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1 hour ago, allblackraven said:

Seriously, just how dense are you? 

Do what you want and watch what you want. 500 other people tell you don't ruin the thing they have going on every bloody year during NFL draft because they like it that way. We are not interested in getting announcements early from anybody because we like to watch the coverage together and talk about it while it's happening on OUR timeline. Who the hell are you to announce anything even after repeatedly being told not to?

Un-freaking (not exactly the first word that comes to mind) believable. 

If you don't want to discuss the picks when they are made I suggest google chat.  Everyone is supposed to wait 15 minutes because a few of you think you own the boards?  Maybe this is why the Ravens are shutting the forum down. You guys think this is your personal board.  Giving people negative votes when the main cliche who disagree with anything your group disagrees with.

i mean you make the dumbest post I ever read about how great it is Steelers fans appreciate us.  And I make a disagreement with it and the negative votes come out.  You guys are like three year olds.  No adult cares about down votes.  And the forum is closing in 4 days.  At least I won't have to ever read your post again. . 

1 hour ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

So because you don't like the draft as much as others, it's ok for you to spoil it? How about don't damn spoil it when the mods clearly tell you not to? Is it so hard?

What are you talking about.  I was following the draft.  I choose not to watch commercials .  I had the draft tracker up and was following the picks.  I mean does there need for me to watch a ton of commercials , watch Goddell booed every 5 minutes and have the picks delayed by 15 minutes for me to care about the draft.  

1 hour ago, rossihunter2 said:

why are you announcing the pick here though? if you're not interested in the tv show why would you announce it on the gameday thread? if you arent willing to play by the rules (which we all want to play by) and discuss picks as they are announced then why bother posting them?

essentially your argument is "I, atomicfront, don't like watching the nfl draft coverage, therefore, everyone who does watch the show doesn't deserve to not have the show spoiled for them" - it's not like we were watching it an hour later - we were literally watching the international coverage - the picks werent announced to the world before the coverage - they were announced earlier by beat writers - the nfl certainly agrees with italianraven and I because they stopped any broadcast media from tweeting out picks early

Was there another thread that I was supposed to announce the picks in? If there was I would have posted them there.  I don't watch college football so I just read the thread to get information on our picks.  Of course the NFL doesn't want you to tweet the picks early as they want you to watch the commercials on NFL Network.  Anyway there were probably 10 tweets by writers about the pick before I announced it.  And like I said I waited 5 minutes after the pick was announced to post it.  Anyway your argument is not logical.  The internet knows all about the pick and yet you don't want to read about it on the Internet.  I didn't come into your home to scream Tyus. 

8 hours ago, Italian Raven said:

I try this in another way. 

I don't know if you realized but on this Board it's full of people just like belfan, rossi and myself who spend entire months watching players' tapes, trying to figure out who might fit our team best and eventually predict the pic. Every offseason is a very long time for us, when we start to build a particolar "relation" with a few specific prospects. Thus, those picks are not just names that make no difference to us. We need the suspance, and we 'deserve' to enjoy the experience fully.

You could make a point for us not using any social platform during the draft itself but we're a sort of enlarged family here, so writing here is a way to share christmas day all together.

Look at it this way, you're watching whatever series (let's assume GOT) in streaming while your friend has it on tv (faster, a few minutes in advance).

You've been waiting for 1 year for THAT battle and he comes over telling you that Daenerys died despite knowing that you can't have seen that part yet. Isn't that the definition of "being a jurk"?

Sorry for that mods

#finemelaterman#finemelater (Takk McKinley)

Nothing like watching your favorite TV show.  The only thing you see on TIV is the commissioner walks up to the mic.  The fans boo him and then he says Baltimore Ravens select .....   I don't watch it on TV as it is complete boring and just watch the draft tracker.  A fair comparison would be how I don't waste my Sunday fall afternoons sitting indoors so I DVR the Ravens day games.  I have had people tell me the score when I specifically told them not to.  That is spoiling watching the game for me.  You had nothing spoiled for you.  You got the news when the pick was made and announced to everyone in the world except on NFL Network where they are more concerned about showing you commercials than showing you the picks as they are made. If you should be complaining complain to NFL Network for their delayed announcing of the picks. 

The pick was over five minutes old when I posted it on  here.  How am I supposed to know that they would delay it that long?  So someone posting on the Internet who doesn't have a cable package is somehow supposed to determine when they announce it on TV to discuss it?  Even though it was announced on the Internet over 5 minutes before the posting

26 minutes ago, trevorsteadman said:

 

You mean the fact the guy hasn't had an offseason to put under his belt? He was injured through both offseasons and is raw as hell. And coming off two serious injures. Also Torrey Smith was the #2 in the offense, not #3. 

