don't get me wrong love how we go defensive in the draft cuz i play on defense and very prideful about it, but when it comes to the team, we really gotta focus on giving Joe weapons. CB and Pass rusher is not a need. Thats not me saying we'll draft a day 2 prospect in the first round, but that trading back could make more sense for our needs.
Suggs and Doom are not spring chickens any more and are in their 30's but I don't doubt that they will be able to be solid pass rushers again. Upshaw also will be a free agent next year in 2016 and it's not even clear if The Ravens will be able to re-sign him so yeah that's makes it even more important to get a replacement now than later. Smith and Webb can be one of the best cornerback duo in the league but both are injury prone especially Webb. Asa Jackson seems to be hi...
Suggs & Doom might not be spring chickens but Smith Sr is even less of one and outside of him we have a receiving corps that has proven little. So I'd say weighing it out, WR/TE are much much bigger needs.
True. I think it depends on who's available honestly. The Ravens should stick to their board and not get desperate cause they need help at receiver position. I'm pretty sure they will address the receiver position in the first three rounds but I definitely will not be surprised if their first pick in the draft is a defensive player especially since I think most of the top receivers will be gone by the time they pick.
isn't it time to not be known for just defense? don't get me wrong Ravens defense is essentially the only old school and real football played anymore but I'm tired of Pats and Broncos etc. to be considered shoe-ins for the super bowl based off of QB and offense. Lets balance our defense with offense. aka Ozzie please draft a WR *not Devin Smith* and a TE
i wouldnt call strong a slot guy considering he catches the back shoulder-sideline fade better than any wr ive seen in a while lol
Like I said, I would very much welcome the addition of a WR on day one so long as he'll pan out a #1 (eventually). I guess we'll just have to wait and see what Ozzie does come April 30th boys.
I do really like Darius Davis as well. Check him out. probably the most underrated prospect in the draft. He can do damage in the league with right coaching.
WalterFootball.com Mock Draft is probably my favorite right now to be honest. But they shifted away from Ozzie loving his precious Defense. They went offense in the first 3 rounds.
Hill, Sankey, hyde, etc. were all very good prospects in their own right, just not 1st round guy.
Ajayi is currently my #3 RB (Coleman, Gurely above him) I just don't see him going later than the mid second.
thats true a lot of RB's will be flying off the board during the 2nd round
2xWR, 2xTE, CB, RB, DT, DE/OLB, C, T. All 10 picks.
maybe one TE and one Safety. But I say two TE's cuz we did that with Pitta and Dickson and we kept one of them who turned out to be really good.
1-wr, 2.cb, 3.rb, 4.wr, 5.olb, 6.dt, 7.de, 8.ol(g) 9.and 10. best player available. this would be my draft sequence with our ten picks regardless of which round we draft in.ideally i want to see us trading out of the first round to get an extra 3rd or 4th round pick.
Putta and Dickson TE draft class was increbily strong. This TE draft class in very weak
Would the Ravens trade up for a receiver? if so, who?
If we could move up without giving up more than a third and a 5th, maybe. I don't think we'll risk the second round pick unless it's Amari Cooper, and even then I don't know if they'll do that.
I just really think Strong is our best option when it comes to a receiver in our vicinity of the draft, and i think other teams value his athleticism as much as the ravens do. If we can't get Strong in the first, we trade back and get more picks. More picks allow us to move up in the draft by trading as well. trading up in mid rounds would be awesome as well.
I could see them trading up for Agholor or Perriman in the 2nd, or trading up for Dezmin Lewis in the third. But probably not in the 1st.
could definitely see Zach Miller on the Ravens.
Gresham is more than a blocking TE. he just hasn't reached his full potential. He still has been to multiple Pro Bowls.
okok i respect thatttt. There are alot of BIG Tightends in this draft ozzie can steal... No doubt Ozie will draft one. Ok maybe ozzie will get That monster from Penn state in the draft for a TE. Jesse James.. get our gronk uk???? But after a CB or safety thats how deep TE is
Build up some weapons for Joe Cool baby.. My boy Trestman would love itttt too.
Jaelen Strong, Duke Johnson, Josh Shaw
@pechillo; I disagree. TJ Yeldon at 6'1 225 has the size to handle the NFL load. Additionally, compared to previous Bama RB's he hasn't had the same amount of carries. He's had 576 carries in 3 seasons, which isn't a great deal at his size. I believe he's got a lot of room for improvement at 21 years old.
@TDubbs just because he has the size doesn't mean he has more potential, not every player in college has potential. You can tell by which ones do and which ones don't. Its tough to explain but its out there.
They're gonna draft Melvin or a big receiver. that's all. just need BIg bodies for Trestman. Yeldon, JAY AJAYI, are perfect targets. along with jalen and kevin white.
Greg Jennings just doesn't make that much sense...hes 31 and on decline. Last time he hit 1,000 yards was in 2010. Waste of cap space when we could grab Jaelen Strong for around a mil and get more production. marlon brown and Kamar Aiken and Camp all able to do as much as Jennings could
Not pounding the table for him, but the idea that he's done because of poor numbers in Minnesota may not be true - look at SSS, when we signed him last year half the board said we'd just signed a washed up 35 year old who was a waste of a roster spot. Sometimes just going to a better QB and having a starter across from you who is respected by defenses can make a major difference.
@Ravenslifer i agree completely, but declining isn't the only reason I don't see the Ravens getting him. I stated them previously.
Jeremy Butler supposed to be a strong step up this season.
had a nightmare last night that we traded Terrell Suggs to the Falcons. woke up in horror checked to see if it was true...thank God it was just a dream
could be worse, we could have traded him to the Steelers
I keep having this vision of us acquiring Muhammad Wilkerson from the Jets lol.
