Tenacious Faulker

Denver looked pretty disorganized on offense, but they may have the most dangerous D in the league right now. The offense looked bad against a great D which means they're likely pretty good, not great. The Raiders are their usual hot mess with injuries enough to make this a lopsided affair. Anything less and we'll all start wondering just how suspect our offense is. A loss is out of the question. Might as give them peg them as 8-8 and 3rd in the AFC North without a playoff appearance if that happens.

Understand, I'm a long time dog owner and have forgiven (not forgotten) Vick on his crimes. To me he seems to have at least learned he was wrong, paid his debt, suffered severely as he should've, then went on to help canine causes and resume his life. America is a place of second chances and where you can transcend your past or upbringing. I get that he will never again have the respect of many NFL fans especially dog loving NFL fans (in my case I never respected him as a player anyway), but I respect that he's now rehabilitated and a contributing member of society doing more for the community now than most of his detractors currently are. Eagles fans vehemently protested him joining the team and I agreed at the time. However, he kept his nose clean and helped them win for a spell. They calmed down and accepted him by and large. The Jets fans barely made a peep about his past even though he was awful in NY. Now Steelers fans, a proud if not, sanctimonious fan base, are again out in droves literally protesting as fervently as Eagles fans from SIX YEARS AGO. In light of Roethlisberger's multiple sexual assault allegations, Pouncey's support of convicted murderer Aaron Hernandez, and James Harrison's own DV charges, I find their reaction to this hilarious and sad at the same time. Mostly it's just perplexing. Their puritanical ire from them seems to have faded on those hero-players rather quickly and I expect it will eventually in Vick's case too. So, what makes Steelers fans so pious about their franchise? And would you, as a Ravens fan, accept or protest Vick if Ozzie brought him in as Joe's likely back up and why?

Why? They went from a bone bruise - out for a few days to OS out until week 1 and now to PCL out until October. Maybe to see if they need to use it on Perriman. I wouldn't be shocked if it happened at this point. Brent Urban is being held off it now for some reason.

Perriman now looks to be out until October. I guess a breakout rookie season is not likely. Pity. I wish they'd get their story straight on his injury status. They're back to the PCL injury after calling a bone bruise and then a flare up of his OS. Not sure why they can't diagnose this but it doesn't fill me with confidence.

Well Ross what just added to the PS today. Maybe they put Perriman on the IR DFR and activate Ross now.

My first impression of him is what I saw in his games at UCF. I liked him as a receiver and as the 2015 draft started to shape up he I saw him as a distinct possibility for Baltimore. I was excited about that pick too. Now, I'm concerned. Not because I changed my mind on him, but this injury BS is incomprehensible. First its a bruise/PCL sprain and out for a few days. Then a flare-up of his OS and out for a few weeks. Now we're back to the PCL sprain and out until October. It's been over a month now and there is STILL NO definitive diagnosis nor guarantee on a return time. Considering that they pinned much of their hopes on him as a #2, THIS is what causes me concern. They're being cryptic about the injury - that's a given. If he's going to be out a while, just say so. Dragging it out like this is worse on the fans than not being direct.

Anyone talking Trindon Holiday? He was cut a bit ago and is still looking for a team. Any Ravens fan knows he's a scorcher. However, he'd have to carry 7 WRs to sig him, because I doubt he's as good of receiver as anyone we havw now.

When was the last time the Ravens bailing on their 5th round pick in is rookie season? OG Robert Myers was promptly snatched up by the Colts. We've been loathe to drop most any draft pick in his rookie season in as long as I can remember. I'm surprised there's little discussion here on DeAngelo Tyson. That's a complete shocker. I know there has been stiff competition on the DL, but he was originally tapped as McPhee's heir. We all know hat he's capable of in limited snaps. You have to wonder just how much better everyone else on the line had to play for this to happen. I mean, Brent Urban (rd 4, injury risk), Guy Lawrence (rd 7), Christo Bilukidi (CFL/FA), KLM (6th rd, injury risk) and even rookie Carl Davis (rd 3) all out performed Tyson? We had a top 5 DL last year. So does that mean the players we have now are that much better? That would be incredible.

Meh...it's intriguing in name only. Ball is too inconsistent. More importantly, he failed in Kubiak's system which means he probably won't cut it in Trestman's either. Too me Ball is more of what we now have at b/u - an injury prone bruiser (Taliaferro) and a fumbling rookie (Allen).

Good for Easton. I hated to think of him being cut. SF got themselves a good player for a couple years to come.

Skill set, maybe. But are they as good or as polished? Boykin is slow for a receiver - Boldin slow - but he does get separation and moves the chains. Can't say Aiken and Brown have been that impressive this preseason.

Maybe I'm not saying it explicitly enough, but...Jarrett Boykin for WR2. I think he could be that for us. At this point I'm not sure they even call him in because a real KR guy is needed and he's too slow that. My other favorite is also now a Buc - CB Tim Jennings. He could've done some KR/PR too.

