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    3 hours ago, theduug said:

    The Ravens biggest problem has been the draft. We've missed on way too many first/second round picks lately: Perriman, Correa, Maxx, Elam, Arthur Brown, Kindle, Cody to name a recent few. We are not able to reap the benefit of having an impact player playing on a cheap, rookie contract (ex: Dak and Zeke). This forces us to look to FA to fill the rest of our holes. But due to Joe's large cap # and some other older dead money, we've been pretty limited. Hence the dumpster diving on CBs, only signing 30+ WRs, etc. Our later round picks have been good, but take 4 years to develop, and then we can't afford to retain them. Other picks have been good to mediocre: Jimmy Smith only plays 50% of the time, we traded Jernigan a 24 yr old 2nd round pick because he quits half way through a season, Upshaw (we used our first pick in the draft on an edge setter??? Cmon.)
     

    Perriman is coming into his third year, without even having a TC with Joe, while I will say this is the year he needs to show why we drafted him, I don't think you can legitimately say we missed on him yet.  Maxx and Correa, its still too early to judge, and im a huge critic of Correa but even I know we have to give him some time to develop.  Kindle was a freak accident, just bad luck on the FO and for Kindle.   I do agree we need to draft our early picks, but lets not act like we are the only team that has drafting issues with their first pick.  Also, we normally nail our mid-round picks

    Joe's cap hit is not as big as an issue as people make it out to be.  Also, what dumpster diving CBs are you talking about?  And  yea, signing 30+ year old WRs has really worked out poorly for us....what were we thinking. 

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    1 hour ago, fusuymada said:

    I guess it is hard for people to grasp who does what job in the Ravens hierarchy. I guess I can envision twenty or thirty interviews where Ozzie clearly states that he gets input from everyone, including Harbaugh but ultimately, all decision reside with him. The Ravens failure under Harbaugh has more to do with how we draft and the players that Harbaugh has, than from the coach drafting, kicking out or signing players. Ever since the "revolt" of 2012, people have been on this Harbaugh kick out "type A" players kick, which Steve Smith Sr has proven is just garbage. (Not to mention Harbaughs wanting to reacquire Boldin, which he would not do if he had a problem with him.)

    An article on this site a week or so ago really states my point where Eisenberg did an interview with Eric DeCosta and Eric was clear in the explanation that just 5 years ago, the Ravens could count on getting great players late in the draft, because other teams were just bad at drafting players. Routinely, DeCosta stated, that at the end of their draft, several of their top 100 players hadn't even been drafted, BUT, here recently, as teams have improved their drafting abilities, no longer are there great players overlooked late in the draft, they are all gone. It is clear, with that explanation, as to just why the Ravens and their drafts have been less than stellar as compared to Ozzie's drafts earlier in the Ravens existence. Its not that the Ravens have gotten bad at the draft or that Harbaugh just wants robots, it is that the other teams have gotten better, putting pressure on the Ravens to find new ways to get better than everyone else. I believe Ozzie has determined recently that 12 draft picks don't do you any good if 8 of those you have to cut so Ozzie has concentrated more on free agents and moving in the draft to get players and not picks.

    I will never convince the Harbaugh naysayers who are banging the drum of getting rid of him that their arguments don't hold water and are just based on personal bias, but they will continue to follow their hearts instead of their heads. If someone believes the world is flat, you just have to shake your head and laugh.

    I think this upcoming draft will prove my point even more.

    Well said and im in agreement with you.  I think we saw a bit of a change in Oz and Co. philosophy, yet the funny thing is that all the haters still find a way to complain about who we decide to sign.  People really complaining that we bring back Webb as depth?  Or that we have signed two of the top ranked safeties two years in a row? Or signed a CB that may not be a shutdown corner (because those are just chilling in FA ) but is a reliable #2? 

    I think a lot of people compare our drafted players too much to our greats of the past, I mean, anytime we start discussing draft picks, someone (usually a negative ned) always brings up how we don't have any Ray Lewis' or Ed Reeds on this roster. I am not saying im content with where we stand, but we are making moves that have gotten me pretty excited for this year.  We have a lot of young players from last year and the year before that could really change the make up of our team and we have a draft that's loaded with talent this year.  I think OZ and Co. will shut up a lot of fans with this draft coming up, or at least I hope. 

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    45 minutes ago, PurpleHorseman said:

    A team wants trade up for a QB. Ravens trade down to late round 1 and pick up an extra round 2 and maybe  round3. Giving us 2 round2 picks and 3 round3 picks. And load up on top50 talents like JuJu/Ardarius Stewart, Moton, Conley,White,Njoku/Engram,Jarred Davis,Carl Lawson/Charles Harris/Tim Williams,Ogunjobi . Some examples of the players available!

