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15 minutes ago, Davesta said:

All my years as a ravens fan, I can't remember ravens selecting the #1 most wanted fan pick. Prepare to be heart broken 

Arthur Brown although that may have been a bad thing

Speaking of spoilers, here is some info on all of that

http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2017/4/27/15398990/nfl-draft-tweets-picks-reporters-spoilers-adam-schefter

Lamp has a great sponsorship deal as well

5 minutes ago, -Truth- said:

Sources close to arnie_uk suggest that he could be upset with the lack of rumor discussions. Confirmation pending.

This has gotta be a smokescreen

4 minutes ago, arnie_uk said:

We do this anyway. It's always been done. They just delete the draft sections every year and it's lost

Seriously, the mods should bring back the old draft threads for discussion on here. Would be a fun way to look back

4 hours ago, rmw10 said:

Somewhat good news for Conley, it seems.  Still missing out on a ton of money but not as bad as it could be.  Strong indications that a lot of teams believe the accusations are completely false.

 

Yeah you would think if the claims were legit that they would wait until after they were drafted to increase the amount of compensation they will get.

14 hours ago, ellicottraven said:

This is my way of coping with potential disappointment should the Ravens actually take Cam Robinson. I tell myself he is the pick till such time he isn't. Then all is well and I drink Peppermint Schnapps and praise the Lord and Ozzie!

Pretty much my strategy right now haha

Jahri Evans to the Packers

1 hour ago, hn68wb4 said:

I suppose they theoretically could if he's signed his tender, but the question isn't whether the Pats would be up for it, it's whether the Saints will. He's already made it clear that he's not playing until he's gotten a new contract, so the Saints would have to agree to trading a first round caliber player for 5 years in exchange for giving up that pick and a huge contract to even get  Butler to play at all. From their point of view the value just isn't there.

From what I have heard the Saints have a solid deal in place with him if he is traded. I don't think Butler is all that into New England right now after they signed Gilmore and I'd imagine he plays this year but I don't see him sticking around.

On 4/24/2017 at 5:32 PM, LosT_in_TranSlatioN said:

Do some of the girls you know call your body "yummy"?

 

#InsideJokes. 

Okay now I am curious what happened lol

1 minute ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

His rationale is "the ravens get their replacement for Timmy Jernigan"

his rationale is always so lazy, I used to respect his analysis til this year. It's always "X team gets their Y" then rattles off a bunch of basic stats. Before he got stuck on wormley he was stuck on kamara and foreman and Royce freeman before he opted to return to school, and his rationale was "the ravens could use more talent at running back. _____ ran for X yards and Y touchdowns in 2016" word for word every week and he would just rotate different running backs at the pick. He's been garbage this year

Maybe Walterfootball is doing his mocks for him all of a sudden lol

46 minutes ago, rmw10 said:

Would you be saying the same thing if he fails another couple of drug tests and gets a 4 game suspension after we pick him?  It's foolish to say it'd be unacceptable because we know none of the facts.  If he makes it to us and we take him, it shows we have the comfort.  If not, I think it goes to show that Ozzie vetted his Alabama sources and determined he wasn't worth the risk.  By no means would passing on him be unacceptable just because he's a good player.  He can't be a good player if he's not on the field, and that may or may not be a real concern.

Or if Myles Garrett is available like he probably will be

2 minutes ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

Mike will and John Ross combined would basically be Odell Beckham lol

I'd say Perriman is the closest to those 2 combined. He even has been injured like both players lol

1 hour ago, SepticeyePoe said:

If the offense can get going and the pitching remains somewhat consistent, then I think the Orioles would have a serious chance at making noise in the postseason. 

Yeah I know the offense can do better than it is right now, kinda frustrating but I guess having a slump at this point of the year beats having one in September and October

Miley only giving up 2 runs in 7 IP but the Orioles not hitting tonight

7 minutes ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

man if the browns get desperate and the titans bring in another boatload of picks, they are gonna end up winning a super bowl soon. you can only draft so many players in the top 100 back to back before you suddenly have a stupidly talented roster. 

they really lucked out by sitting #2 last year despite having a franchise qb.

Unless you are the Browns, then you just get Trent Richardsons and Brandon Weedens along with your Justin Gilberts and Johnny Manziels

Just now, Ravens4Real said:

Making the pro bowl is one of the most useless factors in determining if a player is good or not. Especially since fans hold the keys to a player getting in. 