The injuries all the more reason to be concerned about him being our #2 next year.  Torrey was definitely the better player at this point in his career.  Torrey didn't drop as many balls as Perrian either.  Probably the reason that Flacco didn't throw to Perriman more. 

7 minutes ago, polynesian15 said:

That's an astonishing analysis - 841 is "better" than the 0 yards Perriman had his first year (due to injury) and the 499 yards he had his second year as 3rd/4th option.

Numbers are one thing, actual play is another. Torrey hadn't dealt with season ending knee injury (to stunt his growth), and was also fortunate enough to participate in training camp.
How many targets did Torrey and Breshad have their first (active) seasons respectively?

  

Why was Perriman the 3rd or 4th option.  If Torrey was on the team and Perriman wasn't I am sure you would have the opposite feelings about them. 

3 minutes ago, trevorsteadman said:

Did you just really compare two of Torrey's seasons to one of Perriman's? Come on now we all know he was injured his rookie season. This next season is basically his second season.

Torrey had 841 yards his rookie season which is significantly more than Perriman had his second year.  So anyway you slice it he did a lot better.  

40 minutes ago, polynesian15 said:

So you're saying Perriman should have gotten more yards from the bench his first year... or? In Torrey's third season he was pretty much the only pass option, kinda like when Aiken had a 1000 yards a couple seasons ago.

I'm predicting an offense in which the ball is spread around with a healthy dose of rushing, in which Perriman still goes for more than a 1000 yards. You are saying worse than Torrey? I believe Perriman is 5x the player that Torrey is and will reach his 1000 yards way more effectively and without the force feeding. Besides that, Perriman is able to make those contested/agile catches that Torrey would never make. Better player, more impact.

Pitta is still a good player in my eyes, now removed one year from his latest injury. I wouldn't compare Jones to Breshad, besides we're talking about Perriman THIS season not LAST season when he was the 3rd/4th option.

Dixon/West/Woodhead will easily eclipse 500 yards from the backfield.

Btw I'm not saying our current cast outshines the SB cast in every way. That was a championship caliber crew who played lights out during the post season and remained injury free to a large extent. What I'm saying is that the two casts aren't massively different from a talent perspective.
We add a vet, Perriman develops, the line blocks and we run the ball. Team game.

What if Perriman gets injured first game?  There is no depth. And something you fail to take into account we had 500 more yards rushing on the 2012 team it was a more balanced offense.  If you threw as much as you did last year Torrey would have had even more yards. And Torrey average 17.4 yards per catch.  I don't get the forcing it to him comment at all.  These weren't dump offs most of Torrey's receptions were long gains.  

I would trade a pick or two to get a legitimate receiver.  Ozzie and everyone else in management and coaching's job is on the line.  Another disappointing season like the last two and they won't have to worry about what happens to the future picks.  Time to make some moves. 

9 hours ago, Davesta said:

A lot of B- from "draft analysts." I tend to agree. Borderline B, C+. Selecting no offensive skill players is worrisome. Unless Ozzie gave Steve bisciotti a 2 year plan and promise to build him a offense next year. I understand the draft was defense heavy so a lot of teams reach on offense knowing they can grab a good defensive pick in later rounds, ozzie just sitting back and scooping up all the BPA defensive players, but still. Perriman, Wallace, and mike camp is your starting WRs. Dixon out for 4 games. Hmmm 

Not defending the front office but the draft analyst ratings are pretty meaningless.  They have given us A's in the past in years that turned out to be more like an F in retrospect.  Giving Ozzie and company the benefit of the doubt that they know some guy who is a writer by trade. 

25 minutes ago, polynesian15 said:

That might be enough, that's what we had during the last SB run.

Do you think Boldin, Torrey, Jacoby Jones, Pitta and Ed Dickson are substantially better than Wallace, Perriman, Moore/Camp and Pitta/Williams/Gilmore? I don't. Besides,Oz adds at least 1 pass catcher before the season maybe more. Sure you can say "but injuries...". The fact is they are a part of the game, can't 

Perriman gets a starting role this season, with a full TC, and will do tremendously well: 70-80 rec, 1000-1100 yards, 6-8 TD's.   
He got rid of his rookie jitters last year and will make an impact this season imo. 

The keys are: (adequate) protection by the OL, for Flacco to gain more confidence post injury, and for the running game to become a consistent, viable threat again. 