Point was he was a 3rd WR in Green Bay. Here he may be an upgrade over Brown (though Aiken is the closer comparison in terms of size). Boykins skill set is sure hands, something that our receivers seem to have forgotten since last season. He's essentially a large possession receiver. This allows Sr. and whoever else to be the outside threats.

Anyone interested in Jarrett Boykin? He was good as Aaron Rogers 3rd receiver and was misused in Carolina. Big frame receiver with sure hands.

What I have confidence in are the starters.. I feel they can go toe-to-toe with the best and prevail as much as Green Bay, New England, Pittsburgh, Seattle and Indy. Where my faith is has become rattled is in the back-ups. High hopes for Perriman, but his development has been stunted because of his condition. He might've recovered from minor knee surgery by now. However, he does have the potential to get up to speed in this offense quickly if he begins playing by week 1 or 2. Few of the other WRs after Smith Sr. have distinguished themselves. Even Aiken seems to be more of a #3 at this point. Hope Perriman is ready soon. Back-up QBs are worse then Tyrod and this coming from a Schaub fan. He looks very uncomfortable in an offense-system he once benefitted from. Renner is raw, but he's making plays whereas Schaub hasn't shaken the interception bug that has gripped him since 2013. The DL and OL back ups are getting beat. When the starters are in they get penetration, but the back ups are allowing #2's to handle them. Depth in the trenches is what has set the ravens apart from most teams especially the Steelers as of late. Hopefully the starters and key back ups get healthy and stay that way. Corners are looking like they in disarray. To be fair the starters and back ups appear close, but when they're bad that's not good. I hope the starters get healthy and stay that way. Otherwise I'm not confident about their chances at all.

As far as can they get by without a veteran TE, why not? They had Dickson and Pitta in 2010 when Heap didn't play much and they lead the TE squad in 2011. As far as does Ozzie make a move, I think its possible especially with still so many apparent holes. Even if he has faith in many of the back ups vying for the #2/#3 roles there are enough for him to be concerned about. The players I like in positions of need: CB Tim Jennings would be my vote but he'd be a #3/#4 CB here. WR Jarrett Boykin would fill in nicely being a former Aaron Rogers WR with a big frame.

Not speaking for the reat of you, but I didn't find that thread all that funny. This has been a tough preseason to smallow. If it makes anyone feel better we were 2-2 in preseason in 2012. I think I'm more interested in seeing the back ups simply play up to potential. A win against Atlanta is nice, but I want to see them come out of this with no imjuries and better execution particularly among the young receibers.

What does that even mean anyway? How does that translate to a 5-11 record? I'd say that this "prediction" was mostly to be "provactive" or perhaps an overreaction to the preseason. I see it as some gy with a sandwich board that reads"The end of the world ins nigh!" They have 14-1 odds to win the Super Bowl AND most analysts have the Ravens favorites to win the division without betting associated to those analytics. All AFCN teams have issues like us. Assume we go 3-3 divisionally. We still have feebs on schedule for likely wins - Oakland, KC, Jacksonville, and St. Louis. Then there is the rapidly diminishing 49ers who may end up falling to the pre-Jim Harbaugh ways. That's 9 wins there even if you think the Ravens aren't good enough to sweep Cleveland and beat Arizona, San Diego, and Miami. Seattle is not as strong as they once were either though still formidable, but are not locks to win in Bmore. Even if you count getting swept by Pittsburgh AND Cincy among losses to fair-to-good teams they at worst 7-9. A 5-11 record is reserved ONLY if Flacco goes down for the season in Week 1. No. It's really not.

Happy for Tyrod. I know how it feels to be in someone's shadow for too long. Best of luck.

2-time Pro Bowler released by Bears today. He's 31 had arthroscopic surgery this past off season. He's 5-9/1185 and runs a 4.32 40. Can we use him? Can we afford him?

Good point.

Interesting. I used to go to the Stallions games too, got go on the field to meet players during warm ups and sat in the mezzanine seating. I was so bummed when the Ravens came and the city dumped the Stallions like yesterday's news despite their success, that I was not a Ravens fan until 1999. Ray Lewis had caught my attention. Still I was at the very first home game at M$T (PSI NET) Stadium. I wasn't in Bmore when the Stars played and my great uncle was a minor owner in the Federals at the time anyway. Including the Colts, all these teams have won at least one Championship for Baltimore, the only city that can this has occurred. There are many cities with great football traditions and champion teams, but for Baltimore's distinction I feel this is the greatest best football city (not just NFL) in the country.

RG3 is playing for his job. If he looks anything like he did in the previous two games you can bet the McCoy or Cousins era will start.

He's disappointing and I was looking forward to seeing what he could do. However, its not the end of the world and I doubt his condition/injury needs to be on the PUP DFR. I really hope its not a matter of toughness or desire to play. That would be a horrible revelation. Barring that I'm guessing he'll be ready to play (maybe not start) week 1 or 2. I hope.

Good news! Gotta wonder if it wouldn't have been for longer if he didn't have those suspensions. I'm glad for it. He plays like a Raven and was wasted in New York. Hopefully he's good here until he retires.