McDowell needs to improve his ability to find the ball when engaged. That doesn't seem to be part of his game yet. He will beat his man and lose sight of ball carrier.
Sort of puts his head down and tends to ignore everything but the guy in front of him.
Haven't watched him in a while but I remember at least two games where he didn't play well and really was pushed around, mostly at 5T.
Generally, you had better double team this guy on third down and this is no small thing to me. Pretty sure he can develop more in the run game.
Defense has severely missed getting pressure up the middle. This guy can win and win quickly and I'm very intrigued by the thought of him at sixteen.
For whatever is to be made of this, The Ravens, according to Walter football, have met more than one time with only three players ;
1)Chris Wormley - DE MICHIGAN this smells like a Ravens pick...
2) Deangelo Yancey, WR PURDUE ( watched only one game on this guy and couldn't bring myself to watch another).
3) Takkarist McKinley
McDowell seems like more of an under the radar pick to me at this point....for us at least.
Have we met with the guy?
Love his versatility....he's a guy that can keep Brady from being able to step up...maybe THE guy in this class.
You guys REALLY think they take this guy at 16?
1 minute ago, JoeyFlex5 said:I wouldn't want wormley til the 3rd at least. I think we have enough run stuffers on the line
I didn't say I wanted him....only trying to predict a curve ball. Second round is rich for me as well.
Just now, ravensnation5220 said:I like him. In the second round for sure but I still think we can find better value and wait till the 3rd or 4th round for a dlineman
It's only a question of WHICH Michigan player(s) we take....how far under the radar. That's where I look first when considering under the radar players(not that Wormley is )....
We will take a player from Michigan based on Harbaugh connection.
Wormley?
6 hours ago, PurpleHorseman said:You draft him round5 if he is available. If he really impresses in camp then you carry a No.3 QB. QB is the one position you keep an extra player if you believe you have a future pro bowler. If Flacco lays an egg again and plays less efficient than he did last year even. Then QB would be a needy position. Would it not? If Joe is terrible.
If Joe's play remains in line with last year. What do you do if Chad comes in and clearly outplays Joe in practice and preseason? What if Joe misses 2 games and Chad completely lights it up for 2 games? Like Brady did when Bledsoe got hurt. He could very well jump Mallet on the depth chart.
If Kelly is straight I would definitely take him late.
This is ill conceived
19 hours ago, RavensDieHard21 said:I hear ya flex, you aren't bashing the talent, but rather you are practical in his fit here. Why do you think SSS was pissed at camp when Joe was chucking ugly passes. His weakness is hitting guys in stride.
Flacco is better at chucking it in the general vicinity and having his player making the play. In this scenario I think JuJu or Zay Jones would be better fits in the second.
"Chucking it in the general vicinity".... is not something a franchise QB should specialize in.
Another reason I don't like Ross for us is Joe's lack of accuracy deep...he is severely prone to under throws and Ross is not ideally framed to take balls away from a defensive back.
2 hours ago, January J said:Couldn't agree more about Ross- like I said I don't think he is on our radar whatsoever. His stye just doesn't fit with what we need at all. Hopefully another team needing a speed demon will jump up for him.
Ofcourse we expect those other guys to likely be gone but it's a possibility they won't be and that doesn't mean they're not higher on our board obviously. If i was to guess right now who our pick will be after those other guys are gone- I would without a doubt say Corey Davis.
You never can tell with Eric. Could be either.
I would absolutely not be OK with trading up for Fournette- that would be a huge mistake IMO as he's a big boom or bust guy- right now I'm leaning towards bust and think he's way overhyped. Would rather have cook but due to his history I see us not touching either. We have our eyes on somebody in the 5th or 6th I'm sure.
A lot of people disliked my post I see - I'm very interested to see you alls current top 15 board of picks that are actually within the realm of possibilities.
Assuming no slide, these are seven players I think worthy at sixteen:
Lamp
Reddick
Davis/Ross (one or the other)
Tim Williams
Cook
Conley
McKinley
Someone will likely slide, of course.....I would guess Barnett or Foster...perhaps Howard.
Here is how I would order the aforementioned :
Reddick
McKinley
Lamp
Davis
Conley
Williams
Cook
Titans need a WR but it doesn't seem smart to take one with their first pick.
I heard they are high on Njouku
6 minutes ago, Davesta said:Man I hope your right and Davis is our true target. Lol!
DeCosta said something to the effect of : " some people think he's good...some people like him..."
Kind of strange.
