I was waffling on this one because Ben is out, but you make some compelling arguments. Plus the Ravens managed to lose to Charlie Batch and they had a much better team back then. If Ben is seriously injured, the AFCN just went from last year's three horse race to one of the worst divisions in the NFL. I never thought he stood a chance of playing that game, but now I know not to get too hopeful before the bye week. There's a chance that it might not be any worse than this game. The Ravens always roll over for the Bengals, but they show up for Pittsburgh. I think it will be worse than normal, but the defense might not have a significantly worse showing. After all, is Brown much better than Green? I don't think so, but even if he is he will have an inferior qb throwing to him. Bell is going to be ugly though. I fully expect more running due to Ben's injury so that 28 game (or whatever) record is going down.