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Not to mention that Jacoby caught nine passes this past season and Joe had career highs in yards and touchdowns, despite several new receivers

"All Im saying is without Q, Pitta, and Jacoby in the playoffs, Flacco wouldn't have done as well."

Well, yeah, obviously, but that's true for absolutely every QB who has ever played at any level.

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"All Im saying is without Edelman, Gronk, and Vereen in the playoffs, Brady wouldn't have done as well" ...See? You can substitute any team's #1 WR, #1 TE, #3 WR and QB and that statement is still just as true. And it wasn't just losing Q, Jaco...

So has everyone turned off their notifications by now?

Not pounding the table for him, but the idea that he's done because of poor numbers in Minnesota may not be true - look at SSS, when we signed him last year half the board said we'd just signed a washed up 35 year old who was a waste of a roster spot. Sometimes just going to a better QB and having a starter across from you who is respected by defenses can make a major difference.

@Ravenslifer i agree completely, but declining isn't the only reason I don't see the Ravens getting him. I stated them previously.

Jeremy Butler supposed to be a strong step up this season.

i just see so much of Anquan Boldin in Jaelen Strong. Strong's vertical and power to go up and snatch a ball is similar to Boldin's. And Flacco and Boldin had GREAT chemistry with each other. I think WR at 26 and then one more in the 4th. We've done that before and it makes sense honestly. Unless Perriman is available then I think he could be our Julio Jones kind of, but that's a different topic. I still think Strong and Flacco will be a great tag team in the air.

What concerns me is his agility, he lacks burst out of breaks and route running savvy. I've also heard he isn't nearly as strong as Q (an asset you can use when you're lacking quickness).

He could develop these qualities over time (strength, route running) or not.

Do you think he'll be able to seriously develop route craftyness and unpredictabilty? (some do some don't - e.g. Torrey)

jalen strong will not be in the black and purp

While that's true Bmore, you'll also have answers to those assumptions prior to the draft, so it won't be an unknown by then.

Trust me, I wouldn't be jumping up and down and I'd probably feel the same way that I did about the Mosley pick- I understand the pick, great player, just not who I wanted.

I mean maybe not early but definitely in the mid rounds they could snag a small school QB with talent and potential but it would definitely make sense because next year flacco is getting paid way too much for his performance this year.

David Johnson, Tj Yeldon, or Tevin coleman type RB

if they havent alreaddy taken Gordon/Gurley. But i think AZ takes gurley III

i have AZ taking Gurley also. And I think someone like the Chargers will trade up after their first pick to draft Gordon before we are on the clock. I like Coleman and Johnson but not Yeldon, i think Yeldon is maxed out at potential.

Flacco was still on pace for well over 4000 yards with basically zero weapons. I think that's as close to chicken salad as you can get. Chicken parm maybe?

jazz1988 If you really watch, Brady, Aaron Rodgers, Drew Brees even back to Dan Marino they all have turned their decent WR corps to an above average WR group. If Edelman or Brandon LaFell or Marques Colston or Randall Cobb were to play for other QB's that are decent, they wouldn't put up the numbers that they had. Just look at Greg Jennings or James Jones, same situation. James Jones is doing pretty good right now because of Rodgers.

pechillo clearly didn't watch the Packers/Bears game last night. Or Tom Brady without Gronk last year. Is there a way to turn off notifications for this? lol

They made him a more than fair offer prior to the season. He turned it down and bet on himself. He talked about "maybe his last game as a Raven" which says he wants more money than he was offered. The Ravens are not going to up their offer based on his performance in 2014. And they shouldn't because he is a one trick pony.

^you have a good point. i just think we'll either bring back torrey or forsett, and i would want it to be frost

^you have a good point. i just think we'll either bring back torrey or forsett, and i would want it to be frost

why do you think Suggs was drafted? He broke the NCAA single season sack record and led the nation in sacks. He was drafted 22 overall. Orchard led the nation in sacks and is more of a solidified run stopper than sizzle was in college. All I'm saying is he's a late first round talent. The combine will show it, and if he hits 25 reps or more on the bench. He's the real deal. along with his 40 time.

suggs was drafted 10th overall and he was projected to go much earlier than that before his 40 time turned some teams off.

sizzle was probably the best DE in college football and the best pro prospect at DE all combined that year, he was a slam dunk pick, but some of those early teams probably wanted more "flash" from a top 10 pick(meaning a faster 40 time)

i wouldnt call strong a slot guy considering he catches the back shoulder-sideline fade better than any wr ive seen in a while lol

Like I said, I would very much welcome the addition of a WR on day one so long as he'll pan out a #1 (eventually). I guess we'll just have to wait and see what Ozzie does come April 30th boys.

