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Joey 'went off' because you stated Oz cant find mid round picks which is something that is considered his most successful area by almost everyone. Hell, even on here, haters of Oz have even said might as well trade our first and second so we can stack up the mid rounds where Oz kills it. I get the point your trying to make and I think others do, but then you say stuff that's just not true or contradicts your points. Once again, who said we have an elite QB? Does anyone on here even think that? Im a big Joe supporter....he is not elite. And I don't get how we aren't sniffing the playoffs, sometimes there is a difference between being optimistic and realistic, but I believe the Ravens making the playoffs falls into both categories here and I think its harder to argue that we have a lesser chance than more of a chance.

Nice job. I like that you did the full first round, as im sure people have seen me note that for mocks I think its important for context to see who is available at least in the first round when we select. I would be overall happy with this draft considering the positions taken, although im not to familiar with some of the names. Some people might not like this draft because there isn't any 'sexy big name' guys but I would think this would be a solid draft. Im sure you have discussed in other threads, but what would be your preference for 1 and 2?

Oh the irony

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Talk about trading back. If this scenario happened id be happy with getting Davis in the late 20s, but that's not happening. The rest isn't great with the amount of picks imo. Not a fan of Anderson http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/2017-nfl-seven-round-mock-draft-every-pick-trade-and-draft-class-for-all-32-teams/

It all depends on who we go in the first. If we take Mwill or Davis in the first and Tim Williams-Carl Lawson-Watt I would think about it, but most likely would stay put. \ There is just so much potential in this draft that I would hate to lose picks, but...just depends who is available and who we take in the first. My preference would be Mwill/davis then Tim Williams or Lawson, but doubt either will be there for our second unless we trade up. I know we are speaking in hypotheticals for the sake of discussion, there is just too many variables for me to be sure what id rather do. Also, if Cook is there in the second, that would be hard to turn down, but I believe in no way in hell Cook makes it past 20

I like everyone on that list other than Anderson, just not a fan, maybe some here can convince me I see a lot of people on here aren't a fan of Takk. Very intriguing options

Yup. I think it could have be A LOT better. Hand of God is interesting. Betas is a Silicon Valley type show, not a bad watch, pretty funny. Mad Dogs I recommend Sneaky Pete, Aaron Paul, good watch. Fortitude is another one that I recently watched, its pretty interesting. Amazon is killing it.

Yea, loved that show. Definitely underrated

Yea, its also just a good way to fill the void of actual sports news.

I think I just finished 3. Normally three is my number of episodes to see if ill continue. Especially right now with Billions, House of Cards, Americans, Fargo, and Better Call Saul on.

I gave it a couple episodes, am I missing something? How much time do I need to sink in it? Im interested in the reason why what happened occurred, but everything else to me is just bleh...

Also, I tried to elaborate on this one time, but I cant find the right words. The word 'value' I think is honestly overblown, don't get me wrong, I understand the premise. Lets use Charles Harris for this example If the FO thinks Harris can be the next Suggs for us and be a dominant force on this defense. The draft 'experts' big board has him at 29 best player and we take him at 16. Our FO is going to get killed because of how early he was drafted, but yet, we don't know what value we put on Harris. So even though everyone thinks we over-drafted Harris, we took him to give us the same production as Suggs, therefore the 'value' to us would easily be worth it. Does that make sense? its been a long day

Dallas was a very good team, yes their defense needs improvement but you hardly every see a defense on par with offense. They had a very good offense so the defense logically wont be as good. They just got outplayed by a QB who will go down as one of the best. That throw...

Another example of Hernandez not getting both feet on the ground to make a legitimate catch

I would love this draft, I wont comment on value because it will obviously vary drastically. I am more of a Mwill guy, but I do like Davis and would welcome either. I will most likely punt a baby seal if we take Ross. Bowser is a guy I have really started to like, I hope he is on our roster Perine is a guy I talked a lot about last. I would be stoked about this draft for sure.

Im no detective, but something tells me you like Jake Butt and....you cannot lie. Best case, first 2 rounds, id be pretty happy already and the rest is just extra. We would be building a very young corps and I think would be pretty dominant.

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I will start by saying I was a server for about 7 years before I joined the Marines. When I got out, I moved to Fort Myers, FL and became a server at a very popular restaurant on a spring break beach (so many stories from those 2 years, but it would be impossible to tell them in a PG form), I loved being a server, so I know the life style and I know what its like to be swamped with a lot of tables. That being said, I expect good service. I can tell when people are busy, people who have never worked in the industry may not understand what its like. Good service Ill normally leave 20%, if its great service all around, ill hook them up. I have high standards for servers. When I was stationed in Pensacola, Fl for some trainging in the Marines, my wife at the time and our friends were in visiting and we all went out to the beach and was going to eat later. While we were on the beach we saw an advertisement for all you can eat crab legs (hard to find whole crab most places) so obviously we were down for this. Its a decent drive from where we were at on the beach so I give the restaurant a call just to confirm prices, wait time, ask about the crab leg deal, etc....Everything was good to go. Get to the restaurant, have signs for their all you can eat crab legs as soon as you walk in, we get seated and the group of us order drinks and some appetizers; shrimp, oysters, etc Waitress comes back to take our order (im sure you can see whats about to happen) and we all say the crab legs. Shockingly, no crab legs. At this point im pretty frustrated and ask to talk to the manager, explain the situation and basically was told too bad. Not even 10% off on appetizers, which isn't a lot but at least that would of been an effort to try to fix the situation. But no. We ended up driving back to the exact same spot we were at and just picked another place. Easily the worst experience on dining out.

True, I just believe it leaves a lot of important details out. Also, the thing about 'value' is that everyone values certain players differently.

Yea, I took off work one time to watch it and get drunk....and we traded out. To make it worse, it was for Upshaw. So whats your plan? Fire John, OZ, Decosta? DC and OC? who would you hire? No one wants to be average, but it sounds like your making excuses continuously to stay average when we have clearly already made good moves (on paper) and the draft is still to come. You need to step up your whining, not even trying anymore It blows my mind how some fans on here think this offseason hasn't been anything but awesome for us. I would of rather kept Wagner but im glad we kept one of the two main FAs. Its a catch 22 on here with fans: " we never sign any big FAs! always dumpster diving for bargains for comp picks!" Then we go sign the best safety available (two years in a row) and now we overpaid and made a bad signing, its hilarious

Don't get me wrong, Mike Williams is who I want. I also don't think he will be available What next 4 pass rushers in your opinion after Barnett?

I know right. The sky is falling. If only we were making changes on the roster and signing playmakers. They should also come up with this thing where we can pick younger players before they make the NFL. You are making such good points. I think you have swayed me

Really need context to judge drafts with any type of informed opinion. Who all were the first 15 picks? Then who was available after the trade-back when we took Bolles? Id be happy with us building the OL, but im just not a fan of Anderson. Its hard not to be happy building the OL, but even then there isnt much to get excited here for me. One thing i will say, like i stated above, i dont get people who do mock drafts but yet dont at least list the players off the board. Not saying to do a full player to team description, but without knowing who is available its hard to say if the trade back was worth it.

I honestly think that Barnett would be listed as the first defensive guy, of said players. Even though Jsmith has an injury history, but he is still under 30. We also brought in Carr, Young looks promising as well. Pass rush to me would be higher on our list considering we let Doom go (still could bring him back) and Suggs is pretty close to done, maybe 2 more years-ish. Also, with the amount of good DBs in this draft, i think we go pass rusher first and grab a DB later.