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    For me Tunsil and Bosa are almost certainly gone by the time we pick at 6, if either are there I would take them.

     

    That said moving down to 15 we would still get a top player, one of which many people on here have wanted at various times wanted to take at 6 (Buckner, Nkemdiche, Hargreaves III, Robinson, Treadwell, Stanley).

     

    There are so many directions we could go from here.

    Use both Rams 2nds to get a mid 1st round, pointwise would be 16ish.

    Use our 2nd and 4th to move back into the 1st round, be low around 29/30th but could possibly pick up someone like Apple, Floyd or Spence would be a steal to get Jaylon Smith there.

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  2. Posted · Edited by ArsenalRaven666 · Report post

    I would be all for trading down with the Rams as I believe there will still be several top players availiable at that point and would gain valuable picks.  As a minimum i would Expect their 1st 2nd and 4th, if they are desparate their 1st both their 2nds and future ones.

     

    At 15 could go bpa, the following player have been predicted to be there; Buckner, Nkemdiche, Hargreaves III, Robinson, Treadwell, Stanley, Floyd plus many others that people on here have wanted to take at 6.

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    Guys, need a reminder here please.

     

    As of now we have picks in rounds 1, 2, 3, 4, 4, 6

     

    What are projected comp picks for Ravens this year?

    http://overthecap.com/compensatory-draft-picks-cancellation-chart/

    http://overthecap.com/draft/

     

    According to overthecap we are predicted to be rewarded a 4th McPhee, 4th Torrey Smith and 5th for Daniels.

     

    McPhee could have possibly become a 3rd based on seasons performance but unlikely to get upgraded that far but maybe the top 4th comp pick.  He has performed better then Culliver and Tramon Williams over the season.

    Torrey Smith hasnt played well but is high enough in 4th based on salery not to drop down to the 5th but has probably dropped a few spots down.

    Daniels is currently a 5th but is on the border of 5th/6th, his playoff performances could help him remain there.

     

    Ravens 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 4th (from broncos), two 4th comp, 5th comp and 6th rounder.

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    The value chart is relatively. Nowhere will you see any team move down 7-10 spots in the first for just a 2nd (especially when you're essentially trading up into the top 5). Why? The difference in prospect is massive (usually). 2013 was an exception and even then it was viewed as a horrid move.  

    You have said it would cost more to more from 15 to 6 then it did for the Redskins to trade up from 6-2 for RG3 which is just wrong.  The cost is reletive to what is availiable at 6th, if Goff is there teams will want to jump the 49ers, if Bosa is there there will be other teams wanting to jump each other or even move up to make sure they land him.

     

    So go ride your unicorn over the rainbow

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    I'm not sure how likely it is but I think this is an absolutely perfect scenario for us:

    49ers and another/ multiple teams are in love with the same QB.

    For example 49ers and Rams both want Goff and he is available when we are on the clock. If Rams make us an offer for our spot to jump above 49ers, we then ask the 49ers to match or better that offer just to make sure the Rams don't jump above them

    So essentially 49ers would be 'overpaying' to jump one spot but in real terms it is worth it for them if they believe Goff is their guy and they believe Rams want him also

    In that situation we would come away with extra picks (whatever they may be, I'm not sure), and we have only swapped with the team one below us, and since they are taking the QB, we have the exact same players available to us when we pick 10 mins later

    A bit of a long shot but that would essentially be the perfect scenario- extra picks for free

     

    Would be worth a try and could esssentially get a draft pick/picks for nothing.

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    I really want to avoid turning this into the puppy dog, rainbows, unicorns and daffodils thread so I'm just gonna shoot these down.

     

    Rams want to move up 10 spots. For reference, it cost Washington 3 1sts and a 1 2nd to move up from 6 to 2. Given that, use the trade chart to figure out how much it would cost to move up from 15 to 6. Hint: it's a lot more. The pick and consequently the player you can get at that pick is worth more than what you're asking for.