That would be great JO
What if...again just what if....Ravens plan on focusing back to Webb's contract post June 1st. If they can't get a restructure, cut him, get 8 mil. That could mean drafting a high CB to replace him.
Post June 1 cut leaves $4 mil in dead money. Question is - what is 8 mil saved in space good for at that stage?
the 8 mil you save can only be used after june 1 which would do us no good at this moment.
The other thing is Webb could ply FS and I am more than comfortable with that also I think as a post June 1 cut he is like 6mil in dead money next year
If we don't get a ring this upcoming year, we will have a dry next couple year. Yanda, Osemele, Jimmy, Upshaw and Will Hill all FA's next offseason.
Ray Rice and Yanda's cap hits disappear. We'll be able to keep two out of four of those FA's.
^^ exactly. we'll be sitting pretty a year from now i believe, we will be able to re-sign the MUST have guys like jimmy/ko/yanda, i think will hill gets a contract before the season starts, and upshaw will come very cheap due to his lack of numbers and spotlight. we'll have enough remaining cap space to make a splash if needed as well.
I don't see the FO letting Jimmy, Osemele or Yanda leaving... a receiver like Torrey is replaceable
I'd like to set eyes on Zach Miller or Virgil Green for TE, its become a need with Daniels gone and Pitta still a question mark.
if we get Webb to restructure, hopefully we can take a shot at getting Nick Fairley
if we get fairley it would be a dream come true. out front 7 would once again be elite. suggs, fairley, williams, jernigan, and doom. good luck
Fairley can play DT. he's similar to Haloti at which he can play DT and DE if he stays in shape. He was in Suh's shadow his whole career, i think he wants to be in a spotlight. He's the type of player where, if he's in the spotlight, he won't disappoint. Canty and Ngata are both our DE's and they're both gone. Fairley would definitely make sense. It is somewhat of a need.
Also, he's visiting the Bengals, and that would be dangerous running up the middle with their d-line if Fairley signs with them
bittersweet about Ngata. He cared about money more than winning another Super Bowl and helping out his team. But he also had an incredible career in B-more happy to have had him.
SUGGS IS A TRUE RAVEN! A TEAM PLAYER! THANKS T-SIZZLE!
sadly i dont see ngata taking notes, i think his money-vision will prevail
TEAM T-SIZZLE
Peyton is almost 40 years old Sami of course he took a pay cut
Hopefully we won't have to trade up to get Jaelen Strong, but if it comes to that, i think we should pull the trigger on it
devin smith is certainly worth a late first or early 2nd, i have soured a bit on him but if he is coached up properly and refines his game, he actually has the potential to be the best wr from this class, nobody else in this class can make the spectacular catch like smith can, and it is a very coveted trait. his small body of work is concerning though
devin smith would simply be a role player on the ravens we need to get a franchise WR. sure he led the nation in yards/reception but thats not all that matters in the NFL, no way. YAC is crucial. Route running is crucial. Getting separation is crucial. And yeah his small body cannot get that separation nor can he get more yards after contact than Strong or any other bigger receiver. Smith didn't even run the 40 in the time everyone expected him to run it.
I just see him sliding down draft boards because he didn't produce much last year, he didn't even break 1000 yards. its kind of disrespectful considering him a 1st-2nd rd pick when other players who produced more last year are considered day 2 and 3 picks.
does Haloti know he's not the best DT/DE in league anymore? Take the pay cut and be a team player if you want to win a Super Bowl sheesh
They are not pay cuts. They are restructuring the money. It usually means a higher base salary and it is then spreading out the remaining to be more cap friendly.
There's a difference between an extension and a restructuring. You can't restructure a contract that only has one year remaining without taking a paycut. Its impossible.
An extension was ALWAYS the goal of the Ngata talks. Never had anything to do with restructuring anything.
An extension is still not a paycut. Ngata is on the tail end of his career. An extension would have made him a Raven for life and taken that $16M cap hit and spread it out. That is all. Not a paycut.
wow...disappointed in Torrey. Thought he would appreciate home more than anyone else in the NFL. T-sizzle, Ray, Ed, all appreciated home more than money. Good luck to Torrey.
yeah i can't really blame him but i really had thought he was different compared to those other players that only care about $$ in the NFL
If he's going to SF, why would he leave upwards of 5 million dollars o the table just to stay at home.
Did Ray try to use the Cowboys as leverage to get more money. Money always talks. Glad Torrey made the best decision for him.
whether it be Rollins or J. Shaw one of them *OR BOTH* need to be in the purple and black
"Ravens predicted to release Haloti Ngata"-Jamison Hensley, ESPN
lawrence guy was a real under the radar beast last year, him and deangelo tyson make for real good depth, but i agree that investing at DE somewhere in the draft would help big time. trey flowers in the 4th is a good option
being a solid DE is good don't get me wrong. But the Ravens have a way of always being DOMINANT. And obviously the most intimidating D-lineman on our team is Ngata. (Though if Brandon Williams ever got on the line with me I'd probably poop my pants)
i disagree pertaining to Ngata, i think there are multiple teams that would trade for him, Oakland and Detroit to name a couple. A team would trade for the guarentee that Ngata goes there, if he hits the open market and teams start bidding the price may exceed what he is now
Could the Ravens bring back Cary Williams? They would have Webb, Smith, and Cary. But Ravens asked Webb to take pay cut, and now he's on the hot seat money wise.
They made him a more than fair offer prior to the season. He turned it down and bet on himself. He talked about "maybe his last game as a Raven" which says he wants more money than he was offered. The Ravens are not going to up their offer based on his performance in 2014. And they shouldn't because he is a one trick pony.
^you have a good point. i just think we'll either bring back torrey or forsett, and i would want it to be frost
^you have a good point. i just think we'll either bring back torrey or forsett, and i would want it to be frost