    Quincy Wilson, Rivers, Godwin, Feeney, Curti Samuel just to name some more.  So much talent in this draft, trading back is enticing

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    51 minutes ago, law215 said:

    You make valid points. It a matter of do you believe the Ravens have 'holes' or lack 'difference makers'
    I believe Ravens had 11 picks last year. There are multiple guys currently on the team at just about every position.But they are 'just guys'. Ravens need difference makers not picks to fill holes.
    Bengals beat us cause they have difference makers AJ Green, Benard, Boyd, Eifort
    Steelers win cause they have difference makers Brown, Bell
    We may split games with them, but they will win more games cause they have players that make the difference. I don't see that on the Ravens.
    In fact, they lost Smith Sr and Dummervil. If they can't win more than 8 games with them, you need top talent to replace them

    I believe we lack difference makers and have holes. 

    You cant have a difference maker at every position.  The Steelers have difference makes, but where do you think they got Brown from?  He was a late round flier.  I find ironic that you use Bell, Brown, boyd, Benard as examples, who none were drafted in the first round, which basically goes against your point Yes you reduce the risk of taking a bust the earlier you pick, but you also want as numerous picks as possible because as time has shown, picking early in the first doesn't guarantee anything. 

    Don't get me wrong, im not disagreeing with you.  If Mwilliams, Davis, Barnett are available, definitely grab one of them, I would hate to have to pick between the three but would most likely go Mwilliams considering how deep this draft is defensively.  But if all three are gone I am more than ok with trading back 6 spots with the Dolphins (example) because they value a DB still on the board and we pick up say, a third.  With the amount of talent in this draft, I want more picks, unlike last year, it was a weak draft

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    1 minute ago, Tank 92 said:

    Negative, not in a couple of years. 

    I don't do much FF either, just when travelling, but got hooked when my nephew and his fiance had an In n Out truck cater their "night before the wedding" party.   Longboard on tap and cooked to order burgers and fries at the Newport Harbor Lawn Bowling Club. It was a blast! Although I never did really get the hang of rolling those wobbly balls.  lol 

    I assume you tried it animal style? 

    What part of cali were you in?

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    45 minutes ago, law215 said:

    IMO, trading back works when you already have a good team and need additional picks for depth and future. A team that missed the playoffs and have not won the divison should play the percentages and take the BPA

    I completely disagree.  A team with numerous holes is a team that should try to get....numerous picks. 

    26 minutes ago, law215 said:

    Why in such a deep draft would someone give up picks to us?
    Wouldn't they use their picks to obtain many players too?
    And if they did, who is this great player they are willing part with picks to secure ?

    A team that values a different player than us because they have different needs.  Perfect example Is the Raiders, a team that is a legit contender and some consider the only team that can challenge the Pats.  They need help in the secondary so if a DB is available that they think will put them over the edge, they will want to move up and make that push.  Each team is in a different situation.  Its like you are comparing draft needs from the Browns to the Pats, every team has different needs therefore values players differently. 

     

    14 minutes ago, BiggMack91 said:

    i don't see us trading back and imo we are going after an offensive playmaker (WR) still would like to see us pick up mack RB from florida in the 2nd or third and if pat eflien is there in the second take him i wouldn't even mind moving up for him and get banner in the 3-4 round to play LG our offense would be almost as good as our D

    This forum will explode if we trade back with Mwilliams or Corey Davis on the board, i might be one of those guys.  But adding a RB and a LG (rookies) would in no way make our offense on par with our defense. 

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    2 minutes ago, Tank 92 said:

    Yeah, OK.  I'm in Cali as a visitor so it was only hyped to me by relatives.  I have to say though that it's the best FF I've had.  

    I guess since I don't really eat FF it just doesn't do anything for me.  But people here Cali act like if you don't like it, your a sinner. 

    You are in Cali now?

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    5 minutes ago, rossihunter2 said:

     

    i mean if shanahan is confident that he can stop hyde from bouncing runs to the outside every snap then i dont think there's any way they get rid of him tbh - the reports of him being on the hot seat are ridiculous given the fact that shanahan hasn't even worked with him yet.. the injuries might be a problem but he also has star quality - it would seem stupid for such a talent poor team to try and fill a hole that's mostly full already

    free agency next year is a compelling argument i suppose but i just think there's too much value at other positions of need for them to pass up - especially with the running back talent in next year's draft at the top

    I agree with you in the sense that it wouldn't be who I would draft in their position. 

