If we don't get a ring this upcoming year, we will have a dry next couple year. Yanda, Osemele, Jimmy, Upshaw and Will Hill all FA's next offseason.
Ray Rice and Yanda's cap hits disappear. We'll be able to keep two out of four of those FA's.
^^ exactly. we'll be sitting pretty a year from now i believe, we will be able to re-sign the MUST have guys like jimmy/ko/yanda, i think will hill gets a contract before the season starts, and upshaw will come very cheap due to his lack of numbers and spotlight. we'll have enough remaining cap space to make a splash if needed as well.
I don't see the FO letting Jimmy, Osemele or Yanda leaving... a receiver like Torrey is replaceable
I'd like to set eyes on Zach Miller or Virgil Green for TE, its become a need with Daniels gone and Pitta still a question mark.
if we get Webb to restructure, hopefully we can take a shot at getting Nick Fairley
if we get fairley it would be a dream come true. out front 7 would once again be elite. suggs, fairley, williams, jernigan, and doom. good luck
Fairley can play DT. he's similar to Haloti at which he can play DT and DE if he stays in shape. He was in Suh's shadow his whole career, i think he wants to be in a spotlight. He's the type of player where, if he's in the spotlight, he won't disappoint. Canty and Ngata are both our DE's and they're both gone. Fairley would definitely make sense. It is somewhat of a need.
Also, he's visiting the Bengals, and that would be dangerous running up the middle with their d-line if Fairley signs with them
bittersweet about Ngata. He cared about money more than winning another Super Bowl and helping out his team. But he also had an incredible career in B-more happy to have had him.
SUGGS IS A TRUE RAVEN! A TEAM PLAYER! THANKS T-SIZZLE!
sadly i dont see ngata taking notes, i think his money-vision will prevail
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Peyton is almost 40 years old Sami of course he took a pay cut
Hopefully we won't have to trade up to get Jaelen Strong, but if it comes to that, i think we should pull the trigger on it
devin smith is certainly worth a late first or early 2nd, i have soured a bit on him but if he is coached up properly and refines his game, he actually has the potential to be the best wr from this class, nobody else in this class can make the spectacular catch like smith can, and it is a very coveted trait. his small body of work is concerning though
devin smith would simply be a role player on the ravens we need to get a franchise WR. sure he led the nation in yards/reception but thats not all that matters in the NFL, no way. YAC is crucial. Route running is crucial. Getting separation is crucial. And yeah his small body cannot get that separation nor can he get more yards after contact than Strong or any other bigger receiver. Smith didn't even run the 40 in the time everyone expected him to run it.
I just see him sliding down draft boards because he didn't produce much last year, he didn't even break 1000 yards. its kind of disrespectful considering him a 1st-2nd rd pick when other players who produced more last year are considered day 2 and 3 picks.
does Haloti know he's not the best DT/DE in league anymore? Take the pay cut and be a team player if you want to win a Super Bowl sheesh
They are not pay cuts. They are restructuring the money. It usually means a higher base salary and it is then spreading out the remaining to be more cap friendly.
There's a difference between an extension and a restructuring. You can't restructure a contract that only has one year remaining without taking a paycut. Its impossible.
An extension was ALWAYS the goal of the Ngata talks. Never had anything to do with restructuring anything.
An extension is still not a paycut. Ngata is on the tail end of his career. An extension would have made him a Raven for life and taken that $16M cap hit and spread it out. That is all. Not a paycut.
wow...disappointed in Torrey. Thought he would appreciate home more than anyone else in the NFL. T-sizzle, Ray, Ed, all appreciated home more than money. Good luck to Torrey.
yeah i can't really blame him but i really had thought he was different compared to those other players that only care about $$ in the NFL
If he's going to SF, why would he leave upwards of 5 million dollars o the table just to stay at home.
Did Ray try to use the Cowboys as leverage to get more money. Money always talks. Glad Torrey made the best decision for him.
whether it be Rollins or J. Shaw one of them *OR BOTH* need to be in the purple and black
"Ravens predicted to release Haloti Ngata"-Jamison Hensley, ESPN
lawrence guy was a real under the radar beast last year, him and deangelo tyson make for real good depth, but i agree that investing at DE somewhere in the draft would help big time. trey flowers in the 4th is a good option
being a solid DE is good don't get me wrong. But the Ravens have a way of always being DOMINANT. And obviously the most intimidating D-lineman on our team is Ngata. (Though if Brandon Williams ever got on the line with me I'd probably poop my pants)
i disagree pertaining to Ngata, i think there are multiple teams that would trade for him, Oakland and Detroit to name a couple. A team would trade for the guarentee that Ngata goes there, if he hits the open market and teams start bidding the price may exceed what he is now
Could the Ravens bring back Cary Williams? They would have Webb, Smith, and Cary. But Ravens asked Webb to take pay cut, and now he's on the hot seat money wise.