Boldin hall of fame receiver in his prime.  Torrey first two seasons destroy Perriman (1696 yards vs 499 yards).  And Torrey had 1128 yards his third year. So you are predicting that Perriman in his third year breaks out and still has a worse season than Torrey in his third season.  Pitta was playing well back then and Jacoby was basically what Perriman was last year.  Plus you had Ray Rice who was good for 500 yards from the back field.  

I think it is a lot to expect a fourth round pick to change positions to center and then being a starter his first season.  More likely he plays guard and we bring in a veteran center.  Perhaps with a season of experience he can move to center down the road.  

Orioleshangout.com has a Ravens subforum.  Well moderated site and established.  Seems like it could be a good place to go. 

Work on your resume. 

13 hours ago, rossihunter2 said:

and even when one of the teams sucks/struggles they still can be a spanner in the works - like when we swept them as a 5-11 team

They made the playoffs the last 2 seasons and we didn't.  They don't respect us anymore that is why they appreciate us.  If we knock them out of the playoffs this year they won't appreciate us at all and will go back to hating us.  This has to be the stupidest thread I have ever read.  

Did you guys appreciate the Patriots when they didn't report who was eligible in our last playoff game and humiliated us on the way to the Super Bowl?  Go to a Steelers game in Pittsburgh when we were good with a Ravens jersey on and see how much they appreciate you.  Man reddit can't be worse than this forum. 

1 hour ago, rossihunter2 said:

I appreciate the steelers and I'm pretty sure they don't suck... if anything, when your main rival compliments you it's probably a sign that you are a respectable and worthy opponent

If the Steeler's players state something good about the team that is one thing but if a rival fans are saying good things about you it is because you were once good and are now are bad.  When we were both getting in the playoffs most years none of their fans had one good thing to say about the team.  Two straight non-winning seasons and suddenly they respect us? Come on.  

1 hour ago, allblackraven said:

I have not seen a single post from you that could be considered factual, sensible or insightful. Not one.

Well good news for you only have a few more days to read them.  Maybe the Ravens will be good again and they can go back to hating us and not respecting us.  

1 hour ago, balfan23 said:

When virtually every one on the forum is watching the announcements on TV, we're all in sync and commenting on the same picks as they are announced. When tweets come out 2 picks ahead of the discussion and someone posts them - when they KNOW that people are waiting to hear it on TV ... then that's being a spoiler. 

It wasn't a "rule" per se ... just a plea for following the draft in that way. 

Can't say I remember who was doing that ... can you? 

If you are seeing it on TV 15 minutes after the pick has been announced is that important to you then why read the board at all. Really it makes no sense to me why you would want to hear about the pick 15 minutes late?   If you want to ignore the Internet it seems the best way to do that is to stay off the Internet.  Maybe wait until Sunday Paper and read about it there. 

1 hour ago, rossihunter2 said:

I mean its pretty easy to understand - as with much breaking news around the NFL - beat writers often report things that aren't confirmed or haven't happened yet - in the case of the draft the show always runs behind the actual draft - I assume you can understand that it might take away from someone's enjoyment if they already know what's going to happen

 I don't understand.  This isn't a game that someone hasn't watched yet.  This is a draft pick that the only information being received is the name of the draft pick.  What is being spoiled? That you have to sit through 2 commercial breaks to get the same information.  I don't get how waiting five minutes for the same information is spoiling anything for you.  

I can't really judge them right now. I have to see the players at least in pre-season.  But if this draft turns out to be a failure and the team has a losing season this will probably the last any of them are involved in drafting NFL Players.   

They are just saying this because we have been down the last couple of years and they knocked us out of the playoff race.. If your main rival starts appreciating you that means you have started to suck. 

I don't know how you can do a "spoiler" on a draft pick.  These forums have the strangest rules.  

Houston LB Tyus Bowser

Watching the whole draft conference from the Ravens looks like the Ravens front office isn't happy about getting Humphrey.  Maybe they wanted Hooker or Barnett.  They look disappointed. 

2 minutes ago, Sami84 said:

Ozzie would be trolling if he dared to do that.

If they were thinking about trading back into the first they wouldn't have just had a long press conference. 

2 minutes ago, The Raven said:

Has it occurred to anyone that this guy might actually be a good addition or is everyone just pissed that they weren't original enough to pick him in their mock? I can't help but think people are just pissed because nobody saw it coming.

I was fine until Harbaugh started talking about what a great special teams player he was and how he didn't need to play right away and his performance would determine whether he plays or not.  That makes me feel warm and fuzzy about the pick.