BmoreBird22 said:

He didn't post about Elam until into the 2014 season, I'm pretty sure.

Nope, I posted 2 weeks after the draft as I was on holiday. I said Elam is a liability in coverage and i cringed when i saw ozzie say '' we had a guy called ed reed, and we are looking for the guy to replace him, we think you're that guy''.

I also attacked his ''eat greedy'' brand he started when he first joined and was negged to death for it AND i said he has some nerve saying he's world class in coverage before he even played a game after what i saw on tape

1 minute ago, Adreme said:

First off you are judging Perriman WAY too early.  Let the guy have an actual off-season before we start judging of his weaknesses from college can be coached away.  It's kinda hard to do that though when freak injuries (which were NOT part of equation when drafting him because he wasn't an injury risk) detail first few seasons.

Second didn't someone already note in your publicly viewable post history that you didn't even mention Perriman until AFTER we drafted him.  Since you were right on Elam and wrong on Williams i will give you 50 percent accuracy which is not bad I guess.

 

that person is lying as i have 5000 thousand posts and there is no chance he;d have found it. I cant find any posts from 2 years ago. I did, I said it many times. I've made mistakes but the person you're speaking of would not be able to find a post among 5000 .

6 minutes ago, rossihunter2 said:

cyrus jones is the closer to a bust than dre kirkpatrick ever has been - you're hyping up his return skills but they are literally the reason we even ran the patriots close when we played them last year

 

yeah i never liked cyrus jones much. Im glad we didnt pick him.

1 minute ago, BOLDnPurPnBlacK said:

thats awesome. and?

Playing the pass isnt just about getting INT's.... which btw Jimmy may not get many of but by eliminating half of the field by himself he forces QB's to squeeze throws into much small windows that are crowded by more defenders since they know Jimmy is fine on his own.

And most of Shermans INT's came when he was being tested often. His INT numbers have dropped steadily since teams started avoiding him. Jimmy doesnt get thrown at all.

 

But when he does, he allows the lowest catch % of any CB in the league, and the fewest yards per reception when they do catch it. The only are of the field that QB's have even near league average passer rating throwing at Jimmy is behind or within 2 yards of the of scrimmage.

He doesnt allow catches, and when he does he tackles right away for limited yardage. IE passing games dotn work in his direction. Id say thats pretty effective at playing the pass.

And means more than an extra 2 or 3 INT's.... especially when hes helping Weddle, Webb, Tavon, Mosley and Orr get them (add Jefferson and Humphrey to that list now).

 

jimmy is a solid player but i think we may have seen the best of him. He's almost 30! Time flies eh? I just wish we had an all pro type of talent at corner for once..the only guy we've ever had that could be considered elite was C-Mac. Webb had his 1 season but thats not enough for me.

Just now, rossihunter2 said:

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How is it hindsight WHEN they hadnt played? Also perriman and elam for the millionth time was NOT HINDSIGHT.

i hate denial of someone being right just because the outcome wasnt great.

2 minutes ago, rossihunter2 said:

richard sherman is a rare player with the scheme to allow him to go after the football and he had great ball skills - i dont know why his being unbelievably good would mean jimmy or webby are bad players?

 

Jimmy is a solid player..I just don't see that superstar corner potential you would want. If they wanted a corner so bad they should have traded their 3rd and 1st for lattimore. 

If we had come out of this draft with lattimore i'd have given us an A PLUS. why? He's an absolute baller.

Just now, BOLDnPurPnBlacK said:

your opinions are meaningless to me.

youre the greatest hindsight evaluator of talent ive ever seen.

Great that you think hes a 2nd round talent. Multiple sources have said most teams saw him as the #1 or #2 CB. So its not just Ozzie and Baltimore... the majority of the league is stupid.

 

im not a hindsight guy. If we picked lattimore ( had he been available) or T.white, Conley or waited for sidney jones i'd have liked the pick a lot more. I'm not a hindsight guy. In this case I didn't even think we'd be interested as i thought we had done enough in the secondary AND he isnt the talent of the players i just mentioned.

I trust my abilty to judge talent and you know what? I've had more right than ozzie has in recent years so i won't let people on here bully me just because someone has a title. Titles mean nothing, results do.