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4 hours ago, The Raven said:

Tim Williams is one of very few DL/edge picks that embody that. John Simon, Upshaw, DTs not named Willie Henry and Bronson Kaufusi, and even Paul Kruger had no hand use or burst. Just hustle. Sergio Kindle had both but...

We're getting better at it. Judon last year has both. ZDS has hand use, at least.

I realize Tim has what I'm looking for, but he's been the outlier.

To be fair to Kruger he developed a really good rip move.  May have been a one trick pony but that takes hand use.

14 hours ago, allblackraven said:

Almost identical situation to Justin Houston. Few spots difference.

I advocated so hard for Houston in that draft.  I wanted the Ravens to take him in the first.  Still so sad lol.

Correa is officially an ILB now, removed all doubt there.

8 minutes ago, BmoreBird22 said:

I've seen him called the best corner within 10 yards of the line of scrimmage and I'd agree.

Excellent height/weight/speed/length to be a physical press man corner that can blow up screens and outside runs. And he's the best run defending corner in the draft, bar none. He's very aggressive and can hit like a truck.

He recognizes and digests routes well. He makes pretty good breaks on the balls, but will get much better with better footwork. 

He struggles on deep balls. He'll flip his hips too early to defend the deep ball and bites on double moves. Average ball production that should spike with better footwork. Does not turn his head enough at the moment.

This is about what I saw from him in the limited amount of games I watched.

I don't see how its not a win if he's a backup, you're not going to find another guy who knows the system that well from multiple positions, is as good a tackler and as good of a blitzer at this point in FA.  Webb as a potential 3rd safety and 5th corner?  Can do a lot worse.

Davis is a guy the staff grew tired of because of a perceived lack of effort.  It plagued him at Iowa as well which is why he fell to the 3rd despite having every tool it takes to be an effective NFL player.  This trade to me makes no sense because theres nothing behind him.  Why not roll the dice, see if he has a big contract year and then get a potential 3rd/4th round comp pick anyways?  You traded your only quick twitch athlete on the line and a 3rd to move up 20 spots?  Bizarre.  Now Urban, a guy who has had 2 season ending injuries and Kaufusi, who hasn't even played an NFL snap are your interior rushers...yikes.

Living in Canada this was basically the only joint for semi-intelligible Ravens talk. Facebook Ravens is just insanity, theres no discussion there.

You can't invest 5mil a year on a rotational DT with our cap right now.  Guy is a rock solid player but they'll create situation packages with all the other line players to mitigate his loss.

Rarely find corners that can tackle like he can, its innate, you cant teach it to a 180 pound kid.  He has "it", shame his knees didn't keep up with him, he was a damn good player.  Id love for the Ravens to bring him back at a lesser cap hit.

Still has some of the best hip fluidity that I've seen in the NFL today.  But like others have stated, he's the president of Club Med.

On 2017-01-18 at 6:43 PM, gtalk12 said:

Collins? Really? A guy who for his career only won 3 playoff games? Last I checked nobody won with Kerry Collins.

Flacco has a better playoff record no doubt but Collins went to the playoffs 3 times as a starter and they've been to the same number of Super Bowls.  Collins just ran into the best defense of all time in his.  Collins and Flacco's physical skill set is quite similar and they both relied on equally complimentary run/pass games to be successful.  They just played in vastly different eras for QBs.

Essentially what I was trying to get at with my original post is that Flacco will never be a top 5 QB and people need to accept that.  People also need to accept that he's not bottom 5 and that you can win with him.  Just the FO has to be more deliberate in what it does to a roster to make him successful.

Flacco is essentially Kerry Collins playing in a different era of football.  Nothing wrong with it, you can win with a Kerry Collins as seen by his many years of playing decently well on decent teams.  However he needs helps to get there as he'll inexplicably crap the bed some weeks.  It is what it is, he's not elite, never has been, he's also not trash, never has been.  He's like an 8-12 range QB depending on his year.  Its foolish to think he's actually worth the contract he got and its foolish to think you can just find a QB that wins as often as Flacco in any draft.  I don't know his contract particulars for dead money but I'd be looking long and hard at him in 2 years when he's 35.

16 minutes ago, BmoreBird22 said:

I've never really heard of it being up there with a stadium like Pittsburgh.

