Just now, LosT_in_TranSlatioN said:I'd agree with you. But I still want them to pass up on Garrett for Trubisky. It'd be a lousy pick by virtue of Garrett probably becoming an all pro. And even with a good situation like that.... they're the browns. They'll find ways to lose
Yeah they will find a way to mess it up, it is crazy how much opportunity they have had in the past that they have just thrown away. Those 2012 and 2014 drafts were amazing at how awful they were
1 minute ago, LosT_in_TranSlatioN said:Don't tell the browns that
I don't think the Browns would even be a terrible situation for him given their O-line but having to line up under center will be a huge jump for him and he only played at UNC for 1 year. Browns would be smart to build up the defense more and then get their QB in a more promising class
12 minutes ago, LosT_in_TranSlatioN said:My mistake on Mitch guys. I had him slated to be the first QB off the board, must have forgotten to put him back when I did some changes last week.
ill fix it when I get home.
that said, I think he's gonna suck and I hope the browns draft him #1 overall in real life
I think he has potential if sheltered a la Rodgers but if he is thrown out there year 1 it is gonna be a rough ride with him
22 minutes ago, BOLDnPurPnBlacK said:I agree -- but i think the line is set at 3.5, meaning 4 of each would have to go for the "over" to hit. At least that's the line I saw.
It was 2.5 for both
17 minutes ago, BOLDnPurPnBlacK said:I take the under on both.
Dont see Zay Jones, JuJu, Godwin or anyone else sneaking into the 1st with all the pass rushers and CB's that will be available.
And definitely the under on RB's. I wouldnt be surprised at all to see Cook fall out of the 1st... but even if he doesnt i dont see any way Mixon, Kamara, Foreman, etc... go in the 1st -- again bc of the all defensive talent available. Plus, after TB there really arent many RB/WR needy teams. Det/Sea/GB/KC maybe for RB. But i think all will have better players at bigger needs.
McCaffrey, Fournette, Cook I think all go in the first
Also Williams, Davis, and Ross I think all go in the first.
Give me over on WRs, RBs, and I think Cook is taken earlier than 26.5
On 4/18/2017 at 9:21 PM, K-Dog said:I am wondering if anyone here has figured out my second screen name.
I have two accounts and I created a second account to mess with people. ( I wasn't too bad, I never got in trouble with a mod at least )
Betcha' can't figure it out.
This fan has a theory ![]()

