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1 minute ago, Drew P said:

Bowser went in the 6th? steal

He is predicting a players career before he has even played a snap basically, some would call this premature... Or foolish. Or both.  Maybe he does nothing, maybe he does something.... Time will be the only way to tell,  so logically we should give him time, but logic isn't a common attribute around here.

4 minutes ago, jdynamite said:

Antonio Brown 6th round 

pierre Garçon 6th round 

M.Hasselbeck 6th round 

Marcus Colston 7th round 

donald driver 6th round 

alfred Morris 6th round

 

Point being doesn't have to be Tom Brady type of great to make an impact on a team but some really good players can come from the 6th and 7th round and even undrafted FA as we all know. 

So don't be so hard on people still hoping for playmakers in the late rounds. 

Im glad you already know the result of Clark's career.  Can you please tell me what Bowser turns into?

The negativity is so hilarious. I don't where I'll get my comedy when this shuts down

Just now, Cville-Raven said:

It's pretty hilarious. Like 6th rounders are really going to make or break a draft.

Yea, I get that everyone has players they wanted, but sometimes we forget just how important role players are, because they aren't the sexy pick

I Love how mad some people are getting, Irs very comical to me. I'm stoked about our draft

1 hour ago, rmw10 said:

Ya'll already know this is one of my prospect crushes this year, so I'm pumped!  A versatile, athletic piece that should be able to play all over our LB group.  Consider me the president of the fan club!

Im right there with you. This was a guy I kept bringing up as my main guy.  Love it!

41 minutes ago, PurpleHorseman said:

Changing your belief after ravens player picked?? Who are the players you think are the best or fit the best that's left on board?? Or you gonna wait til ravens pick and say he was the BPA . Who do you like best now that's available?? Who are the players you believe are the 10 best available with data you collected?? Not after ravens pick and say well this guy said he was a top 10 player. Who you like now?

 Just because you have player X rated at 25, it's not unreasonable to think the Ravens fo values  player X differently than you, actually it's more likely.  The discussion about value is pointless really, because none of us know what the Ravens FO has the players valued at.

20 minutes ago, Purple_City39 said:

Thank you.  This whole "They didn't get the player I like so we suck and we're rebuilding" mindset gets old quick

Yup.  I didn't want Humphrey, but I get it and if they think he can be a healthy Jimmy, I'd be stoked. 

8 minutes ago, Sami84 said:

Williams will be but we'll avoid him like a plague

Maybe, but he is from Alabama

3 minutes ago, Dewy101 said:

Idk if he provides instant pass rush like guys like Lawson and Williams. Lawson has his injury concerns and Williams has his off field problems. Really like what I saw from Bowser at the senior bowl though

Yea I'd like Williams or Lawson first.  Bowser has good coverage skills.  Sadly I think they won't be available

9 minutes ago, jazz1988 said:

I like him but I don't think he will make it to our pick. 

I Just didn't read about him much h, I like bowser.  As much as I want to keep adding defense, we really need help on the O side

WHat about Zack Cunningham? I know we need ol and wr, but some people had a first round grade on him.  I don't know much about him

Nothing we have done says this is a rebuilding

I Just love the over-reaction.  And all this talk about value.  Obviously you can disagree with the picture because of value, but that's your value.  We don't what the FO valued him as.  

Tyus Bowser please 

1 minute ago, ravensnation5220 said:

Cam Robinson will make this board crash  😂 then they wont have to close it

I Won't like the pick, but judging it now would be foolish.  Can't believe it's shutting down

2 hours ago, Swish said:

if we take cam i am becoming a steelers fan

Whats up over-reaction

And people say he was dumb.....

3 hours ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

Then nobody should ever do mock drafts I guess

Just like no one should ever respond to him, but alas.....

Love it man. Those first four picks i think would be huge for both sides of the ball for us.  Ill check out the other guys as well.  I like how you went different routes then most.  I prefer Mwill over Davis but i would be more than happy considering the rest of the draft.  Hope you nailed it. 

1 hour ago, Drew P said:

I clearly stated Whom COULDN'T hit when you get a ton of mid round comp. picks each year?

And I didnt pay Joe big $ the FO did so apparently some circles think highly of him

So Your saying we don't hit on mid round comp picks But we do on regular mid round picks? Im guessing your going to elude to the fact whats the point of collecting comp picks when we don't hit, which I guess you can make the case for, I just think the premise would be wrong.  Or maybe im not comprehending your point. 

