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easily the best status I've ever seen regarding the patriots after the Super Bowl. Especially the speculation they bring up every in the playoffs playing the ravens. They are a disgrace to football in my opinion.

All Im saying is without Q, Pitta, and Jacoby in the playoffs, Flacco wouldn't have done as well. And I proved that by pointing out his pathetic season where he had more INT's than TD's. We didn't have Q, Jacoby fell off, and Pitta got hurt. That is all I'm gonna say now. Because if you can't see that, we will never agree. We all want the same thing, to win the SB. And I think we'll actually win it this upcoming year.

so heres the bottom line. Do you guys think Flacco is elite? because thats essentially what the argument will boil down to.

well who else would be passing? Marshal Yanda? hahaha. I can go back to Trent Dilfer...Stokely Coates and Ismail all caught his passes too haha Dilfer is just average. Joe is definitely better than Dilfer but WR's save the Ravens QB's butts a lot, more often than it should.

obviously it was the whole team but offensively they stood out the most.

we had to play other teams before the super bowl right? idiot. Look up the stats throughout the playoffs that year how many yards and catches Q had. Jacoby also was a return freak in the playoffs. special teams are important too buddy.

We'll debate this back and forth for years. We disagree. and @ravensdfan you're continuing on about defenses when I'm talking about offense, obviously i know that the 2000 Ravens defense was better than 2012. That doesn't make my entire argument irrelevant. You're dancing around the subject. Now please do the ravens nation a favor and ice up son.

still has nothing to do with the argument. you are irrelevant.

Now what happened to Joe when Q was gone and Jacoby lost his spark? Flacco threw 22 int. and 19 Td's. That is all I need to prove my point.

But he also had passes where they were well placed. Anquan Boldin was on Hall of Fame status in the postseason in 2012. He numbers don't lie, look at his numbers, then look at the plays, you'll see the number of times where Q had to jump over a defender and make an outstanding catch.

Joe Flacco looked good because of Jacoby and Anquan. I stand by that statement. @ravensdfan You're proving my point. My point was that it wasn't all flacco. And the 2012 defense was actually very much within the realm of the 2000 defense We had a very good secondary and as always we had a very good front 7. He tied Joe Montana because of Q and Jacoby. He had a lot of passes that were not well placed.

They performed far better than any other offensive player with an exception to Joe Flaccos stats.

@BmoreBird22 You're telling me if we didn't have them we would have still had a great offensive run? Cmon now..

listen. if trent dilfer can win the super bowl for us, then Flacco sure can. It wasn't all Flacco. He did well, but Q really made Flacco look good on a lot of throws. Flacco definitely is on the same level as Philip and tell me when Flacco wins MVP then we'll discuss him being on the same level as A-Rod