I agree that it is pretty useless, I mean Andy Dalton has made 3 of them somehow. Still, it is a solid barometer to take with this big a sample size as there aren't too many all pro nods being given out

Yeah I am too curious to not do 2002-2008 here so lets do it

2002:

You may have heard of this guy named Ed Reed, he was pretty good. Went to 9 pro bowls

Since we counted the undrafted guys in recent drafts, we must do the same here. Bart Scott couldn't wait to make the pro bowl in 2006

Total = 10

2003:

Sizzle has been to 6

Ovie Mughelli made a pro bowl in 2010 with the Falcons

2003 Total = 7

New Total = 17

2004:

Didn't get anyone in the actual draft but Don Muhlbach was picked up as an UDFA before going to the Lions and making a pro bowl 8 years later

2004 Total = 1

New Total = 18

2005:

Derek Anderson had that one year in Cleveland he was good and made the pro bowl in 2007

2005 Total = 1

New Total = 19

2006:

Ngata of course made his 5 pro bowls

Sam Koch also was able to make a pro bowl in 2015

2006 Total = 6

New Total = 25

2007:

Ben Grubbs made 2 pro bowls, once for us and then once with the Saints in 2013

Yanda has been great making 6 pro bowls for us

Le'Ron McClain made 2 pro bowls

2007 Total = 10

New Total = 35

2008:

Ray Rice out of Rutgers our Running back

2008 Total = 3

New Total = 38

So yeah this is a lot more than 10 and also means that I counted the pro bowls differently than in the list since it doesn't add up to 42. Don't feel like figuring out where the differences are though so whatever.

This was more classes than in the first post(7 vs 6) but there were some really good classes there and our only top 20 picks were Suggs, Flacco, and Ngata compared to CJ for the more recent stretch. That did not stop our team from finding some serious gems though in Reed and Yanda along with some other good picks in Grubbs and Rice outside that range. Outside the guys listed though we had only 7 total pro bowls so a lot of that total is due to some really good players like Reed, Suggs, and Yanda(who accounted for 21 pro bowls between them and counting as I think Yanda has more in him). 

Also the 2004 and 2005 drafts were pretty bad

Just now, BOLDnPurPnBlacK said:

Heap wasn't top 20?

Heap was 32 since we had just won the Super Bowl when we got him

4 minutes ago, BOLDnPurPnBlacK said:

2002-2008 is going to blow it out of the water. But you have to consider that the average draft position over that span was probably somewhere in the 12-16 range... whereas over the 2009-2016 span it was mid to late 20's

Actually ended up only being 3 top 20 picks. We made our picks on each of them(Suggs, Ngata, and Flacco) but there were some other really good picks we made

9 minutes ago, Sami84 said:

B.Williams and Jimmy Smith are solid football players. they are the eptimoe of high floor and low celing. They are not pro bowl calibre.

I'm sorry but thats a weak list outside of KO and CJ. I have no clue on how you found 10 pro bowls there..i count the pro bowl player not the number which is inflated with special teams players.

I think they are capable of making it if they have a good year. I am keeping it as unbiased as I can, just spitting out the figures and my thoughts. Doing 2002 - 2008 now. You will probably enjoy it.

16 minutes ago, Sami84 said:

not really...

just a bunch of lazy ppl voting who only looked at basic stats rather than his actual play which was bad.

I think the reason he was selected along with Mosley was that there was a huge tie between different LBs who all had one vote

From 2009 onwards...

2009:

Cedric Peerman somehow with the Bengals 6 years after we drafted him and he didn't even make the final roster

Total = 1

2010:

Morgan Cox was undrafted but we can count him to be nice

2010 Total = 2

New Total = 3

2011:

Tyrod Taylor made one in 2015 after he left here

2011 Total = 1

New Total = 4

2012:

K.O. made a pro bowl this past year after leaving us

Technically Tucker wasn't drafted by us as he was undrafted but we can count him as well

2012 Total = 3

New Total = 7

2013:

Juice made a pro bowl this past year

2012 Total = 1

New Total = 8

2014:

CJ has done very well for us here with 2014 and 2016 both being pro bowl level years for him

2014 Total = 2

New Total = 10

I won't go into the past 2 years as the players are all too young to know for sure but I will say that there is some potential with the 2016 class and I am not feeling too great about the 2015 class.

So we have 10 pro bowls over 6 years of drafting and I would say that there is still room for some growth with CJ and Jimmy Smith to hopefully develop along with maybe Brandon Williams getting recognized. 

I may do the classes from 2002 to 2008 if there is interest

48 minutes ago, LosT_in_TranSlatioN said:

If we do I hope he's at guard. Not RT.

 

that being said if the unthinkable happens(we move Stanley to RT and Robinson at LT. Which is impossible) my rage will be incalculable.

I don't think even the Browns could be that stupid lol

3 minutes ago, Ravens4Real said:

He should be able to make contributions later on in the season. Obviously not right away as he has to learn a system and get back up to speed.

Do you take a CB that may not contribute a whole lot at the back end of the first round? Factoring in that he may be was a top 5 pick without the injury? I would if I were a GM.

Yeah Jones was never getting top 5 buzz. Only CB getting that is Lattimore