Or some people just understand what market value means, ironic how most people who don't like Joe don't understand the market value premise.  While those who support Joe do understand market value, that doesn't mean/imply he is elite their minds.  The number one player at a position as far as talent might be the highest paid player for a year, then because of inflation of the salary cap, someone else signs a deal who makes them higher paid. 

55 minutes ago, robbie29 said:

Amusing sarcasm. There are also these things called injuries. These injuries have had a terrible impact on the Ravens in recent years. Watson, Suggs, J Smith, Perriman...the list goes on. When you also consider the Ravens have 1 playoff appearance in the last 4 years, and their combined record in that same span is below .500- the proof is right there that they are NOT a good team.

While I agree with injuries having a huge impact, there isn't a significant way to prepare for those injuries other than doing what every team already tries to do: sign the best possible players and then add the best depth players possible.  While I agree we have underperformed 3 out of the last 4 years (hard no to agree compared to the standards set previously), I think most fans forget the amount of change that can take place from year to year, good and bad.  We have made some good additions this offseason as almost every analyst would agree upon, we also still have the draft coming up (as my sarcasm remarks made clear), so imo most fans want love to throw around the phrase "Not For Long" league only when it comes to bashing but choose to ignore the upside of "Not For Long." 

While you may think we are not a good team, what we finished the last 3 out 4 years really doesn't matter, but last year can be used as a basis.  We may have been 8 and 8 but its not like we were completely out of contention.  I honestly believe that if Jimmy doesn't go down, we would of made the playoffs, which eluded to your point of injuries.  So what did we do?  Signed the best DB FA on the market.  Signed a more than capable #2 corner who has started every game for 9 years.  We signed Webb for depth, which I find absolutely hilarious that people bash that signing.  We have Young who is a promising young CB.  I know there is concerns about Jimmy's health, but I don't think there is any reason not be excited with the secondary we will field.

I will say that the pass rush situation worries me as well as the OL. 

I believe im a realist and I see no reason why we cant compete, even at 8-8, that's competing.  Don't confuse your standard of success to the actual act of succeeding, Meaning: So what if we go 8-8 and squeak into the playoffs, so what if we don't win the division but still make the playoffs, playoffs mean we have a chance to go all the way.  Just because we don't go 12-4 every year doesn't mean we aren't a good time. 

12 minutes ago, Chuckx999 said:

Lets face it, "GOOD" teams don't care who they play because they expect to "WIN".
We aren't a good team yet. O line??? WR's ??? TE's ??? RB ??? Pass Rushers ???
Mosley and Suggs at LB are OK but those just two can't do it themselves. Secondary should be better, maybe???

I wish there was this annual thing where we selected players from college.

I also wish there were players that are able to play in the NFL but aren't on a team right now that we could sign whenever we want.

34 minutes ago, Drew P said:

Here comes the "they are pumped" on Skura comments

Im an optimistic person, but when someone brought him up as a solution to our problem on the line, I thought it was hysterical.  I hope im wrong though, seriously. 

3 hours ago, Drew P said:

Again, you go off on some tangent and put words down I never did.

Just because someone gets paid doesn't make them the "best".

All teams hit on UDFA's some better than others. One reason the Ravens jump out are most likely you are hyper focused on the Ravens.

Point is if Oz is so great and they have a elite QB they should be able to beat the Bungles and at least sniff the playoffs.

Joey 'went off' because you stated Oz cant find mid round picks which is something that is considered his most successful area by almost everyone.  Hell, even on here, haters of Oz have even said might as well trade our first and second so we can stack up the mid rounds where Oz kills it.  I get the point your trying to make and I think others do, but then you say stuff that's just not true or contradicts your points. 

Once again, who said we have an elite QB? Does anyone on here even think that?  Im a big Joe supporter....he is not elite.

And I don't get how we aren't sniffing the playoffs, sometimes there is a difference between being optimistic and realistic, but I believe the Ravens making the playoffs falls into both categories here and I think its harder to argue that we have a lesser chance than more of a chance. 

Nice job.  I like that you did the full first round, as im sure people have seen me note that for mocks I think its important for context to see who is available at least in the first round when we select.  I would be overall happy with this draft considering the positions taken, although im not to familiar with some of the names.  Some people might not like this draft because there isn't any 'sexy big name' guys but I would think this would be a solid draft. 

Im sure you have discussed in other threads, but what would be your preference for 1 and 2?