Pittsburgh is notoriously bad because of the open end and the grass is dog voodoo because they let every level of football be played on it, all the way down to HS ball.  Least they used to.  So it got chewed up something awful.

20 minutes ago, ellicottraven said:

Why would Dennison accept a demotion from OC though? He only became QB coach because he wanted Gary Kubiak to come to Baltimore and become OC. He was actually interviewed in 2013 for OC position when even Kubiak became a possibility through him! I doubt he comes here to become QB coach.

If history is any past indication, Dennison would be the OC here by about week 8 if he took the QB coach job haha.

4 hours ago, RavensFanMania said:

Shanahan can be a head case as well.  Never was an oc away from his dad or Gary Kubiak. 

I'd definitely take him if given another opportunity, but feel he will be the next failed hot coordinator turned head coach.

Btw, They run the same system.  

This is 100% the reason, fairly certain past QBs have had some issue with Kyle Shanahan if I remember correct.  They weren't completely sold so they waited it out to see what Kubiak was doing.  Otherwise the hire would have happened in about 5min when he opened up his own version of his dads playbook.

I'd be PO'd too after watching that check down fiasco in the face of a 4 man zone blitz, a crappier scheme than what Pitt used to run for years under LeBeau, like Flacco hadn't seen it before.  The staff needs to stop pretending that Flacco is in the Rogers/Brees/Rivers category and just let him be what he is and letting him be good at that.  A QB that needs run game protection, that needs easy completions on the first two drives to get a rhythm, throw some deep shots in and work off play action.  Doesn't mean he's a bad QB but you're sure going to turn him into a middling one if he keeps dropping back 45 times.

Tuckers thing was he fell in a sink hole.  Grass being slick and not having great traction kind of happens in December in cold weather states.

Seems like its been awhile where a Ravens OC was so relentless on a weakness they noticed while formulating a plan.  I liked it.

1 minute ago, Cville-Raven said:

Offense starts amazing and can't keep the foot on the gass. Steve needs to contain himself. I know we all like his fire but those penalties are inexcusable. I think we need to give Dixon the primary back role now. 

That was a soft call on Smith, bizarre with 35 refs on a field no one can see that Burfict flopped like a fish.

Say this, Harbaugh knows his ST.

1 hour ago, A Fish Called Yanda said:

Not even sure what I just watched.  But a win is a win.

High school football lol.

1 hour ago, flynismo said:

This is every week for the Saints, since the day Payton arrived there. And this is against a very good SEA defense no less. Nearly every single completion Brees has made has been essentially long handoffs. I've always been jealous of that system.

All the more impressive from that 2000 Ravens D that shut him out in the Super Bowl as the Giants OC.

2011 is when I noticed the boards started changing.  Just be happy we don't have anymore 43 vs 34 threads, I lost years on my life in those.

Biggest thing for me was how he was so quick to throw his hands up and project anything that was a disconnect between himself and a receiver onto the receiver.

Simply put it's not a quality leadership trait and it came to light when things didn't go his way.  Dropped pass, miss blitz hot route, disconnect on route depth etc.  Flack will do this little weird point route work thing with his finger on one hand, but will never throw up two hands on a receiver, the ol "what are you doing"

Wanted to re-visit this and note how well KO, Jensen, Urschel, and Wagner have done. These four guys have spent their entire careers with Castillo, and look how well they're playing. Jensen has been the highest rated LG in the league for the past two weeks according to PFF. I know some of you hate PFF because their ratings contradict your narratives, but Jensen has been balling out. KO has moved from LG to LT - a challenging move - and he's doing great. Urschel has done better each game, and Wagner is getting back to his peak, where he was last season.

 

But we should still fire Castillo, right? He's only Harbaugh's buddy. It's not like he actually knows how to develop young linemen.

A foolish move to fire him, don't know why people would advocate it.  He's a noted Oline coach in the league with a history of success.  His first year here was a bit of a poor year but I'd chalk that up to trying to transition a man blocking scheme to an entirely zone blocking scheme and also just exactly what Moeller was doing with Castillo.  Too many cooks in the kitchen type thing.  Im still trying to figure out why Reid moved Castillo to DC in Philly...