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I fear we will live to regret sending Mangold on his way.

if Williams is available it's hard to see them passing on him. If not an tackle makes a lot of sense.

TJ is gone... only time will tell if Ozzie made the right move. Mangold, if healthy, would upgrade our OL and our whole offense. We need to pull the trigger on him. If his ankle is ruined it's time for him to retire.

The only thing you can count on in this media event is that the FO won't tip their hand in any way if they can avoid it.

Jernigan was headed into a contract year... he would have played hard shooting for big money. He would have then left in free agency like so many others and probably would have turned out to be an overpaid bust with his new team. Question then becomes did we gain or lose by moving up in the 3rd round as compared to one good year out of Jernigan. Only time (and who we get with that pick) will tell.

if Williams is still there at 16 it's hard to see Ozzie passing... if not I'm guessing Ramczyk makes the most sense. They can get a good pass rusher in round 2.

  4 hours ago, bioLarzen said:

Plus a Birk-caliber C, a KO-type LG and a Ray Lewis-Ed Reed-Birk-Boldin type locker room leadership

KO was not the same KO that we know today, he was above average at best because he was hurt all the time, so Urschel is comparable. Jensen is an average center but it should work out. Worse comes to worst, put Jensen at G and Urschel at C.

The leadership will never be at that level, but Weddle and Suggs are doing a pretty darn good job in my opinion. The addition of Jefferson will also boost the confidence and swagger of the secondary. CJ is another up-and-coming guy after he takes Correa under his wing. My gut feeling also tells me that Dumervil returns. Flacco, Yanda and a grown-up Wallace will take on the leadership roles on the offensive side of the ball.

Urschel comparable to KO??? Do you really believe that?

Taking a dominant OL player at #16 makes a lot of sense... there are some questions that would need to be answered about this guy, however.

  On ‎3‎/‎31‎/‎2017 at 11:29 AM, steelcityraven said:

I believe Watson will have a big year. I think Pitta and Joe have that rapport so... we will continue to see a lot of that connection. I am not sure about Gimore... he shows flashes but has never demonstrated the consistency that can make him a real threat.

I think Maxx needed to add some strength and has now had a couple of years to do so.... I am curious how improved he will or will not be? He certainly has the raw skills.

I think Boyle has shown flashes of being a baby Gronk and Boyle at HBack is intriguing. But with his infractions... hard to trust him.

I think Waller will slide back to WR and while I love his potential... I really don't seem him playing TE...he seems to have more of a WR mindset@

 

I think they are giving Watson enough time to heal so that he can pass a physical and then be cut..  

I can't find the article I was reading but it talked about how players on IR need to pass a physical before being cut, or the team would have to pay the full salary due per injury settlement rules, because it's deemed if they couldn't pass the physical they can't play for another team either. ( like a hardship type thing to benefit the players ). 

I read something similar for the reason K.Arrington hadn't been released yet. 

This makes the most sense as to why Watson and Arrington are still on the roster. If the Ravens brass doesn't have enough faith in their young TE's to give them a shot... it would be too bad.

Joe played exceptionally well during his rookie contract... after that, not so much.

No question about it... he's the man!

The big question is not would he help us... he certainly would... it's has he forgiven the Ravens for the way they dumped him? Getting rid of him was the Raven's worst move since Model fired Bill Belichek (just before they became the Ravens).

1 hour ago, TheConquerorWorm said:

Why cut someone when you don't have to? If the Ravens needs more cap space to sign someone, then they will act accordingly and I can see Watson & Arrington being cut to make the necessary space. It's not like cutting him would give us enough space to get Zach Brown, AP or another one of the top remaining guys. Ozzie will probably wait until the June 1st or pre-season cuts to sign any other FA. A lot can happen in OTAs as far as injuries go. With Pitta, Gillmore and all the other TE injury histories, it doesn't make since to dump what could be a cheap quality TE (that you can't replace for $3 million per) unless you have to.

Why cut him?  Well we have 6 TEs on the roster all much younger (and cheaper) than the 36 year old Watson, who, if you will take a look at his stats, has had exactly one good season out of all his years in the NFL.  What are the chances of needing 6 TEs,  or of Watson having a second good year at this point in his career especially after a serious injury?

Weddle is clearly the Ravens best free agent signing since "Q" or maybe SSS. Anyone have a clue why the FO hasn't released Watson yet to free up more cap space? Is it the way the contract is structured... maybe after 6/1?

Am I the only one scared to death by the prospect of Ozzie selecting a WR in the first round? Think of his other first round WR picks over the years!

Good signing... anyone have a clue why Watson is still on the roster? Does the date he is cut affect the dead money or is there some other consideration?

Admit it... the prospects of the Ozzie taking a receiver with their first round pick scares the heck out of Ravens fans.

He is reputed to be a third down back... good blocker and excellent receiver. He also consistently racks up a lot more yardage after first contact than say Pita. He might just see a lot of targets this year.

I'm sure the money will come in handy... I hope the ravens have figured a way to help this fine young man out as well.

Mangold seems like the answer here... why we are not interested is the question. The other question is why is Watson still on the roster?

  42 minutes ago, whobilly said:

If we can sign "Q" for around the same price the Lions did last season he would likely contribute "Only" 60 catches, move the chains, and provide a tough winning attitude.

Sounds like a weaker version of Dennis Pitta, who we just asked to take a paycut.

I rest my case.

"Q" a weaker version of Pitta?? You are trying to be humorous... right?

He has been a model of workmanship and work ethic thus far. Quite possibly because of having come up the hard way. A lot of professional athletes are never the same after they sign their first big contract... (the Ravens have a couple of examples). My guess is that Williams will continue to be Williams no matter the size of his check.

7 hours ago, EdTheMythicalOne said:

Wow, a lot of hate on Pitta and Flacco here.

The comment that Flacco is not a championship QB is...looking for a kind way to say it...not exactly correct. Under Flacco this team has made the playoffs 6 times in the 9 seasons he's played. In fact in his first five seasons this team went to the playoffs each season, never were one and done (in any of the six times they went to the playoffs), and won a superbowl. That run to the superbowl and the win would have never happened without Flacco.

It is amazing that Dennis Pitta was able to come back from not one, but two devastating hip injuries. Keep in mind he was a hero in that super bowl run as well. Obviously he's not quite the same guy he was before the injuries. As I stated before he is still the guy with the most reliable hands on the roster and he seems to be the only one that understands how to get open in zone coverage. It isn't his fault or Flacco's that none of his other targets can't separate from defenders.

As I stated before as well I don't think the team is planning on Pitta being the #1. I don't think that was the plan last season. It is just what happened along the way. Boyle was suspended, Gillmore got hurt, Watson got hurt, and Williams got hurt. We were down to Pitta and Waller as our only two active TE's and then the Ravens were just rotating guys on and off the roster every week just in case something happened to those two. I think moving forwards Maxx Williams will be the #1 until he proves he can't be or gets hurt again. I think with the loss of Juice that one of our TE's will be used as a motion H-Back/blocker role. On running downs you can put in Gillmore, then whomever you want as the 2nd TE, and then have Boyle as the lead blocking H-back or perhaps Waller. We could really get creative with a three TE package in this way.

 

Joe performed very well during his rookie contract... after that not so much.

Lawrence Guy's gone to New England.

Can't help thinking it's gonna hurt us more than it would seem...

No doubt he will be missed but we are deep on the DL and we couldn't afford any more contracts of that magnitude. NE gave him a nice sized contract.

25 minutes ago, Drinkmore Beer said:

No one is better at gaining 6 yards on third-and-seven.

More like 3 yards on third and 4.