2 hours ago, ravensnation5220 said:
He really never had to face any complex routes in the pac12 though. I mean all they run are about 5 routes in that conference. Slants, 9s, outs, ins, and curls are all he really had to know. I think he might have a hard time with more complex route trees at the next level. He's bound to be a bit raw considering his extremely short football career. His hips are great and feet are fluid but he's def not polished by any means. I think it just comes very natural to him. He's one of those natural athletes and that shows with all the sports he played in highschool
By that rationale each and every corner in the Pac 12(every conference, actually)is at disadvantage. I don't buy that as an explanation at to how he might be raw in coverage. Not at all.
20 minutes ago, ravensnation5220 said:I think Witherspoon is so overlooked because he is so raw. A lot of teams prefer not to have a project with a high draft pick. Awuzie cam come in and contribute right away while im not sure ahkello can do the same. He's very slim, very slim. He has no physicality in the run game and it will take some time for him to develop and fill out his frame, not to mention he only had 1 int when he had his hands on 23 passes, I'm sure some teams will question his ball skills. I love his coverage skills and his character, everything about him says he will be successful, however, I think it will take him some time. You have to remember he didn't play football until his senior year of high school.
If you read what I wrote about him above you'll see that he's one of those late bloomer kind of kids. He didn't really grow into his body until later in his life and there's nothing wrong with that, just some teams prefer not to wait
He may lack experience but he isn't raw in coverage. He is out on the island and shuts guys down.
Picks are great, obviously but it doesn't tell the whole tale. He understands routes and makes plays on the ball....a lot.
Can't argue he's a rail.
2 hours ago, rossihunter2 said:I know awuzie is often mocked above ahkello but I'm starting to come around to the opinion that Witherspoon is the better cover corner - awuzie is better in run support and more physical and slightly shiftier but he's also more prone to getting beat deep from long speed or double-moves
thats a sneaky good secondary by the way at Colorado: awuzie, tedric thompson, Witherspoon - all may well go by the end of day 2
He is better. (Witherspoon)
Not sure how he is being slept on nationally but it was clear to me a while ago how talented he is.
He has upside, one would have to think, against the run, given some work and strength conditioning.
2 hours ago, BmoreBird22 said:Sorry, late to reply to this, but no, his play on the field isn't perfect. Has any prospect ever (Luck excluded) ever been perfect? I mean, come on; that's silly.
You know who had major fumble issues early? Adrian Peterson. Who's the best running back of our generation outside of LT? Peterson.
I don't know if he's exactly what the Ravens need because he's not the best back between the tackles, but he's got exciting ability on the perimeter and with the ball in his hands. He's a play waiting to happen every time he touches it.
I'm with you. On the field he is everything the FO appears to want in a playmaker. If there's a guy in this draft that will give coordinators more sleepless nights in preparation, I don't know who it is.
15 hours ago, BOLDnPurPnBlacK said:Dan Jeremiah just posted his 4.0 mock.
And with no QB's picked before us still has Barnett falling to us. I like it.
Couple curious selections with the Saints taking Conley at 11 with both Reuben Foster and Barnett on the board.
And McCaffery going to the Panthers.
But it certainly not a crazy set of circumstances where Barnett does in fact make it to us. There is some hope.
I believe he has all three receivers going, along with McCaffrey and OJ Howard before we pick.
Nfl network replaying Christmas vs. Steelers right now.
Flacco is masterful in this game. This is the standard by which he should be measured. This is what he's capable of and it needs to happen more routinely .
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1 hour ago, rossihunter2 said:nope - still dave caldwell - the only new guy in that building is tom coughlin who i wouldnt really refer to as a rookie...
Draft day....one of the great films of our time.....or any time.
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10 hours ago, CalRavenFan said:Has there been any buzz about moving any TE's via trade? We have a glut of TE's and I'd like to get something for one or two of them, rather than cut them since I doubt we carry 6 into the season. Do any have trade value?
It would be nice to package all but one for a 2nd round pick and select bucky Hodges.
Isn't there a shaky rookie GM in Jacksonville that we could exploit?......Carson, is his last name if I remember.
Eagles have to feel they made a good trade.
Maybe Allen will slide....genius.
Overall I like this draft a lot. It's a pretty serious investment in our line and in Joe.
My biggest gripe is that the DB is underrepresented. We are a Jimmy Smith injury away from being in pretty much the same predicament as last season. In this draft, I'd like to think we could land two starter quality corners.
Love the Ejuan Price pick. I like all your picks except Goforth.....question as to whether Elfleien is there mid 3 but I could be wrong on that.
Good mock.
3 hours ago, ravensnation5220 said:With his plethora of off the feild issues. I have a hard time thinking he will be high on our board
This places him securely under the radar.
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Teldrick Morgan, WR- MARYLAND.
Talented player that The Ravens supposedly high on.
Matt Waldman did a breakdown on him as well.