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Team is just a bad, bad, REALLY bad football team.

Favre had one foot in the grave forcing touchdowns to moss so don't even act like that is a norm and not an outlier

It is an indicator.  Favre said to the media that throwing the deep ball to Randy was different, moreso than the differences throwing deep to other receivers.  There are differences.

I've always liked Givens and said as much when we traded for him. I understood that his speed and ability to stretch the field would be emphasized for him over running the full route tree.

I never quite understood why people were so quick to dismiss Joe's accuracy throwing him the ball. I'm not sure people realize that throwing deep balls is very much contingent on the prerequisite of chemistry between the QB and WR more than the short and intermediate routes.

It's not easy to time someone's deep speed when you trade for them after week 3 with no training camp or preseason acclamation. I don't think it's much surprise that he and Joe are finally connecting now that he's been here for about six weeks.

Even Favre struggled throwing to Moss in Minnesota.  Not as simple as plug and play like you said.

Pittsburgh worked him out after like week 2.  If his knees weren't so shot he'd have been on a team already.

Be flabbergasted.  Plain and simple.  Loss for words.

Miss Teryl Austin in the worst way.

A team, or more factual, a side of the ball featuring a few guys on the other side (offense- Jamal Lewis) with just a bully mentality or a ton of guts (Mason-Heap).  I miss guys blowing players up and getting in their face after.  QBs afraid to throw to a side of the field.  LBs that didn't just tackle but erased people.  Corners that tackled like safeties.  

Only guys on this team is Will Hill.  He has some of that. And Steve Smith oozes it.

If you're going to get banged for something out for the year at least make it steroids.

He hasn't been, but that doesn't exactly surprise me.  Suggs has always been one that kind of works out and trains on his own.

Yes he has and that won't change at 34.  I don't really care if he's not there during the week to be honest.  At 34 he is what he is.

I didn't read the article but the fact people think having him on the sidelines would help is absurd.  If he wasn't at the practice facility watching tape with guys and helping there while rehabbing then I'd be a little disappointed.  But not on the bench on Sundays?  Come on.

When they paid him he was actually rated a top 10 CB who had the ability to move inside in the nickel and was just as good in coverage and was a nasty blitzer.  Then he blew his knee out, twice.  I fail to see how that's the FO fault for signing him.  They legit picked a guy out of Nicholls St who turned into a top 10 CB that just happened to blow his knee out twice.

I remember the video from the what I believe was the AFC Championship vs New England.  We schemed a defense where we left Kruger out on an island to cover a receiver and the receiver danced around Kruger for a big gain.  Ray Lewis was on the sideline after that play telling the coaches and players to "Let our rushers, rush and let our secondary cover".  He was absolutely right of course. It's classic video if one hasn't seen it.

 

For those that doubt Ray Lewis's leadership, his ability to mentor, film study, guidance on this team. For those that somehow doubt the quality he and  select others brought to Baltimore...the Field Generals...can you really call yourselves Ravens Fans?  Do you think you understand the Baltimore Ravens?  We "were" built for that........but not by non players.

 

That's what we've lost.

 

Now...we like guys with short haircuts, who listen politely and don't make waves. Guys that come from Alabama...The University of Miami....not so much....but then they've changed too.

 

We've got coaches trying to inspire now. That's what they wanted....how do you like it?

I've seen that video.  Changed the complexion of that game.  Say what you will about Ray, and obviously one man can't force guys into being better players, but the confidence that players have lining up beside a walking legend, and a walking football encyclopedia is worth something.  Even if it's little.  Especially when the guy is right so often, or blows up a play because he's seen it and trusts it.  The team is in a transition period, just the way it is.  One day Mosley will be a guy young guys can't believe they get to play with and maybe one day Mosley will inspire.  But he's 23 right now.  We don't have a gross impact player on defense right now, it doesn't help the condition.  With Suggs I firmly believe the situation is different.  Players look to the guy with the battle wounds, the salty experience and who is also a stud, in crisis time.  There's no one there right now.

Pees looking soft as ever out there.  Plus we should have won the game before time expired.  1st and goal from the 4 and still don't score.

Pees even managed to make Mosley look bad.  Just continually leaving him on an island with the TE after it was clear he was having a rough day.  Maybe figure that out...

Screw the Steelers. That's why.

Hahahah, I accept this answer.

I know it sounds weird, but as a fan, hell no. I wouldn't make it. Brown was who I first thought of and refused to bring a Steeler into the convo. Kickers are so much more valuable now.

What?  Excuse me?  Tucker is a straight mobster but how do you just refuse a top 5 WR in the league?  We wouldn't need Tucker as much if we had a WR that could actually get open outside of Steve Smith.