They made him a more than fair offer prior to the season. He turned it down and bet on himself. He talked about "maybe his last game as a Raven" which says he wants more money than he was offered. The Ravens are not going to up their offer based on his performance in 2014. And they shouldn't because he is a one trick pony.
^you have a good point. i just think we'll either bring back torrey or forsett, and i would want it to be frost
^you have a good point. i just think we'll either bring back torrey or forsett, and i would want it to be frost
Andre Johnson or Kenny Britt to the Ravens, I think one will likely happen. Britt rather than Johnson. for $$$ reasons
^agreed. I think he'd be a great addition to the team, but he's going to ask for too much and he's going to ask for the ball too much. I think a role WR is better than looking for a #1. I think we have our #1 with Steve Smith. He had an incredible year last year to start off. Slowed down a little bit towards the end, but still very productive. I would like Britt.
We have plenty of role WRs on the roster now. We do need a #1 guy - big, physical guy that will make contested catches and can actually get separation. Smith Sr is great for his age, but not a true #1 any longer.
I should've clarified, but yeah i agree.
I just wanna squash the whole TJ Yeldon to the Ravens scenario. He peaked his junior year. He has no more room for developing.
Unfortunately, you lack the credentials to squash anything...
agreed hn68wb4 ... must.. not.. take.. the bait!
@rmcjacket23 I actually do. If TJ Yeldon is a quality start. By quality I mean getting over 1200 yards within his first 3 seasons. I will personally give you my address and you can come slap me in the face. If he is not, then you change your username to "Iwaswrong23" deal?
Think we resign Torrey and let Forsett walk.
I think Daniels, Forsett, and Torrey all walk, and we get an FA WR and Draft WR and FA TE and draft RB
Think we do it the other way around, only because Forsett will probably come at a more reasonable price tag. Totally possible they both walk.
Torrey isn't the type of player that wants money over a winning team. I think he truly loves Baltimore especially since he was drafted here, went to Maryland, grew up in VA, and his son was born there. He's like T Sizzle in my opinion. He cares about winning and sentimental value to his team. Just my opinion.
Which positions will be first three picks?
As we know whatever the members wish for Oz picks his agenda. So for fantasy..A RB,WR then S
Ozzie has picked a MLB, S, and DT in the first three rounds the last two rounds
TE,WR,CR, then a RB
Trade back to get Perriman? Thoughts?
@BmoreBird22 I agree he's pretty inconsistent with his hands but so was Torrey and he developed. When it comes to types of WR's we already have an Algholor and Smith in Torrey. If we don't sign him back then I can see us getting one of them two, but if we sign back Torrey we would probably look for a big bodied tough to take down bulldozer as a receiver and I think Perriman fits that mold.
I don't think Torrey Smith is back to be honest, but I personally don't like Perriman too much just because of the hands. It's something very worrisome coming out of college because it's a lot tougher to make contested catches in the NFL. He's a really physical specimen and could turn out to be a really great receiver, but those hands scare me.
I wouldn't mind if we picked him there. Though I don't think F.O would trade back for Perriman, I think F.O would trade back for someone who's falling like Shane Ray or maybe Nate Orchard.
really sad Jacoby's gone. Anquan and Jacoby were the only reasons why we won the super bowl in 2012
Not to mention that Jacoby caught nine passes this past season and Joe had career highs in yards and touchdowns, despite several new receivers
"All Im saying is without Q, Pitta, and Jacoby in the playoffs, Flacco wouldn't have done as well."
Well, yeah, obviously, but that's true for absolutely every QB who has ever played at any level.
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"All Im saying is without Edelman, Gronk, and Vereen in the playoffs, Brady wouldn't have done as well" ...See? You can substitute any team's #1 WR, #1 TE, #3 WR and QB and that statement is still just as true. And it wasn't just losing Q, Jaco...
So has everyone turned off their notifications by now?
Josh Shaw looked absolutely incredible at the combine. He's flying under the radar but he has 1st round talent.
He looks like a FS in the NFL or a strict press man corner
Ya know @Dubs I didn't watch the Senior Bowl and I did hear that he struggled, but in the Ravens' Article earlier. It said that Josh Shaw actually impressed the Horitz.
He's probably better suited to play safety than CB. Mid-round pick.
Trade back or pick at 26?
Green-Beckham will be taken by somebody in the 1st, he's too much of a freak to pass up.
he's definitely a freak but so was tyrann mathieu and ray ray armstrong. I think either Marcus Peters or Green-Beckham will go in the 2nd. other will go in the 1st, but the whole background off field issues are a problem for every team. Even if their interview process goes well. Green-Beckham was also involved with domestic violence and thats a very sensitive subject in the league right now. So we'll see, I could be completely wrong haha the draft is crazy man
I think if Strong is there TAKE HIM