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  1. In the interview with Garrett Downing posted on the Ravens website, he said he "got the opportunity to play 1 more year". I was thinking he had just signed a 4-year deal, which Downing later questioned him about and termed a "prove it" year. The other nugget from that interview his set of reasons why he's never missed a game. I don't want to quote the whole explanation, which starts at 2:20 of the video here: http://www.baltimoreravens.com/news/article-1/Durability-A-Big-Part-Of-Why-Ravens-Signed-Brandon-Carr/22fa8bbd-f464-4aa6-9f27-a634c6dc1e8a I think there is a more simple explanation. As I mentioned in the article, Carr never sought contact in these games, particularly with running backs (11 tackles were 10 WR and 1 TE). He also didn't make any attempt to be 2nd man in and play for a strip or even tackle assist. To quote Deion Sanders: "Those shoulders are made for suits NOT Brandon Jacobs" To be fair, Jimmy Smith had 29 solo tackles in 2016, but only 1 against the run.
  2. Legitimate question. By "pure press" I simply meant that's the most important part of his game as a corner (but I see the semantic weakness of that term). He played at the LoS on the bulk of plays, even against Mike Evans, but used his hands much less against Evans. The bulk of his press coverage was man, but there were instances where he dropped to either the underneath zone or deep (in cover 3) after pressing.
  3. I reviewed Carr's 2016 play and posted analysis with (Q,T) references here: http://russellstreetreport.com/2017/03/20/filmstudy/ravens-brandon-carr/ Cliff notes: The Ravens are set for a big pass rush improvements from personnel in secondary Ball skills on defense are concentrated into just 4 players (Weddle, Young, Smith, Mosley), which is scary for a team that has gone from a historically bad INT total in 2015 to the NFL leading interception rate (3.11%) in 2016. Carr is a pure press corner who is selective in applying hands (more often vs smaller receivers) and stays with a receiver well in straight line coverage using bump-and-run techniques. Despite a coverage style which involves significant hip and elbow contact past 5 yards, Carr has reduced his penalties over 2014-16 from 12 to 6 to 3. He was penalized 3 times for DPI, but did not draw a single flag for iC or DH in 2016, which speaks to an understanding of how the game is called. Carr avoids tackling contact with RBs (or as 2nd man to the ball) to an extreme degree, which may be the secret to his durabilty. He played primarily RCB for the Cowboys, but with Claiborne out vs the Bucs in week 15, he followed Mike Evans on the bulk of plays. The team-friendly contract allows the Ravens to consider undervalued, developmental, or injured CBs in this year's draft.
  4. As a completely blown coverage, it should look like utter crap. Whatever you think of the play, you must see someone should have been following Hogan from the OLS to the ORS. Elam made the best of an awful situation by closing halfway, but he was not playing SCB. If you see plays where the Ravens have 10 on the field (or 9, like once in 2016--the only time in my 18-year database), you see players make on-the-fly adjustments like Elam did on that play. I respect that you're taking some time trying to review the play, but it doesn't seem like we're going to convince each other. Let's see what some other folks have to say. Does anyone know how to post the top view from Game Pass to You Tube? Will it last if posted under a certain time threshold?
  5. Weddle was the deep safety on the offensive left side, Elam was the deep safety on the ORS. Simple cover 2 with CBs screwing it up underneath. I answered your question, now have you reviewed the top view?
  6. 2 problems with this explanation: There were 2 receivers on Wright's side (the OLS) as the signals were being called (Hogan motioned from left to right). The play you diagram is for a heavy nickel set (3 safeties). Webb was playing SCB vs NE at this point in the game. He simply brain farted and forgot to move with the Receiver motioning to the slot right. But I'll tell you what. Find me another instance during the Pees era that meets the criteria: 3 WRs unbunched Nickel set with 3 CBs 2 of the 3 corners are stacked on 1 receiver It simply doesn't happen unless there is a [profanity deleted]up. You showed the broadcast video on Youtube. Do you have access to Game Pass? Coming from a big Webb fan (look at the tweet above) it's painfully obvious what happened.
  7. Was that the 2011 playoffs?
  8. I just watched the play on top view again and it's pretty obvious Webb failed to follow Hogan motioning from left to right. Take a look at the coaches film and you can see Elam simply realigns to make the best of a bad situation.
  9. 3 spread receivers? I'd like to see that if you can point out a specific play.
  10. In all the time I have watched film, I literally cannot recall a single instance where 2 corners (in a standard or nickel set) were stacked versus an unbunched 3-WR set. And if it were ever to be done, you can be sure Dean Pees wouldn't be the guy to revolutionize. Webb was absolutely out of position since Wright would have had to be a fish out of water in the slot instead of his normal RCB. Weddle should not have fallen on the sword for the play, but he probably thought it would help from a leadership perspective. The problem is that anyone reviewing the top view can see that while he did take a step in (bit on PA), the much bigger problem was the corner in the wrong spot.