Torrey got an $8M signing bonus on top of his $750K.  His hit is $6.4M next year; and the next year, and the next year and the final year is even more, I believe.  I just don't see them keeping him and paying that kind of money out to him over the next 4 years....  Sorry, I just don't see it.

Mostly because Kaepernick has completely forgotten how to be a passing QB.  That game against GB was just heinous.  Torrey would be close to earning a 6mil cap hit somewhere that has a pure passing QB.  In SF right now though?  No chance.

I really want a game this season where he doesn't throw a pick though. Not nagging on him, love the guy but the picks in crucial situations kill us. Can't blame the guy too much, no one is getting open. 

That and that defensive call was really ballsy by the Steelers DC, trap D disguised as man with the corner falling off and Timmons picking up the sidelines 15 yards down field...? What a call.

I've always said I'd never go to a rival game in any Ravens gear.

My brother is a Falcons fan and we went to the Redskins-Falcons game in RGIII's rookie year and the fans were overly obnoxious toward us (my brother wore a Falcons jersey and I wore Ravens attire). We just went along and never said anything. We cheered,of course, but we never got rowdy or interacted with a Redskins fan. We were totally fine, but I'd imagine it doesn't always go that smoothly.

My brother and myself went to a Browns/Ravens game in Lewis jerseys and Ravens toques (Canadian for beanie) and we just got heckled by a few people.  Nothing crazy, we just laughed and people left us alone except when we walked past them or waiting in line.  No one really got in our face and just poured it on us.

Probably because we didn't want to do an invasive procedure just to physically look at it. I'm not sure why this man heals so slowly. 

I've had scope as an athlete and it was postponed for 6 months before doing it because doctors wanted to do exactly what you said.  For doctors surgery is the last resort if possible.

And that's fine with me. Football doesn't need to be pretty.

No but it will catch up with you.  They need to clean alot of stuff up. 20 to Vick is a poor showing, should have been 26.  Webb is just...I don't even know, he's just not a cover corner anymore.  Be a great cover 2 corner for the Vikings though, just can't turn and run like he used to.

Will Hill is just a football player, he just gets it.

She's an ugly team...

Teams generally don't do this, especially in football.  The only one I can think off the top of my head to do it was the Bruins with Ray Bourque, trading him to the Avs to get a Stanley Cup.

I wouldn't hate it if they dealt him to a legit contender, but only after it was blatantly obvious we weren't doing any damage.  He's 35, if he was even 30 i'd say that's an asinine move, but he's done after the year.  If we're a dumpster fire, and lose to Vick tonight and the Browns, pft, deal him, get him to a team with a chance.

We should've signed Sergio Kindle....who?

Damn stairs...kid was going to be legit.

Doom will be a 3 down guy now, he just has to be, we'll just slide to give him help.  Upshaw will be in run possibility situations and Babin will come in on pass possibility situations.  McClellan will spell Doom every now and then so he doesn't get burned out but don't be surprised if you see ZaDarius working in a lot more than you anticipated.  Very seldom will you get away with a McClellan/Upshaw combo at OLB.

That's just not true. The Broncos were very discipline with their rush, it just seemed like they were reckless because of how fast they got pressure. If Ware came flying in, i promise you there was a LB or S covering the back or the flat.

Also they did run an HB screen and Flacco was hit so fast that the screen never had a chance to develop. So it just looked like a 4 yard pass to Juice. Their LBs played very well and they had the offense scouted very well. That's where the Kubiak affect showed up because they just really had to game plan against themselves. Trestman didn't have nearly enough time in thw offense to develop a gameplan that would look unfamiliar to Kubes. If you can win the LOS against a Kubiak offense and your LBs stay discipline it'll be hard for that offense to succeed.

Go back and watch the game. Those guys played the back side bokt action all day, which is why Flacco could never complete a bootleg. They sat on the RBs out of the backfield all game which is why Trestman tried flexing the RB out wide at times but that just meant less protection for Joe. So you couldn't do that often.

Trestman's influence will be on the passing game but the running game is still exactly what it was under Kubes and that put the Ravens at a huge disadvantage for "this" game, because the oline wasn't up to par. They definitely could have run more screens and draws but when they did try Flacco was still getting hit.

That's why the screen works, because the safety is singled up with the HB and the edge rush goes flying in with no responsibilities.  All it takes is a push from the LG and LT and you have two lineman on a safety.  They played backside all day for sure because Kubiak knows the bootleg, but I'm talking just a simple screen.  Ware over his entire career has been known as a top calibre pass rusher and an average run/screen defender for a reason.

Im not worried about Trestman, I watched him carve up CFL defenses for 5 years, he knows what he's doing.  I was just questioning why he didn't use more HB screens to get the blitz to back off.