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    This is another side of the same argument.

    The NFL is experiencing a decline in fan attendance and people watching the games on whatever day they are played. I personally don't believe, like others, that as a result of changes to the game, saturation, Kaepernick kneeling for the flag or any other reason, that people come up with, is just an excuse people use whenever they want to complain that NFL interest is waning. What the teams and the NFL fail to realize is there is no allegiance to players and teams because players are now just rented as opposed to being actual team members that fans grow accustomed to and grow to like. Then when they leave they cause one of two reactions; either fans leave to go with their favorite player to another team (which I have seen quite often), or they hate the player and boo him when he comes to town. The feelings that develop between fans and players are not just wham bam thank you fan affairs, fans get to know players, players families, their children, or like Torrey Smith, a local boy, who attracted attention at Maryland, then signed with the Ravens and he seemed like a family member not just a player on the team I support. I can't tell you the number of jerseys we have in our family of players that no longer play for the Ravens. At $100 a pop, it is very frustrating and personally, I don't even buy NFL gear anymore. This is a direct result of the johnny come lately system the NFL and NFLPA have evolved into.

    If the NFL doesnt want to continue to go down the road of losing fans, year after year, as they did the last two years, they really need to look at a way to address the facts that fans have no connection to players anymore and therefore have no connection to the game. Seeing their favorite player play isn't a big deal because they have no favorite player as a result of the revolving door policy. The NFL and NFLPA need to look at giving a "home town subsidy" to the team that players are presently playing with by subsidizing the contract of the player if he chooses to stay with his team, keeping the fan base of the team, thus keeping the fans of NFL football, making buying a player jersey something more than just a three year investment.

    To me its not all the peripheral stuff that goes on with the NFL that is affecting the fan base. Its not the saturation of the game since we are playing three days a week now. Its not because of the legal issue of players and its not any of the other things that pundits point out. It is the fact that there is no desire to support a faceless team and when players come and go like they change their underwear, why watch. And when you win a super bowl and just three years later only have 4 people left on the team from that super bowl team, then what is the motivation to continue to support a faceless team that changes its roster every 4 years.

    Don't forget too many commercials during games on TV as one of the reasons viewership is down. I now watch NFL games on TiVo and I can watch an entire NFL game in 90 mins without all the garbage commercials.

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      On 1/4/2017 at 0:48 PM, rmcjacket23 said:

    1. He's damn of he does, damned if he doesn't. Lets say John does what fans want him to do and fire both of his coordinators... what does that say about John? He hired Trestman and fired him within two years, then fired his replacement, and then fired his DC... in like a day.

    What does that say about his own talent evaluation that the coaches he hired weren't very good?

    I've said this before... show me the HC in this league that fired both of his coordinators in a short period of time and then kept his own job very long? By firing both of your coordinators, you're admitting that you screwed up, and now your boss knows it. Who do you think he blames next?

    I agree he's covering his own butt, but I also can't blame him for it, because its the only way he keeps his job. If I were the Owner or GM, and I saw my HC can both of his coordinators, I'd probably just fire the HC.

    2. Nobody will admit anything, but yes, its a talent problem. I think that's pretty clear at this point. They are old in areas where they should be young, and they have players underachieving. I suppose you could blame some of that on coaching, but a lot of these guys have been playing football for decades now, and a lot of the underachievers are veterans who shouldn't need a ton of coaching at this point.

    We will see coaching changes, and the fact that he has to answer questions about his coordinators indicates that he's aware that the perception is that its a coaching problem.

    As is usually the case, its a combination of both. But I can say for certain that without a talent upgrade at several key spots, I don't care who the coaches are, because it won't matter.

    1) Bingo. Maybe it is time the head coach goes as well. There is a problem in Baltimore and apparently the people running the ship don't know exactly how to fix it. The same problems exist every season. But to answer your question what does it say?

    It says that Trestman doesn't run an offense as close to Kubiak as you thought. Marty wasn't brought in to be an OC anyway, so you're not really firing him, you're just not extending his 'interim" tag. Pees has been around for years and while his defenses ranked no worse than 12th save for the injury plagued season of 2015, they have a recurring problem. So to me it shows me that a Head Coach is more interested in trying to win than saving his back side, which...if he does win, he does the latter by default. You keep your job by winning.

    There is some talent on this team and the issue is using it correctly. This team worked best when it had two speed blazers in Torrey Smith and Jacoby Jones running deep and made defenses worry about both of those guys burning them deep and a power run scheme while a healthy Pitta worked underneath with Boldin because the top was taken off the defense by Jones and Smith. Now we run this stupid WC defense where teams just run a zone and all of our wideouts are all bunched up together 10 yards or less down the field. Instead of pounding the rock with our one-cut backs we try to send them on these weird sweeps and forever to develop counter plays. Cut the cutie pie stuff and just slam the ball. That actually was how this running game got its success. Running between Yanda and Stanley on the left and between Ducasse and Wagner on the right. West and Dixon would then break a tackle or two. Go figure.

    #2 is spot on. No playmakers/stars. No playoffs. Every team in the playoffs has stars and/or playmakers. Even Houston has Hopkins and Miller.

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