I do really like Darius Davis as well. Check him out. probably the most underrated prospect in the draft. He can do damage in the league with right coaching.

Hill, Sankey, hyde, etc. were all very good prospects in their own right, just not 1st round guy.

Ajayi is currently my #3 RB (Coleman, Gurely above him) I just don't see him going later than the mid second.

thats true a lot of RB's will be flying off the board during the 2nd round

lawrence guy was a real under the radar beast last year, him and deangelo tyson make for real good depth, but i agree that investing at DE somewhere in the draft would help big time. trey flowers in the 4th is a good option

being a solid DE is good don't get me wrong. But the Ravens have a way of always being DOMINANT. And obviously the most intimidating D-lineman on our team is Ngata. (Though if Brandon Williams ever got on the line with me I'd probably poop my pants)

i disagree pertaining to Ngata, i think there are multiple teams that would trade for him, Oakland and Detroit to name a couple. A team would trade for the guarentee that Ngata goes there, if he hits the open market and teams start bidding the price may exceed what he is now

They are not pay cuts. They are restructuring the money. It usually means a higher base salary and it is then spreading out the remaining to be more cap friendly.

There's a difference between an extension and a restructuring. You can't restructure a contract that only has one year remaining without taking a paycut. Its impossible.

An extension was ALWAYS the goal of the Ngata talks. Never had anything to do with restructuring anything.

An extension is still not a paycut. Ngata is on the tail end of his career. An extension would have made him a Raven for life and taken that $16M cap hit and spread it out. That is all. Not a paycut.

You keep talking about prospects that are not likely to be the best player available at either the first or second round pick, so expecting one of them to be the pick is very unrealistic. I don't know why you keep trying to force a CB in the first round, because based on the talent pool it's very unlikely.

I suggest you do yourself a favor and actually look at years' past in terms of who we interviewed and who we ended up drafting - the lists were very different. A little effort and you'd know this.

I think you're the one missing the point. You actually act like you're Ozzie and you're really not. Harbaugh even said that Cornerback is a position they will address. we are one cornerback and one wr away from winning the super bowl. Things change when you're that close. Ozzie will obviously go BPA. Most likely the top corners will be gone by 26. So he'll most likely trade back. But when you're one corner away from winning the super bowl. You will get a cornerback to...

devin smith is certainly worth a late first or early 2nd, i have soured a bit on him but if he is coached up properly and refines his game, he actually has the potential to be the best wr from this class, nobody else in this class can make the spectacular catch like smith can, and it is a very coveted trait. his small body of work is concerning though

devin smith would simply be a role player on the ravens we need to get a franchise WR. sure he led the nation in yards/reception but thats not all that matters in the NFL, no way. YAC is crucial. Route running is crucial. Getting separation is crucial. And yeah his small body cannot get that separation nor can he get more yards after contact than Strong or any other bigger receiver. Smith didn't even run the 40 in the time everyone expected him to run it.

I just see him sliding down draft boards because he didn't produce much last year, he didn't even break 1000 yards. its kind of disrespectful considering him a 1st-2nd rd pick when other players who produced more last year are considered day 2 and 3 picks.

Gordon is Overrated I like Abdullah from Nebraska and Duke Johnson

Ya know i really don't think he's overrated i think he has a lot of talent more talent than trent richardson and he went #3 overall. I think he's on par with Leveon Bell, but better because of how explosive he is. Bell might be quicker but Gordon is more explosive.

Gordon isn't the receiving threat that Bell is and he had an amazing offensive line in college. Very violent, tough runner who has good open field moves and a nasty spin move, but possibly overrated.

RB's will rarely go in the first round since Goodell has made the NFL a passing league

I'd argue it's more about teams realising the running game is 80% OL, 20% RB and investing more in the guys around their backs.

