Sami84

Listen the ravens have a different philosphy on talent evaluation 1- Speed > Routes 2- Size > Hands 3- Tackling > Awareness

yeah, same I'm not a huge fan of the first two picks. Ozzie is a flat out liar about BPA when you have R.Foster, Allen and OJ howard on the board. If i wanted a corner so badly i'd have traded the 2nd round pick along with our first for marshon lattimore or traded back for sidney jones. Btw humphrey has had issues for years with the deep ball..even in high school ball. I dont think he'll ever be great at it. Then again we like getting beat deep it seems. We care more about hard hitters than playmakers. Bowser looks too raw .

Williams is 23 and Bowser is 21. In two years we'll see bowser in a more prominent role.

i meant za'darius smith, not judon.

I think him and Carl Davis are on the serious bubble.

I think the FO has soured a lot of zadarius smith. He's just so pathetic at pass rushing it's scary.

I am hoping that matt judon becomes our breakout player next year.

how am i playing both sides of the coin IF THEY HAVENT PLAYED A SNAP YET!? I said Humphrey should be a solid player. I said i dont think he'll be a pro bowler or anything but i think he'll be a top 15 corner. Like between 10-15. I see Wormley, T.Williams and Siragusa all being starters with the latter two having Pro Bowl potential. Wormley has the highest floor of nearly all the draft picks from the middle second round and above.

wouldnt make any difference. average and insignificant

Lets be perfectly honest here. We are not going to get anyone worth talking about in a waiver wire. We need to make a trade ala boldin 2010. I'd take the risk on sammy watkins. 2nd round pick..no question.

No. I'm being honest..he hasnt played a snap yet. I had time to watch more tape. I'm learning from my arthur brown mistake.

I had a chance to watch more tape. I watched some FULL houston games. By the way no draft in history produces more stars than busts. So if you're implying that there is no BUST in the first 4 picks then you havent learned. He has big upside ( bowser) but at the NFL level does he have the instincts? can he read plays? Is he simply unmoulded clay? I needed to see more consistent play recognition from him ( at the SAM spot). Look, we have never had a draft thats not had more busts than successes. I'm just saying if there's going to be a bust it's likely this guy. The most safe picks where Wormley, T.Williams and Siragusa.

He lacks fluidity in his hips and doesn't have that playmaking sixth sense if you will with his back turned. He's great when everything is infront of him which is what you like from SS

It would not shock me if we yet again have a ravens draft where the first 2 round picks dissapoint and the middle round guys are the ones who end up being the players for us. I watched more bowser tape and i'm not sure about him...he lacks instincts and seems too raw for a 2nd round pick. After watching more film of Lattimore, Sidney Jones and conely I really wish i could speak with harbs and ozzie and ask them to explain how humphrey was far and away a better corner than the last two Also, not picking OJ howard or Rueben Foster is basically a mistake. The latter is AT LEAST bobby wagner and OJ howard is as polished of a TE i've seen in years in both the receiving and running game. While humphrey is nowhere near the mistake elam was, he and bowser will not be pro bowl players. thats my guess. I think Humphrey will have good and bad moments and will be a solid corner . I think the guys that ends up being our best player this year are Wormley, T.Williams and Siragusa.

11.7 broad jump ..that has to be a combine record.