Sami84

Listen the ravens have a different philosphy on talent evaluation 1- Speed > Routes 2- Size > Hands 3- Tackling > Awareness

yeah, same I'm not a huge fan of the first two picks. Ozzie is a flat out liar about BPA when you have R.Foster, Allen and OJ howard on the board. If i wanted a corner so badly i'd have traded the 2nd round pick along with our first for marshon lattimore or traded back for sidney jones. Btw humphrey has had issues for years with the deep ball..even in high school ball. I dont think he'll ever be great at it. Then again we like getting beat deep it seems. We care more about hard hitters than playmakers. Bowser looks too raw .

Williams is 23 and Bowser is 21. In two years we'll see bowser in a more prominent role.

i meant za'darius smith, not judon.

I think him and Carl Davis are on the serious bubble.

I think the FO has soured a lot of zadarius smith. He's just so pathetic at pass rushing it's scary.

I am hoping that matt judon becomes our breakout player next year.

how am i playing both sides of the coin IF THEY HAVENT PLAYED A SNAP YET!? I said Humphrey should be a solid player. I said i dont think he'll be a pro bowler or anything but i think he'll be a top 15 corner. Like between 10-15. I see Wormley, T.Williams and Siragusa all being starters with the latter two having Pro Bowl potential. Wormley has the highest floor of nearly all the draft picks from the middle second round and above.

wouldnt make any difference. average and insignificant

Lets be perfectly honest here. We are not going to get anyone worth talking about in a waiver wire. We need to make a trade ala boldin 2010. I'd take the risk on sammy watkins. 2nd round pick..no question.

No. I'm being honest..he hasnt played a snap yet. I had time to watch more tape. I'm learning from my arthur brown mistake.

I had a chance to watch more tape. I watched some FULL houston games. By the way no draft in history produces more stars than busts. So if you're implying that there is no BUST in the first 4 picks then you havent learned. He has big upside ( bowser) but at the NFL level does he have the instincts? can he read plays? Is he simply unmoulded clay? I needed to see more consistent play recognition from him ( at the SAM spot). Look, we have never had a draft thats not had more busts than successes. I'm just saying if there's going to be a bust it's likely this guy. The most safe picks where Wormley, T.Williams and Siragusa.

He lacks fluidity in his hips and doesn't have that playmaking sixth sense if you will with his back turned. He's great when everything is infront of him which is what you like from SS

It would not shock me if we yet again have a ravens draft where the first 2 round picks dissapoint and the middle round guys are the ones who end up being the players for us. I watched more bowser tape and i'm not sure about him...he lacks instincts and seems too raw for a 2nd round pick. After watching more film of Lattimore, Sidney Jones and conely I really wish i could speak with harbs and ozzie and ask them to explain how humphrey was far and away a better corner than the last two Also, not picking OJ howard or Rueben Foster is basically a mistake. The latter is AT LEAST bobby wagner and OJ howard is as polished of a TE i've seen in years in both the receiving and running game. While humphrey is nowhere near the mistake elam was, he and bowser will not be pro bowl players. thats my guess. I think Humphrey will have good and bad moments and will be a solid corner . I think the guys that ends up being our best player this year are Wormley, T.Williams and Siragusa.

11.7 broad jump ..that has to be a combine record.

Firstly, I said matt elam was an awful tackler from day 1. I was his number one hater. Anyone here can tesitify to this, even before he played a snap. Secondly, every single scout, from NDT to PFF to walterfootball all say what I have said. Same with Vach Lombardi. HIs tackling form and his length is a whole different league to elam. Elam was pathetic, undersized with T-rex arms.

sure in all seriousness while I was excited to get a jack of all trades potential in bowser i cant help but wonder if zach cunningham would have been the safer, plug in and play pick.. remember usually only 2-3 MAX tend to be sucesfull in draft classes the rest end up being disappointments. Looking at this class of the main picks, bowser def has the highest boom to bust scenario. Guys like Humphrey, Wormley, T.Williams, Siragusa have high floors IMO.

of the main 4 round picks this is the biggest boom to bust of them all. I can see Humphreys, Williams, Wormely and Siragusa being big time players for us this season. Bowser is the only one where it wouldnt shock me if he doesn't see the field as much. Zach Cunningham is more pro ready and might have been a better pick IF we wanted a guy that would step right next to CJ mosely with no issues. Bowser needs to be coached into a specific role.

i know this might sound crazy to some but if he lost 18 pounds and based on his coverage skills and fluidity he could be a lockdown corner lol

best thing about footwork is that it's correctable. Explosiveness isnt.

thing is find really odd is that this board is active. It's very active in fact and people are joining quite consistently, if this were a ghost town i'd understand but i haven't seen any significant drop in traffic. I really don't understand the need to close this board. It's costs nothing and its being used.

Positives- 1- Best tackler of all corners in the draft 2-Best screen destroyer of all corners in draft 3- Great Length and size 4- Short memory- doesn't get rattled 5-When the play is infront of him he's as reliable as they come 6: Jams receiver as well as any DB in this draft. Disrupts routes often. 7: SS and FS potential negative 1- Hip movement. It's more technique based than anything 2- The big one, when his back is turned his timing if off and doesn't have good awareness of where the ball is..this is when the ball is always thrown deep. If he was slightly better here he WOULD be the number one corner in the draft. For me, this is a BIG deal and the main reason why I had a second round grade on him. Along with tackling, deep man coverage is the most important attribute for a first round corner. 3- Sometimes doesn't seem to play to his speed because he doesn't use his hips right and some WR's will have a head start and better acceleration due to being running forward rather than turning. Needs to mirror and become more fluid in turning. overall- Seems likea a hybrid CB/SS. If he can improve his hip technique and man coverage he will not only stick with his man he'll be C-Mac BUT this has to be something which is a real priority for our DB coaches. this is NOT matt elam . This is a guy that has a high ceiling but with some flaws that could have scared teams off drafting him in the first.

Disgraceful, if this board wasn't closing you should be banned, not for an opinion but simply this abuse of the english language.

For the most part, I'm hoping that weddle is designated on his side of the ball as over the top saftey help to help deal with his one but really important flaw.

different kind of player. Of course he could, he was an athletic freak. If he was in this draft and seeing who he became hes acually the closest thing to myles garrett.