Like Reddick, don't know about double dipping at CB so early with OL and WR kinda being left until later. Would like that defense though
37 minutes ago, Maryland said:That's a pick I don't hear too often.
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My prediction is that the Ravens pass on both Barnett and Corey Davis for someone this board generally does not want, perhaps Foster or Robinson. It's last year all over again.
I don't think a trade-down happens. Teams aren't going to want to part with their 2nd and/or 3rd round picks in this draft. I sincerely hope I'm wrong, however, because unless Barnett or OJ Howard are available, trading back is my preference.
Would not be surprised to see this
I think the last time the boards were happy with a first round pick from us was 2011. Think most people liked the pick when it was made. Lots of people cooled on Jimmy of course as it took him a couple years to get going. I wasn't on here these days but I remember hearing that most fans liked him
I don't remember Upshaw being too popular(not a first rounder but first pick so figured I would throw him on here)
Elam was pretty hated
Most people liked CJ but didn't like us going ILB at all(thought Arthur Brown was gonna be the next big thing)
Perriman was hated by almost everyone
Think some people liked Stanley but a few people myself included were against getting him, lots of discussion on that reaction thread. We will see how he develops but pretty happy with how he finished the season and fine taking the L on that one.
Corey Davis to the Saints is just funny. I guess I could see them taking a speed guy with Cooks gone but not in the first round.
I would be fine with Cook here as a player but the off field concerns make me think we pass and I am fine with that.
21 minutes ago, JoeyFlex5 said:He's definitely gonna need to move imo. If a DC can focus the game plan around him every week then it could be a highly effective front, he creates mismatches and penetration all over the place, but one thing I just don't expect him to do is edge rush effectively, he lacks the bend and flexibility. He's explosive, great closing speed, he shoves and rips and knifes gaps extremely well, but I simply don't see a skillset that would allow him to play the edge on passing down consistently
I guess it depends on if this person considers Michael Bennett an edge guy. I think Thomas can be an okay edge guy rushing the passer but I would much rather him inside because
A: I think he is better there
B: I value inside pressure more than edge pressure
Also McPhee doesn't really have good bend but he has been really effective in Chicago as an OLB. He isn't that Von Miller type player sure but he has been really good against the run and I think his pass rush is fairly solid. He doesn't finish sacks because he just doesn't have that bend but he gets his share of pressures at least. Like Thomas though I think McPhee is a lot more effective inside like he was with us in 2014. The Bears just don't have much depth at OLB (Sizzle and Doom in 2014) so they have not had that luxury hence why they drafted Floyd last year who can bend that edge and get them sacks. But Thomas being that SAM guy blowing up TEs in the run game and then shifting inside on passing downs is a very valuable player for just about anyone including us in the event he falls.
I guess I haven't really addressed your thoughts on whether he can be an edge guy and I think it really depends. He could adjust to the position and be really physical against the run while getting solid pass rushing numbers or he could be like Quinton Coples was on the Jets and just not fit that scheme. I think the better question though is why you wouldn't move him around as you can get so much more out of him as opposed to just leaving him on the edge. If you just stick him at OLB you are not gonna be able to maximize his potential and even if he can handle the position, you are losing out with him as he can do more. Guess we will see who gets him and how they are going to use him since as with most players, the team that takes him will go a long way to determining how his career ends up.
7 hours ago, JoeyFlex5 said:I just don't see the skillset though, if he's playing 43de in base and sliding to 3T on passing downs then I could see it, but that's not really an edge guy imo, to me an edge guy is a guy who's gonna be rushing the qb off the edge, like I think Malik McDowell is a DE in a base package but slides inside on passing downs, nobodies calling him an edge player
I see another Michael Bennett with him, think a team will be really happy to get him and move him along the line
I don't think Conley makes it to 16 so I think Barnett will be the next great OLB for us
21 hours ago, SepticeyePoe said:It's really surprising how Gausman was the only pitcher without a quality start and that both Ubaldo and Miley had quality starts. And according to Roch Kubatko, the Orioles rotation has a 0.94 era in the last 4 games.

Conley
Ju Ju
Witherspoon
OL
Or...
Ramczyk
Zay Jones
Ryan Anderson
Desmond King
Or...
Mike Williams
OLB
Sidney Jones
OL
On 4/20/2017 at 10:15 PM, usmccharles said:Also, I tried to elaborate on this one time, but I cant find the right words. The word 'value' I think is honestly overblown, don't get me wrong, I understand the premise.
Lets use Charles Harris for this example
If the FO thinks Harris can be the next Suggs for us and be a dominant force on this defense. The draft 'experts' big board has him at 29 best player and we take him at 16. Our FO is going to get killed because of how early he was drafted, but yet, we don't know what value we put on Harris. So even though everyone thinks we over-drafted Harris, we took him to give us the same production as Suggs, therefore the 'value' to us would easily be worth it. Does that make sense? its been a long day
Flacco is the perfect example of this
7 minutes ago, January J said:Back to the topic at hand please..
Yeah I don't see anything talking about Jake Butt on this thread
On 4/21/2017 at 7:10 AM, Jacquouille said:Oh yeah it is, not saying the opposite, just stating I have a draft crush for Chubb and I don't think I've ever had one ahaha
Gonna have to wait another year before you get too excited for him, he is staying at school
Man, Bundy gave up 6 hits tonight and didn't get into the 8th inning. He really needs to get on Ubaldo and Miley's level lol
Sarcasm btw...
1 minute ago, SepticeyePoe said:

2 minutes ago, SepticeyePoe said:
I posted on wrong thread

So Ubaldo and Miley both pitch absolute gems back to back...
Nah ah aaaaah
This time we play the Bengals at home lol
Monday night home game?!?!?!?!
Also means no Thanksgiving game for the Ravens
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But what type of muscle is being gained?