Edgar

Definitely am interested in your impressions of DBs in particular

He definitely gets pushed around in the run game. Stiff in space.... The majority of his sacks come about the same...he beats his guy around the edge. He will have to be able to set that up more on the next level....simply not explosive enough in my eyes for that to be his full time go to.

Some of us have talked about this before but a ravens podcast...even a cheesily shot weekly you tube one where guys on this board break down players....specific to Ravens needs/fit and speculate on who we might select would be a cool novelty....really think guys on this board would do a much better job than anyone I've seen or read locally.

Man, If you pull this off you are undoubtedly the coolest

Admittedly, I probably can't relate to rationale behind this decision as I'm likely ignorant as to what makes "this", go....but it strikes me as very, very, very lame. A board...THE board representing the Ravens is closing up shop because.......you can't keep up? Isn't worth the effort? Who exactly makes this decision....anyone know ? You can keep Facebook, etc

OK , I've now been able to see a whopping three games of tape and here's my take following one caveat ; I'd like to see as much tape on him as possible. Three games clearly won't tell everything. 1) shows up and makes plays in each game....does in fact jump off film. 2) fairly evolved edge rusher.....adept at setups....displays inside counters, a very good rip move, long with some jolting power in arms and hands. 3) Pursues with passion.....I see him as having very very high awareness against run and in the passing game. Also very aware in coverage....sees play developing, makes quick read, shows up where he should when dropping and when picking up out of backfield......oh yeah...Reads quarterback and gets hands in throwing lanes three (perhaps four) times in three game films to deflect pass. 4) understands setting the edge but at times is pushed around a little in run game....( see second half vs.Michigan) could add to frame. What is injury history ? Very intrigued overall. Based on what I've seen, I would absolutely, no question take him over, Tabor, Ross...some other guys I've seen mocked to us in a quick second.

Barnett has questions as well. Seems a board wide assumption that he's perfect .....I like him but he has some concerns.

Draft breakdown..Michigan tackle, magnuson vs. Wisconsin..15 minutes of game film.

He's worth it. Guy can shut down big tight ends, smart....closes in a hurry. Good tackler. Reads the action well...like him interchangeably. I wouldn't sit back and wait.

I'd certainly trade a thjrd to get Melinfonwu in the early part of round two.

Thanks. Just watched. Any others?

I've managed to find exactly one game film on this guy. Where is all this film you are watching ? My initial reaction is I'm watching a 2nd round talent whose last name happens to be Watt.

Reddick moves like a DB during coverage drills.

He's actually a very good run defender. Very smart....Sets the edge about as well as anyone in class.

1) absolutely relentless...Any tackle opposite him better understand that he doesn't take plays off and plays with hair on fire for the duration. 2) maintains edge and plays run well. Seems to have good awareness vs. Read option...finds the ball while engaged. 3) has limited repertoire as rusher in terms of hand and can get stone walled but you can see him thinking and trying moves in game. For example: early on against Boles he is stood up by him one on one, I believe two times. Not long after, you see him win inside....he doesn't get to QB but he definitely beats his man. After that, he beats Boles twice around the edge with blazing get off and athleticism and gets home 4) long arms- has to learn how to use them but when he does he'll be unstoppable. 5) flashes effective bull rush.....Will become stronger and can add weight without losing speed. Repeatedly finds a way to bring pressure via shear effort. Have not seen him in coverage that I recall but is moved around...sometimes rushing from inside linebacker spot. 6) chases play away from him

Wilson is a legit corner prospect. Tape shows him mainly in off man and zone coverage. Saw only two plays in three games of him playing press. Fast. Reads QB well and reacts quickly. Plays the ball well in the air. Not at all shy about stuffing the run. One of the more physical corners in this draft. I think he goes late two, early three. I had him mocked to us a few weeks ago but I think his stock will elevate post combine.

The first to say they like him? That would surprise me. Love him for us.

Man, I love Takkarist McKinley for us. Have a feeling his stock will be soaring post combine.