     

    The Rams fleeced the Redskins in that trade, the move of 1000pts from 6-2 was cost tham too much and doubt there are many stupid enough (browns aside) to mortgage that much again unless the person was a surefire probowl quality player.  A move from 15 to 6 is a difference of 550pts which is to you HINT: alot less then the 100pts Redskins paid.  The redskins had to pay through the nose as they were in love with RG3.  It will be down to who is on the board when we are on and what people are prepared to pay to get there.

     

    Using a point chart our 1st is worth 1600pts

    Rams 1st (1050) 2nd (440) 3rd (205) = 1695pts

    Rams 1st (1050) 2nd (460) 4th (72) = 1582pts and future pick.

     

     

     

     

     

     

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    I don't know why the Eagles are being talked more about as trade partners at 13. They have a new coach and Bradford is a Free Agent. The new coach is probably going to want to pick his own QB. They have two 3rd round picks this year. A trade down to 13 for those picks is more than fair. 

    I would rather trade with the Rams and get another 2nd and a 3rd/4th pick then two more 3rds from the Eagles.

     

    My main reasoning for wanting to trade with the Rams is that they are currently mocked to get Treadwell at 15th, someone I would really like us to draft.  Using some of the additional draft picks we would have (Rams 2nd 3rd/4th and Denvers 4th) we could potentially trade up from the 15th spot or trade into the 1st round for a second time.

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    Dallas doesnt need a qb. They have romo. You dont take a backup qb at 4th overall especially when you are in cap hell and have needs at multiplw positions. If they want a backup there are later rounds and free agency for that.

    Also if you think there are flaws in my reasoning, how about explaining why and where

    I dont see Dallas drafting a Qb at 4 either ... I think they will have Manziel in place as the backup.

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    When we are on the clock at 6 all the teams behind will looking at the cost of trading up.  If one of Stanley, Bosa, Ramsey etc drop to us several teams will be looking to move up for them too, its if we want to trade that spot and how much we want. 

     

    I dont want to drop below the Rams at 15th as they are mocked to get Treadwell who I want.  A trade with the Rams would get us another 2nd and a 4th (maybe 3rd), the Rams do have two 2nd round picks.

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  12. Posted · Edited by ArsenalRaven666 · Report post

    I'd like to somehow draft both Fuller and Apple - Fuller to play FS for Ravens, Apple opposite Jimmy.

     

    It's improbable but not impossible - just need a trade partner to allow us to drop a little in 1st and give us their 2nd. That and a lot of luck. With the extra pick we could find decent OLB/rusher or WR.

    I would like a trade with the Rams, for our 1st would gain their 1st, 2nd and 4th maybe more with future picks.

    Using our 2nd and the Rams 4th we could sneak into the end of the 1st round, by using the Rams 2nd and 4th should give us back to back picks in the 2nd.

     

    At 15th we would still get a quality starter with some mocks showing Treadwell, Floyd, Buckner, Alexander and (after poor bowl game) Hargreaves possibly still there.  Would use the low 1st rounder to pick up Apple (so would have the extra year option)

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    Each player comes with an upside.

    Ramsey is versatile at FS and CB

    Alexander good coverage cornerback

    Hargreaves has possibly the higher ceiling

     

    Living in the UK I dont see much college football on any tv stations here but do use sling to watch some games.  I would like to know what people think of Apple and Fuller, I was impressed with the limited times i saw them.

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    Will look at this more when all the players finish the season and see who declares but this is my mock as the rating are as now.

     

    Rd1 R.Stanley OT

    Rd2   K.Fuller CB

    Rd3   S.Shepherd/K.Lawler WR

    Rd4   A.Zettel DE

    Rd4   C.Jones DT

    Rd4c Y.Ngakoue OLB

    Rd4c D.Bush FS

    Rd5c E.Boehm C

    Rd6   J.Dahl OG

    RD6c A.Morrison ILB

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    please enlighten me on the pts system.

    The one I have been shown is from this site http://walterfootball.com/draftchart.phpbut have seen the same point chart used on several other sites.  It is nothing more then a guide and will be affected by what players are still availiable and willingness on both parties to trade, I just hope a QB needy team will trade on up :)  I chose the Rams as a possible trade partner as they have the ammo with the two second rounders and the need for a QB.

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