  11. The TD by Hogan (who blew by Elam) was actually a misalignment by Webb. Weddle fell on the sword for biting on a fake, but the real problem was the Ravens had 2 corners (Wright and Webb) lined up on the outside left receiver. That's Wright's responsibility, so Webb (who was moved to play SCB in the game due to ineffectiveness of Powers) should have been on the slot right (Hogan). Elam attempted to compensate by lining up halfway between SCB and safety, but that did not work as we saw. Harbaugh kept the matter internal by imply saying words to the effect "We don't need to go into it, but that wasn't Elam's fault." It's painfully obvious from the top view on Game Pass that Webb was the guy out of position. Funny but sad story...Powers had played sooooo badly that game and against Tyler Boyd of Cincinnati that Webb replaced him at SCB. We score the positioning in the secondary during the game to simplify work afterwards. When Webb replaced Powers, I was so excited, I Tweeted the following about the move. Surprising that it was Webb and not Elam that made the blunder. Ken McKusick @FilmstudyRavens The #Ravens and Pees just made the change that may win tis game. Webb to SCB and Elam to S. Much better coverage of slot. 11:12pm · 12 Dec 2016 · TweetDeck VIEW TWEET ACTIVITY 8REPLIES 14RETWEETS 11LIKES Reply Retweet Like
  12. That's a great spot for Jefferson, who also could play deep some in 4/5-DB alignments. The problem is, Pees has used the dime just 148 snaps in his 5 year tenure. 49 of those came last season, but that's misleading, because 47 of those came with Mosley injured (and there was no other choice). He covers TEs man-to-man extremely well, including some big men in the games I watched and he switched well in zone underneath. Here is my piece on his play: http://russellstreetreport.com/2017/03/12/filmstudy/tony-jefferson-2016-review/ I invite you to review my notes and the coaches film, but he's not special as a deep safety, because he's not particularly instinctive, nor does he read the QB particularly well (I contend this is probably the biggest reason why his career PD and INT totals are so low). He does extremely well with defined man and zone reponsibilities.
  13. It's fairly obvious the State of the Ravens comments were directed at Zuttah. I don't think the Ravens can start 2017 with him starting at center with the interior DL size in the division with Shelton, Atkins, Hargrave. It would be nice to have some depth as well, but that's the spot that needs to be improved.
  14. Merry Christmas everyone. On the topic of Jensen vs. Ducasse, here are their cumulative scoring lines for the season as I graded it: Ducasse: 382 snaps, 334 blocks, 23 missed, 3.5 penetrations (responsibilities for run for a loss), 5.58 pressures, 4 QH, 1.83 sacks, 45 penalty yards, .70 points per play. I weighted the adjustments for quality of competition, highlights, etc by snaps and his is .04. Total .74. That would be a D at guard for an individual game. Individual game grades F, B-, A, D, D, F. Jensen: 251 snaps, 232 blocks, 14 missed, 1 penetration, 7.5 pressures, 2.17 QH, 1 sack, 15 penalty yards, .73 points per play. His snap weighted adjustment is .07, which is a function primarily of more highlight blocks per snap and the fact he didn't have a disastrous play like Ducasse (safety vs. NE) to wipe out one game's adjustment. Total .80. That would be a C at guard for an individual game. His individual game grades are F, B, B-, C. From my perspective, Jensen earned a continued chance at guard and should have been allowed to fail before Ducasse got a chance. He's imperfect, but Jensen (year 3) has significantly more upside than a 7th-year player like Ducasse. Jensen also offers more in terms of versatility. You can have qualms with my system on at least 3 levels: 1) The individual play grading is something for which I try to provide as much transparency as is possible, particularly in regards to significant downgrades. Watch along and come up with your own conclusions with (Q, T) references. 2) The weighting. That's the relativity of scoring between pass and run, relative charges for penalties, etc. 3) The biggest point, however, is something we don't discuss much. Specifically, I treat offensive line grading overwhelmingly as a "reduction from 1 system", like batting average or fielding percentage. So if you want to know how a player can earn enough "extra credit" to earn their way back to 1.00 after 20 yards of penalties, the answer is simply he can't do that any more than a baseball player can get back to a 1.000 batting average or fielding percentage. Those opportunities have been permanently squandered. Unlike most other positions in football, the OLman goes through a visible trial on virtually every play, so those opportunities have more in common with AB in baseball and the lineman must seek to minimize the impact of failure. This is the major difference between me and PFF. There really isn't a point in having a discussion about weighting unless we can agree that 3) is the correct approach and have at least made some attempt to go through 1) on a play-by-play basis to understand the methodology (regardless of play-by-play disagreement). There are some knowledgable OL people, be they former players, analysts, or observant fans on this site. I welcome discussion on how the OL should best be graded and would love to find a good live medium for that discussion among interested parties.
  15. I posted OL grades earlier today on RSR: http://russellstreetreport.com/2016/12/07/filmstudy/ol-grades-miami-tunsil-stanley/ Cliff Notes: Stanley .76 (B with adjustment) Tunsil .29 (F by .33 after adjustment) It was one of the worst games I have ever scored for a guard.