Gordon will be gone If Gurley is there it would be Stupid to pass him up

lol we won the super bowl three seasons ago because of our awesome defense and because flaccos weapons made him look really good.

lmbo Seriously. Our defense was ranked 18th. They blew a 28-6 lead in the SB and nearly lost! And those weapons? Two of them just made Kap look so good he's sitting on the bench. The 3rd was cut from SD, is now a Steeler and did nothing again today. Get a grip.

Lol dude pechillo you're not serious right? You do realize that we gave up more points and yards than any other Super Bowl winning team in history right? Even the biggest Flacco haters will admit that 11-0 TD-INTs was the primary reason for that run.

Gresham is more than a blocking TE. he just hasn't reached his full potential. He still has been to multiple Pro Bowls.

okok i respect thatttt. There are alot of BIG Tightends in this draft ozzie can steal... No doubt Ozie will draft one. Ok maybe ozzie will get That monster from Penn state in the draft for a TE. Jesse James.. get our gronk uk???? But after a CB or safety thats how deep TE is

Build up some weapons for Joe Cool baby.. My boy Trestman would love itttt too.

If we could move up without giving up more than a third and a 5th, maybe. I don't think we'll risk the second round pick unless it's Amari Cooper, and even then I don't know if they'll do that.

I just really think Strong is our best option when it comes to a receiver in our vicinity of the draft, and i think other teams value his athleticism as much as the ravens do. If we can't get Strong in the first, we trade back and get more picks. More picks allow us to move up in the draft by trading as well. trading up in mid rounds would be awesome as well.

I could see them trading up for Agholor or Perriman in the 2nd, or trading up for Dezmin Lewis in the third. But probably not in the 1st.

I just hope Doctson can fall to us somehow

If the draft were today and Jared Goff fell to us, I'd want to trade with the Sailboats at #8 or Norleans for #9 - try to get a 2017 1st and 2016 4th or something. One of the DBs should be there at that 8 or 9 and we'd do ourselves a nice favour for next year.

if we trade back we still gain alot like a 3rd rounder

Gabriel, I blame the Raiders loss more so on Pees. We shouldn't have needed more than 30 points to beat a second year QB.

Well to be fair... as we see now that is a very competent offense with the o-line murray and the two wideouts... all im sayingis trestman could have easily won us that game

I was going to say Cardinals, Jax, and Dolphins. Raiders game was a disaster as a team effort.

You want to give more reps to players who have the potential to be big time players because you want more bang for your buck and thats the bottom line.

You are not the only one

Hoping somebody steps up is why the ravens offense is held back yr in and yr out!! Brown has shown nothing special to suggest he could be a #1 receiver. And to many #3 receivers is the ravens problem!!

Unfortunately, you lack the credentials to squash anything...

agreed hn68wb4 ... must.. not.. take.. the bait!

@rmcjacket23 I actually do. If TJ Yeldon is a quality start. By quality I mean getting over 1200 yards within his first 3 seasons. I will personally give you my address and you can come slap me in the face. If he is not, then you change your username to "Iwaswrong23" deal?

I'd take Tunsil but I don't like Stanley in the top 5 either, to me he is a border #10 guy. He's got great size but I really don't like his run blocking. That's the part of his game that I just can't get over to take him so high. If we trade back I think he becomes a possibility but at 4 or 5 he's a reach in my mind. I believe in general trading back is probably our best option, collect some future high picks and what not.

Trade back and grab Stanley. Grab Boyd with the original second and Yannick with the extra. Then bell or Thompson in the third. Boom. All needs addressed in 3 rounds.

Stanley may go top4 as well. But trading back and getting Stanley and Boyd would be awesome.

@pechillo; I disagree. TJ Yeldon at 6'1 225 has the size to handle the NFL load. Additionally, compared to previous Bama RB's he hasn't had the same amount of carries. He's had 576 carries in 3 seasons, which isn't a great deal at his size. I believe he's got a lot of room for improvement at 21 years old.

@TDubbs just because he has the size doesn't mean he has more potential, not every player in college has potential. You can tell by which ones do and which ones don't. Its tough to explain but its out there.

They're gonna draft Melvin or a big receiver. that's all. just need BIg bodies for Trestman. Yeldon, JAY AJAYI, are perfect targets. along with jalen and kevin white.