Humphrey.....I like that he's among the very few physical corners in this class. There's a part of me that likes the DB pairing with Young and Smith because he's athletic and physical against the run....BUT..He will be exploited deep in the NFL. I don't trust him in man to man deep.....no way I take him over Sidney or draft him that high, period. To me he looks more like a SS. Reddick would have to play inside....he can't hold up against the run on the outside. Perhaps he could come off the edge on third downs.... Not convinced Moton will be there ..... I'm also big on Rodgers......such a cliche but "Boldin", came immediately to mind as well. Guy is a player...gets open and really can be trusted to win the 50/50 ball consistently.

Charlie Campbell has Solomon Thomas falling to us in his latest mock.

Going to make this to the point : It is imperative to me that we find a way to keep Rick Wagner. Also would like us to make a move for a cornerback and wideout ( Garcon, Jackson). I'm going a little away from what others have mocked. ROUND ONE - TE, O.J. HOWARD- not going to be popular as our first round selection. Here is my rationale : He is essentially a two for one pick. He's ready as an in line blocker now. This guy moves edge defenders out of the play. Great catch radius, very good speed to get down field and great hands. Big reliable target. Red Zone weapon. I think he's likely to be the best player on the board when we pick. A pro bowl tight end. ROUND TWO - PAT ELFLEIN - C, OHIO STATE - a popular pick and with good reason. He and Howard (along with the Wagner re-signing), make this running game a serious force to be reckoned with. Elflein is a passionate, physical, nasty lineman and is also a pro bowler within three years. He is the best center in this class and it isn't even close. ROUND THREE- - CB- CORNELIUS ELDER- MIAMI I like everything about Elder. His downside is his size. will likely be relegated to the slot. Quick cover guy who plays as physical as any corner in the draft despite his stature. Excellent cover guy, very good Blitzer. Excellent teams. Should be able to put on ten or so without losing quickness. ROUND THREE (compensatory), KAREEM HUNT - RB, TOLEDO An odd mixture of what both West and Dixon do well. Actually, he is a better version of Kenneth Dixon. This is saying something as like Dixon not a little bit. Again, our offense and in particular, our running game will be explosive. Great hands out of the backfield, tremendous yards after contact. A big time run game in 2017. ROUND FOUR - HOWARD WILSON, CB, HOUSTON A long corner who plays physical and creates turnovers ...both he and Elder jump off the tape while you're watching someone else on tape. Great leader with speed and length. ROUND FIVE - AVERY MOSS, OLB - YOUNGSTOWN STATE A bit raw overall but is a guy with burst and bend off the edge. Needs a year but has tools and size to be an effective OLB ROUND SIX - STEVIE TUIKOLVATU - NT, USC Limited two down player but very good at taking on double teams and stuffing the run. Could be worked into DLINE rotation right away. ROUND SEVEN - DARREUS ROGERS - WR, USC I have doubts he Will still be on the board of course but I like him and he will be viewed as slow. The thing I love is how he gets open anyway...how he owns the jump ball and makes plays.

Don't forget Kareem Hunt....he is the 3rd back I was referring to.

I would pick seven rounds of defense if given my druthers...I'm exaggerating only slightly. One of the problems with another draft that addresses defense early, (though I'm certainly aware of the holes on that side of the ball and where we come up wanting), is that it won't at all help our offense. My first two rounds most certainly aid our defense, ( if only in a slight way by comparison). It doesn't work the other way round and this offense has to step up this year..... With Stanley, Lewis, Elflein , Yanda, Wagner and a SERIOUS commitment to running the football, we will be difficult to stop....Howard, despite what some say, is a tremendous asset in the run game and an obvious one in the passing game. As to Elder, i understand his role and your concern about us already having Young.....valid point but simply having a quality player at any position won't preclude the Ravens from taking a football Ayer they like. I also can see certain teams having smaller, quicker receivers where we might make use of both Young and Elder. Also, watch Howard Wilson...Just as promising a prospect at CB as a lot of the projected 2nd round corners.

I'd likely take Sidney Jones over OJ but I wouldn't project him being there for us at our selection. I'd definitely entertain Tim Williams.... Certainly if assured he is straight......perhaps Dalvin Cook but it's difficult envisioning the slide of a player I prefer to Howard. I like Taco Charlton a lot...a lot.....but ultimately I'm more convinced by Howard regardless of perceived need.

Howard Wilson, CB Houston Kareem Hunt Darreus Rogers Jeremy Cutrer Keion Adams - edge rusher, Western Michigan