ArsenalRaven666

For me Tunsil and Bosa are almost certainly gone by the time we pick at 6, if either are there I would take them. That said moving down to 15 we would still get a top player, one of which many people on here have wanted at various times wanted to take at 6 (Buckner, Nkemdiche, Hargreaves III, Robinson, Treadwell, Stanley). There are so many directions we could go from here. Use both Rams 2nds to get a mid 1st round, pointwise would be 16ish. Use our 2nd and 4th to move back into the 1st round, be low around 29/30th but could possibly pick up someone like Apple, Floyd or Spence would be a steal to get Jaylon Smith there.

I would be all for trading down with the Rams as I believe there will still be several top players availiable at that point and would gain valuable picks. As a minimum i would Expect their 1st 2nd and 4th, if they are desparate their 1st both their 2nds and future ones. At 15 could go bpa, the following player have been predicted to be there; Buckner, Nkemdiche, Hargreaves III, Robinson, Treadwell, Stanley, Floyd plus many others that people on here have wanted to take at 6.

Would be nice but I only see it moving him up the draft order in the 5th rather then jumping up rounds to the 4th. We could pull out a "Kruger" and unexpectly get a higher round pick ... heres hoping Do you think five 4th rounder would be overkill lol

http://overthecap.com/compensatory-draft-picks-cancellation-chart/ http://overthecap.com/draft/ According to overthecap we are predicted to be rewarded a 4th McPhee, 4th Torrey Smith and 5th for Daniels. McPhee could have possibly become a 3rd based on seasons performance but unlikely to get upgraded that far but maybe the top 4th comp pick. He has performed better then Culliver and Tramon Williams over the season. Torrey Smith hasnt played well but is high enough in 4th based on salery not to drop down to the 5th but has probably dropped a few spots down. Daniels is currently a 5th but is on the border of 5th/6th, his playoff performances could help him remain there. Ravens 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 4th (from broncos), two 4th comp, 5th comp and 6th rounder.

You have said it would cost more to more from 15 to 6 then it did for the Redskins to trade up from 6-2 for RG3 which is just wrong. The cost is reletive to what is availiable at 6th, if Goff is there teams will want to jump the 49ers, if Bosa is there there will be other teams wanting to jump each other or even move up to make sure they land him. So go ride your unicorn over the rainbow

Sizzlebshu You try to belittle others but I have used the chart figures that you use and proved you to be wrong. You say no teams would be willing to give up much to move on up and then say I am understating what we could achieve in a draft haul. Pick one side of the fence mate

Would be worth a try and could esssentially get a draft pick/picks for nothing.

I would rather trade with the Rams and get another 2nd and a 3rd/4th pick then two more 3rds from the Eagles. My main reasoning for wanting to trade with the Rams is that they are currently mocked to get Treadwell at 15th, someone I would really like us to draft. Using some of the additional draft picks we would have (Rams 2nd 3rd/4th and Denvers 4th) we could potentially trade up from the 15th spot or trade into the 1st round for a second time.

I dont see Dallas drafting a Qb at 4 either ... I think they will have Manziel in place as the backup.

When we are on the clock at 6 all the teams behind will looking at the cost of trading up. If one of Stanley, Bosa, Ramsey etc drop to us several teams will be looking to move up for them too, its if we want to trade that spot and how much we want. I dont want to drop below the Rams at 15th as they are mocked to get Treadwell who I want. A trade with the Rams would get us another 2nd and a 4th (maybe 3rd), the Rams do have two 2nd round picks.

I would like a trade with the Rams, for our 1st would gain their 1st, 2nd and 4th maybe more with future picks. Using our 2nd and the Rams 4th we could sneak into the end of the 1st round, by using the Rams 2nd and 4th should give us back to back picks in the 2nd. At 15th we would still get a quality starter with some mocks showing Treadwell, Floyd, Buckner, Alexander and (after poor bowl game) Hargreaves possibly still there. Would use the low 1st rounder to pick up Apple (so would have the extra year option)

Cheers mate, had alot of friend say he could be a good pickup especially as currently predicted to go top on the second round.

Best you could probably mug the 49ers off by moving one spot is a 4th this year or 3rd next year.

Ideal trade senario for me would be to trade with the Rams. Our 1st could gain us their 1st (15) 2nd (12) and 4rd (13?). 1st @15, 2nd @5 and 12, 3rd @7 and have three 4ths, thats before the comp picks.

Each player comes with an upside. Ramsey is versatile at FS and CB Alexander good coverage cornerback Hargreaves has possibly the higher ceiling Living in the UK I dont see much college football on any tv stations here but do use sling to watch some games. I would like to know what people think of Apple and Fuller, I was impressed with the limited times i saw them.

I would like us to pickup K.Fuller in the second round

Will look at this more when all the players finish the season and see who declares but this is my mock as the rating are as now. Rd1 R.Stanley OT Rd2 K.Fuller CB Rd3 S.Shepherd/K.Lawler WR Rd4 A.Zettel DE Rd4 C.Jones DT Rd4c Y.Ngakoue OLB Rd4c D.Bush FS Rd5c E.Boehm C Rd6 J.Dahl OG RD6c A.Morrison ILB

I would take Ramsey/Hargreaves with 1st pick, Fuller in 2nd and Jackson/Burns in 3rd depending on the board. I agree that Darby has overall been a better CB over Peters

S.Smith Snr if he returns, I so hope he does. Aiken Perriman D.Brown/Butler Campanaro/Clay best one through camp/injury free Matthews (ST) Waller (ST) Waller and Matthews on special teams together would be great as well as helping in the redzone

The one I have been shown is from this site http://walterfootball.com/draftchart.phpbut have seen the same point chart used on several other sites. It is nothing more then a guide and will be affected by what players are still availiable and willingness on both parties to trade, I just hope a QB needy team will trade on up I chose the Rams as a possible trade partner as they have the ammo with the two second rounders and the need for a QB.

Best case trade with Rams remaining 17th and Eagles 14th Trade our 1st (2200pts) to Rams for their 1st (950) both 2nd (410 and 440). We would also be owed around 400pts depending on where the Eagles rams end up for future picks

The technology in growing and maintaining a quality field is alot more advanced now. I have visited Arsenal's ground and they can grow an entire pitch from scratch in under 2 days, I was told the machines they use cost around 500,000 each, Arsenal had 8 of them. If i can find my tour pics of them will add them

Good pickup. Who is Victor Cruise ?? is it Tom Cruise and Victor Cruz lovechild

Hope the cornerback curse doesnt continue into the season. Best slot corner on the market is Kyle Arrington who the Pats just released, maybe worth a try