Rants N Ravens

16 minutes ago, rmcjacket23 said:

1. You posted this four times. Delete some of them.

2. You did classify Perriman in your "miss" section along with guys like Kindle or Cody. Its never wise to classify somebody as a "miss" after one season. You backpedaled on it after the fact by saying they didn't get bang for their buck in year 1.

I would also caution that there are some instances where a team drafts a player with zero intentions of that player playing that season. You can go back to the days of Aaron Rodgers (though those don't really happen anymore), but you don't even have to go back that far. There are plenty of teams who take late 1st round picks as "projects" who are merely backup players who may not even play in year 1.

Bengals took Cedric Ogbuehi in the first round this past season. He played in only five games and played only 65 snaps, and that was more than they were expecting out of him.

I doubt teams like the Bears think Kevin White is a "miss". Neither should we.

I was replying to the individuals who all posted the same response to my original post.  I'm not back-pedaling at all on Perriman, I said what I meant.  He was a "miss" as far as last year goes.  The Ravens clearly drafted him that high with hopes he'd help make up for the loss of Torrey Smith.  By him getting injured, he didn't play a down and thus did not remotely do what they hoped he would.  That is a miss.  I wasn't nor am I now saying he's a long-term miss.  He was a miss last year.  Comparing his situation to Rodgers is way off the mark; the Packers weren't trying to replace a HOF QB at that time; they were drafting his eventual successor.  Perriman wasn't being drafted to sit for a year or two; he was drafted to immediately become the team's deep threat.

21 hours ago, eze17 said:

Lets not forget the Raven's also drafted Pitta, mosley, J. smith, Wagner & B. williams, not to mention those who've left via FO (KO standing out this year) during that same time. All teams are going to have their hits and misses.
And I agree that Perriman should be given the benefit of the doubt. Lets see what he can do healthy before we put the "bust" tag on him.

Apparently you didn't read this part?

"the Ravens didn't get as much bang for their initial buck as I'm sure they were hoping."

Meaning Perriman made ZERO contribution his rookie year, something all teams expect from first round draft picks.  That's all I was saying.  Never said he is a bust.  Of course I'm hoping he goes on to have a great career.

21 hours ago, BOLDnPurPnBlacK said:

Perriman was injured his rookie year. Don't include him - its a freak thing that the FO has no control over. Dude could turn out to be Jerry Rice for all we know... and thats just it - we dont know yet. So you cant include him in any final analysis of draft pick contributions.

Apparently you didn't read this part?

"the Ravens didn't get as much bang for their initial buck as I'm sure they were hoping."

Meaning Perriman made ZERO contribution his rookie year, something all teams expect from first round draft picks.  That's all I was saying.  Of course I'm hoping he goes on to have a great career.

21 hours ago, 757RavensFan said:

Perriman is not the 1st nor will he be the last first round draft pick who missed their rookie season due to injury.  He shouldn't even be included on your list. 

Apparently you didn't read this part?

"the Ravens didn't get as much bang for their initial buck as I'm sure they were hoping."

Meaning Perriman made ZERO contribution his rookie year, something all teams expect from first round draft picks.  That's all I was saying.  Of course I'm hoping he goes on to have a great career.

21 hours ago, mc_red23 said:

Perriman? Give me a break! He's been injured for a year, for all you know he could go on to have a great career. 

Apparently you didn't read this part?

"the Ravens didn't get as much bang for their initial buck as I'm sure they were hoping."

Meaning Perriman made ZERO contribution his rookie year, something all teams expect from first round draft picks.  That's all I was saying.  Of course I'm hoping he goes on to have a great career.

Gotta hit on this draft to set ourselves up for the next 4 to 5 seasons. We can't afford more misses like Kindle, Cody, Upshaw, Elam, Arthur Brown, or even Perriman for that matter with our top picks. And yes I realize Upshaw was a contributor and Perriman can still develop, but when you consider how high they were picked compared with their immediate contributions...the Ravens didn't get as much bang for their initial buck as I'm sure they were hoping.

"PFF Says Ravens Should Target RGIII"

Bahahahahahah oh wow

^^^ This, all day!

Anyone watching Monday night saw why Harbs has to be regarded as one of the best head coaches in the league. To have your guys playing so hard, for nothing more than pride, is a resounding endorsement of your head coach's abilities.

Special guy, and hopefully a special back as well.

Not sure who, but somebody needs to get fired.

so that james guy wasn't signed after all?

