SteelersProphet

yea that exactly......I know it has been maligned recently as the worst line in this draft but since I got them all at the back of the draft(except for Mack) im actually pretty happy with it

I dont have decastro....I wanted him but he was taken... foster is great at pass protection....the reason he is not considered an elite guard is his run blocking but he has been really improving at that over last year and its not a weakness anymore and Mack is one of my favorite centers so I added leach because I wanted my run game down the middle to be solid and leach will overcome any weakness foster might still have with the run game....and my third guard will be one of two people(hopefully) that will also help running up the middle

oh I know you weren't knocking my O-line I was just using your post to comment on my O-line......I wanted a fullback that can help my run game....because if I can get a push up the middle it will stop defenses from exploiting my tackles to the outside....and my two pieces in the middle are solid and I have my eyes on a third that I like........ben will exploit outside rushers if he has a strong middle.......that's his weakness down the middle pass rushers and im solid in the middle

my tackles could play great this year......a lot of people have high hopes for them at their new positions my center is fantastic and my one guard so far is a great pass protector........and now I have leach who can help block if my tackles are getting beat......this setup is one of the best lines ben has ever had......also if the other teams blitz on the outside ben will just step inside and throw to one of my many reliable receivers it will be hard to cover all of them while blitzing...and eventually the other team will stop trying

lol thanks

my pick is in....you guys know why I like him I don't have to explain I thought he was great value here

I posted in your post

on my o-line you mean....if your including holmes he will be fine reunited with ben....my WR'S are a team none of them are perfect but they are good at what they do...and together they can do what any perfect WR can do the only question on my offense is my line....but they are good enough....I think webb and martin will be much improved this year and my defense has one rookie which I don't think is a question mark(but some might) and troy who people think doesn't have it anymore but they are wrong...and clark is old but im not the only one with one or two year rentals in certain spots

how is my D old I only have three over 30....my 5 on my front seven are all young and I have no pass rush.......my three linebackers are all great(Jarvis will be a star) my NT eats up blockers and heyward is a force up the middle...I have a great up the middle pass rush developing....and my OL isn't awful......but you know we disagree there also I would put my team ahead of a lot of the teams you have ranked ahead of me

yea Grim said he was going with him......he will keep Ray safe

ME TOO!!!!! maybe ill see you there

im ready to pick as soon as im up

lol yay.......don't rule it out I have a couple rounds left to take that bottom spot

uh oh im in trouble...lol we all know how you feel about my team......

doesn't he already have a team.....

I know....but as you argued earlier in the rookie safety debate....some people think he will work great there and im one of them....so its not an opinion that is unique to me

also im not the only one who thinks martin will be better on the left side,,,its the position he would rather play http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000206543/article/teammate-jonathan-martin-more-fluid-at-left-tackle I think he will grow to be a fine tackle he is still young yet...he has potential

well I don't think mine is as bad as you and gabe do so this exercise is futile because who ever I pick(which I don't feel comfortable doing)will be judged against your wrong(IMO) view of my line which will just bring it back to the discussion we are having now

of course not our defense was great.....but it wasn't in that superbowl...it got torched by warner....ben and holmes(reunited on my team by the way) took that defense apart edit....also the point is his offense operated with a terrible line

I think you dont remember how bad our line was in 2008.........because if you did theres no way you would say that mine is worse also I completely disagree my line is the worst in the draft.....but as usual me and you have polar opposite opinions so this is no surprise agree to disagree

I like the triplets of Jackson, Bowe and Cutler....I think they are a great combo

thank you......I was thinking along those lines

but the point you seem to be avoiding is that ben HAS been successful with much worse......in addition to those horrible tackles he also had a terrible center.....remember Justin Hartwig.....he was horrible...and instead of a horrible center I have a fantastic one and he won a superbowl....so my line wont stop ben from throwing to his weapons

if I had to choose between martin and webb or starks and colon I would choose webb and martin hands down.....starks had no footwork...sometimes he wouldn't move at all and the linebacker would run right around him.....and colon was a false start machine who sometimes would completely give up after the initial burst from the defense......and ben won a superbowl with that combo it wont negate the fact that I have amazing weapons......would I prefer all top ten players filling every position sure but no one has that

they were both playing positions not as suited to them. martin on the right and webb on the left im playing them opposite.....also webb had a few early terrible games but improved as the year went on. and he is better than max starks who always seems to be bens tackle so bens used to mediocre tackle play...but I never said they were my strength they are not...but they are good enough to allow my offense to operate properly