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He's had alligator arms forsure at times. They need to grown up fast with SSS hurt and kamar invisible.

Because somebody on this board said he'd be our Antonio brown. Lol. We just need one of them to ball out for us. If they both do, major win.

I agree, I feel like he may be similar to cam. We need a creative offense to mask our lack of playmakers at skill positions. But that's hard with the offensive line he has right now. Time will tell.

Agreed, he just needs to stay focused and catch the rock. He's got talent, no doubt. I like him as a player and hopefully one of the two will pan out. Every time perriman falls I still cringe.

Fair enough and an excellent point. We are all fans trying to figure some of this frustrating crap out lol. Our D is carrying us. On offense, we do lack explosive players. I really hope perriman will be and honestly he looks like he will be very solid in 2 years. Other than he and Pitta and Stanley we haven't drafted well on offense. To be honest, trestman wasn't good for us but I'm not sure Marty can change much. Our oline is in shambles.

This is what I'm getting at. We have quantity and not much quality. that's just why I've seen. And at the end of games we are gonna sit and wait for somebody to make a play that rarely will be made. It's just the truth. That's why every game is an armpit sweater.

lol you know how it is whenever you say the Ravens aren't the best team in the NFL. We have issues like every team and I'm just talking them with fellow Ravens fans. Personal attacks, putting words in my mouth are all part of the deal here, but I'm not backing off my opinion.

hell of a point my guy. Would you say it's flacco then? What players do we even have who are on gronk and Brady's level? But again, my original post is about players we've drafted. So mentioning twest sss is moot to me. Go read the OP and don't be blinded how much my original argument has been twisted.

I see you on here often and know you're not bias. You actually are one of the more unbiased like myself. I keep it real too. I was speaking about those on here who are and bash ppl with different opinions. Not you my dude.

Quantity wise, I can agree with you. But the quality of playmakers on those teams are what's going to separate us. Especially at skill positions and pass rusher. I understand we are all Ravens fans here but the bias on this board is crazy.

I agree. Harbs gets players to play well but at the end of the day the players are the ones playing. And at skill positions, we lack playmakers across the board.

Nah, reread my OP. I mentioned bwill. Do you think we are as talkented as the steelers, bengals, packers, vikes? Who also draft late most years?

Yep I looked it up and actually agree. You're right on that point and as a man I can admit that. The mutiny is what I was talking about and I took what I read on the boards as fact. as far as the drafting and talent, we will always disagree. And yeah man honestly you're a clown for making this personal.

You're correct. Just researched it. I can admit I was wrong about the harbs unspokenplayers thing. But that's all.

Fair point. Me saying Hightower and butler were stars(although I said playmakers) was a response to those who think jimmy or Webb are playmakers. How can tavon(again love the guy) be a playmaker but Malcom butler isn't? To consider perriman Dixon and Judon playmakers but not Hightower Edelman and butler not is just being a homer. Just because we know this team and love them doesn't mean they're all playmakers and that's how it seems sometimes on the board. I agree with the coaching and oline being the biggest issue. Isn't oline a part of the team? Werent they drafted?

I disagre. Remember the beef we had when pollard reed etc were being outspoken? Maybe harbs having that metality has effected the drafting strategy? Harbs doesn't like outspoken players and that was proven. It's not all about good and bad players.

Gotcha. So would you say coaches aren't getting the most out of players? Harbs are practicing them too hard? I deff agree that injuries are a big setback for us as well as old man river trestman. I'm still sick we passed on Derrick Henry for correa.

Thank you for being unbiased. I respect this post. Maybe it's our coaching.

Great points. The question was do we go after playmakers in the draft or go for players who fit the raven way? I know we are wayyyy off thanks to the raven. My point is we lack drafted playmakers(specifically at skill positions). What I mean by a playmaker is somebody who constantly wins one on one battles, comes through in the clutch, teams fear. Who on the Ravens do does anybody fear? Who have we drafted that you know is going to win their matchup week after week? Cj, and yanda. I agree with you that we've had some nice role players. But we've gotten caught up in quantity over quality. Can you admit that?

You're right but I never brought the pats into the convo. The raven did because he didn't agree with what I said. Bash me for stuff I've said in my op.

lol it's all good man. It's all fun bro. I bet if we all met at Ravens game we'd sip a beer together and cheer our boys on. I just have my opinion on certain things I've seen. I agree about max and perriman. Would you say our coaches aren't getting the most out of these guys? I feel like there's an issue we as fans are trying to decipher. I read these boards everyday. To me, the fans who are crushing me for this (not you) know There is a problem but aren't sure why it is. I'm okay with it, but as a board, these convos are good.

I love debating. Keep them coming lol 1 vs 100. I'm enjoying this convo. I'm curious as to see how many ppl really think our draft talent isn't falling off.

I guess people don't actually read the OP and just bandwagon everybody else.

Nice points, but I disagree that we don't lack talent. Players will show flashes butconsistebcy makes them playmakers. How many flashes did rashann Melvin show us? Carl Davis? Even shareece had flashes. I'm not saying we are a bad team and I love my Ravens. But my opinion is that we are starting to fall behind in homegrown talent and it's starting to show. If I get murdered on here for my opinion so be it. At the end of the day none of us really matter to the Ravens so it's all fun. None of us are getting a ring, so be open-minded.

So what are you even arguing for harbs? Only bc im realistic and you're drunk off that purple coolaid.