Guess here is he will take Urban's spot once they put Brent on the IR-designated to return list.

Monroe's post about Yanda is awesome in so many ways. If I were him, I wouldn't be on social media either. Smart man!

Get healthy guys, the regular season is right around the corner.

Ryan, Ive seen your haircut. That DEFINITLY is not your haircut!

I'm with sami on this one.  Joe's is more Adam Levine-ish:

Ryan's is more Macklemore-ish (a FB friend of mine pointed that out, so giving him credit here):

Heck, if Ryan lightened his hair, the above could pass for a picture of him!

Oh my

Is the defensive line going to be this years secondary? While it appeared we were deep enough to absorb the loss of Ngata, here we go again with the injuries. Ozzie said we would never be caught again like we were caught last year with the secondary but yet here we go with the defensive line collapsing like a house of cards in a typhoon. I know training camp is to weed out and deal with injuries, but one more hard practice like we had last Thursday and we may not have 11 people left to put out on the field in both directions. I know we need to get these guys ready to hit before the first preseason game and I am not qualified to second guess Harbaugh but (and there is always a but) we cant afford to do that.

Guys can get hurt slipping on a sidewalk (Bryant McKinnie anyone?).  I'd rather weed out the guys who can't stay healthy now, with hard practices, than get caught with our pants down during the regular season.  Remember, no practice is ever going to be as hard as the real games, and other teams are going to cut good players, just like the Ravens are going to cut good wide receivers.  I believe you have a much better chance of back-filling a need with a quality player prior to the regular season than you do once all the rosters are set.  Sure you can pick a guy off of someone's practice squad, but I'm referring to just after the final wave of cuts when teams will swap out guys for their final active rosters last-minute, based on who they think best fit their needs.

Our yes is yes and our no is no. The media never understands or accepts that, because it's just not good for hits, view, etc.

How can you not love Harbs? Unless of course you're not a Ravens fan, I guess. LOL!

Name one Ravens FA "who got away" outside of Priest Holmes who went on to do way bigger-n-better things than they did with the Ravens prior to departing?

Thought so...

I sure hope he's right.

We'll never know what Brady would like like without Bellicheat, but we will be able to see how the Deflatriots and Hoodie do without Brady.  I'm looking forward to it personally, as I fully expect to still have Harbs and Joe Cool leading our Ravens to playoff victories while those Boston blowhards become nothing more than "chowda."  

I tried telling JoeyFlex5 that Tom doesnt have a deep ball and Tom's overrated. Like Tannehill. He went on a long rant why Tom is a beast. If you take away those short throws then he isnt much.

That's like saying take away Ray Lewis' tackles made beyond the line of scrimmage, he wasn't much.  LOL!  Players make plays on the field.  Granted, you need good coaches to coach up developmental guys and scheme both for and during games, but the players are the ones who have to execute the X's and O's.  Yes, you've got to hand it to Bellicheat for knowing to throw like crazy vs. us in the playoffs then turn around and run like crazy vs. the Colts, but his players (especially Brady against us), had to make the plays happen.  I dislike Brady as much as the next non-Patriots fans, but you can't honestly diminish or deny his consistent success at winning games from the QB position.  Now you can argue that I can't deny Bellicheat's success either, which I certainly cant...but I'll stick by my notion that it's had to do more with Brady than him, regardless of Cassell's one fluke year.

The Patriots went 11-5 with Matt Cassel. The next year, with Brady, they went.....11-5. Brady is far more overrated than Belichick. Brady "won" 3 SBs with game manager stats. He's never been able to make tough throws consistently, but he's almost always put in situations where he can get quick, easy completions and cover up his weaknesses. That's a sign of great coaching. Until last year, when he got to take advantage of a bunch of injury depleted defenses, Brady never did much in the postseason. It was the defense shutting down Warner's Rams and Manning's Colts(with help from cheating) that were the main factors in their SBs.

Time will tell...but I'm not sold on Bellicheat's genius, sorry.

Bellicheat was an absolute JOKE in cLEAVEland and anyone who followed the Clowns (like I sadly did) back then knows it. After riding on Parcells' coat-tails a few years he hitched his wagon to Tom Brady and hasn't looked back. The majority of the time all "great" coaches had all-star QBs, and vice versa I suppose. Let's see how he does once the Golden Boy hangs 'em up.

No mention of Myers and the versatility of Urshal. Both of these players should be considered .

The article is about offensive tackles; Urschel plays guard primarily and can play center, while Myers is a rookie guard prospect.