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    19 minutes ago, trevorsteadman said:

    I think if they are smart they go Adams. By far more talented than Fournette. I know it is a position that would impact this team more day one if they got Fournette, but I really hope they pick the better player in Adams. They should know by now it will be a 2-3 year process to turn that team around.

     

    12 minutes ago, rossihunter2 said:

    i just cant see that - they have carlos hyde already there who has been phenomenal in spurts and they have so many needs at other positions that i cant see them passing over adams, thomas, allen, hooker for a running back even if it is fournette - i think the bears could be a darkhorse if they fall in love with him despite having jordan howard because it would help out mike glennon but i dont think fournette legitimately has a chance to go before jax unless a team trades up to get ahead of jax like the panthers or jets

    Yea I agree they shouldn't go that route, but with the HC there, not to mention Hyde has never played a full season and will be a FA next year.  Just a hunch but definitely wouldn't be my pick with the type of defensive guys in this draft

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    51 minutes ago, jazz1988 said:

    Gronk is also coming off his third surgery concerning his back. I think this  may had some involvement on why The Patriots traded for a tight end  and Brandin Cook

    Over under in how many games Gronk plays this year at 8?

    Ill go over, but I still think he misses time

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    6 minutes ago, PurpleHorseman said:

    You talk like it's a bad idea. You don't like 27 yr old All pro playmakers??Adding Gronk makes no sense? If he were 33 yrs old and cut then it would make sense right?? Cite who?? Seriously?? Google Gronk Trade and see what you find. Not saying it's going to happen but Belichick is making a lot of moves. He could be changing the offense altogether. How do you fit in all those weapons. Edelman, Hogan, The ascending Mitchell, Allen, Cooks, Gronk. Similar to when Moss was traded when Gronk/Hernandez arrived and patriots moved to a 2TE offense.

    I dont think he was saying Gronk would never be traded, correct me if im wrong @BOLDnPurPnBlacK, hes saying that we wont trade for him and i completely agree. 

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    8 minutes ago, PurpleHorseman said:

    Patriots won without him. And with latest injury Belichick may want to unload his salary. Not likely. But many are speculating Belichick at least considering trading Gronk. With injuries he will not command round1 pick. A round2 could maybe pull it off. Whatever the % chance is. Adding Gronk would be awesome for the offense.

    Dont you think if BB wants to get rid of a player, there is a pretty good damn reason why? A lot of things would be awesome, like talking to my dog, but the chances are about the same and honestly talking to my dog might be easier.  

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    2 minutes ago, PurpleHorseman said:

    Why do you say zero chance?? Patriots won without him(granted lot of luck involved) and Bill Belichick more or less tolerates Gronks style. Bill didn't like his latest antics getting involved in wwe wrestle mania. His style fits ravens more than patriots. Don't mistake his partying for drama players. Gronk is the first to practice and train and the last to leave. The dude works harder than even Tom Brady. May not trade him to rival but Belichick can be pretty arrogant and trade him then try to contain him!!

    I have zero issues with his partying because its all in good fun, now if a story came out where he gets a little rough with women, thats when stuff becomes an issue.  But...

    1) Health issues.  I think the kids body is breaking down.  Imagine if we traded for him then he gets hurt, this forum would be outraged.  The Ravens didnt draft him when he had health concerns, why would they trade for him when he has shown those concerns to be true

    3) The Contract.

    4) I dont think anyone actually thinks he works harder than Brady. 

    5) i just dont think there is any reality to this.  Why dont we just trade for Julio?  its all fun to play madden, but id bet whatever that this never happens.  obviosuly lol

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    The great thing about the NFL is that most teams have a shot to win it all the way.  We were 500 last year and we were close to the playoffs regardless of how we looked, so with the improvements made, Joe's injury, new players added, i do think we can compete for the division still.  And you know what they say, just have to get to the dance then make some noise.  Look how bad we looked at the end of the year during our last SB.  A rebuilding team wont be competing for a division

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    3 minutes ago, LosT_in_TranSlatioN said:

    At In N Out I could order a double double with fries and a shake for $6. The value is virtually unbeatable. 

    Especially with a liter of cola

    In N Out is over-rated.... Bring it on

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    6 minutes ago, PurpleHorseman said:

    Back to bold predictions. We trade round4 and round 3 next year pick for Gronk on draft day. I think a good chance we add a vet like a Duane Brown Jeremy Maclin and maybe Gronk

    I know this is a bold prediction thread, but there is zero chance we get Gronk lol.  But i like your thinking, kind of lol

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