52520Andrew

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  1. 16 minutes ago, ravensnation5220 said:

    Thats what the combine says....not the tape. Myles garrett is known for explosion and couldnt get around Cam

    Nah the tape is pretty telling there as well. Also Garrett was only rushing from the outside, had plenty of opportunity to do an inside move on Robinson but never did. Would have done a lot better if he did some more stuff there but considering how dangerous Hurts is on the move, it makes some sense that they wanted him to contain the QB. 

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  2. 6 minutes ago, -Truth- said:

    One of my favorite prospects in that class against one of my most disliked. In an objective world, feeling that strongly about a prospect is likely reserved for a handful players in a class. But given that Richardson had a 3rd round grade before the draft, I couldn't stand his tape. With regards to size and length, I could not agree more that they aren't the be-all and end-all. Arm length can be an issue on the outside for sure, but otherwise, I'd rather an OT have traits like balance and lateral movement.

    I just enjoy posting that gif, it is so much fun. Of course I could do some research and find some of him creaming James Carpenter as well. Plus I gotta rub Aaron Donald in since you stole Jatavis Brown from me last year :P

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  3. 9 minutes ago, ravensnation5220 said:

    Lol that guy looks like a meatball 😂

    Well just realize that Derek Barnett was able to beat Robinson around the edge a few times and the big knock for Barnett is a lack of explosion. 

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  4. 5 minutes ago, ravensnation5220 said:

    Length, Size, Strength a nasty streak and a mean look (all great olineman look mean) plus he started at bama since he was a true freshman! No injury issues, dependable and faced the best edge rushers the SEC had for 3 years. not to mention HE HAS ROOM TO IMPROVE!!! 

    Here is how much size matters in the NFL. For reference this is 6'5" 343 pounder Cyril Richardson being pancaked by 6'0" 285 pounder Aaron Donald

    Image result for aaron donald cyril richardson gif

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  5. 4 minutes ago, arnie_uk said:

    We do this anyway. It's always been done. They just delete the draft sections every year and it's lost

    Seriously, the mods should bring back the old draft threads for discussion on here. Would be a fun way to look back

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  6. 4 hours ago, rmw10 said:

    Somewhat good news for Conley, it seems.  Still missing out on a ton of money but not as bad as it could be.  Strong indications that a lot of teams believe the accusations are completely false.

     

    Yeah you would think if the claims were legit that they would wait until after they were drafted to increase the amount of compensation they will get.

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  7. 14 hours ago, ellicottraven said:

    This is my way of coping with potential disappointment should the Ravens actually take Cam Robinson. I tell myself he is the pick till such time he isn't. Then all is well and I drink Peppermint Schnapps and praise the Lord and Ozzie!

    Pretty much my strategy right now haha

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  8. 1 hour ago, hn68wb4 said:

    I suppose they theoretically could if he's signed his tender, but the question isn't whether the Pats would be up for it, it's whether the Saints will. He's already made it clear that he's not playing until he's gotten a new contract, so the Saints would have to agree to trading a first round caliber player for 5 years in exchange for giving up that pick and a huge contract to even get  Butler to play at all. From their point of view the value just isn't there.

    From what I have heard the Saints have a solid deal in place with him if he is traded. I don't think Butler is all that into New England right now after they signed Gilmore and I'd imagine he plays this year but I don't see him sticking around.

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  9. 1 minute ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

    His rationale is "the ravens get their replacement for Timmy Jernigan"

    his rationale is always so lazy, I used to respect his analysis til this year. It's always "X team gets their Y" then rattles off a bunch of basic stats. Before he got stuck on wormley he was stuck on kamara and foreman and Royce freeman before he opted to return to school, and his rationale was "the ravens could use more talent at running back. _____ ran for X yards and Y touchdowns in 2016" word for word every week and he would just rotate different running backs at the pick. He's been garbage this year

    Maybe Walterfootball is doing his mocks for him all of a sudden lol

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  10. 46 minutes ago, rmw10 said:

    Would you be saying the same thing if he fails another couple of drug tests and gets a 4 game suspension after we pick him?  It's foolish to say it'd be unacceptable because we know none of the facts.  If he makes it to us and we take him, it shows we have the comfort.  If not, I think it goes to show that Ozzie vetted his Alabama sources and determined he wasn't worth the risk.  By no means would passing on him be unacceptable just because he's a good player.  He can't be a good player if he's not on the field, and that may or may not be a real concern.

    Or if Myles Garrett is available like he probably will be ;)

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  11. 7 minutes ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

    man if the browns get desperate and the titans bring in another boatload of picks, they are gonna end up winning a super bowl soon. you can only draft so many players in the top 100 back to back before you suddenly have a stupidly talented roster. 

    they really lucked out by sitting #2 last year despite having a franchise qb.

    Unless you are the Browns, then you just get Trent Richardsons and Brandon Weedens along with your Justin Gilberts and Johnny Manziels

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  12. Just now, Ravens4Real said:

    Making the pro bowl is one of the most useless factors in determining if a player is good or not. Especially since fans hold the keys to a player getting in. 

    I agree that it is pretty useless, I mean Andy Dalton has made 3 of them somehow. Still, it is a solid barometer to take with this big a sample size as there aren't too many all pro nods being given out

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  13. Yeah I am too curious to not do 2002-2008 here so lets do it

     

    2002:

    You may have heard of this guy named Ed Reed, he was pretty good. Went to 9 pro bowls

    Since we counted the undrafted guys in recent drafts, we must do the same here. Bart Scott couldn't wait to make the pro bowl in 2006

    Total = 10

     

    2003:

    Sizzle has been to 6

    Ovie Mughelli made a pro bowl in 2010 with the Falcons

    2003 Total = 7

    New Total = 17

     

    2004:

    Didn't get anyone in the actual draft but Don Muhlbach was picked up as an UDFA before going to the Lions and making a pro bowl 8 years later

    2004 Total = 1

    New Total = 18

     

    2005:

    Derek Anderson had that one year in Cleveland he was good and made the pro bowl in 2007

    2005 Total = 1

    New Total = 19

     

    2006:

    Ngata of course made his 5 pro bowls

    Sam Koch also was able to make a pro bowl in 2015

    2006 Total = 6

    New Total = 25

     

    2007:

    Ben Grubbs made 2 pro bowls, once for us and then once with the Saints in 2013

    Yanda has been great making 6 pro bowls for us

    Le'Ron McClain made 2 pro bowls

    2007 Total = 10

    New Total = 35

     

    2008:

    Ray Rice out of Rutgers our Running back

    2008 Total = 3

    New Total = 38

     

    So yeah this is a lot more than 10 and also means that I counted the pro bowls differently than in the list since it doesn't add up to 42. Don't feel like figuring out where the differences are though so whatever.

    This was more classes than in the first post(7 vs 6) but there were some really good classes there and our only top 20 picks were Suggs, Flacco, and Ngata compared to CJ for the more recent stretch. That did not stop our team from finding some serious gems though in Reed and Yanda along with some other good picks in Grubbs and Rice outside that range. Outside the guys listed though we had only 7 total pro bowls so a lot of that total is due to some really good players like Reed, Suggs, and Yanda(who accounted for 21 pro bowls between them and counting as I think Yanda has more in him). 

    Also the 2004 and 2005 drafts were pretty bad

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