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The only guy I would possibly trade up for is Adams. I think he is easily the 2nd most talented player in the draft behind Myles Garrett. But I think he is taken by the 49ers a #2. As much as I like Hooker, I would only take him if he fell to #16 and that is coming from one of the biggest Ed Reed fans there is. I think Hooker will be good, but I don't think it is worth giving up a 2nd round selection to move up 5-8 spots to get him. I think there are plenty of talented players that will be available at #16 and this team needs the draft picks to fill some needs. The first four picks in the first three rounds of this year's draft will dictate which side of .500 this team ends up next season. 

Bold Prediction: Desmond King is taken in the first round. He has been shut down in college and the myth that he is too slow for the NFL I don't think holds water. I really think he still looks like a top 5 cornerback on tape.

I really like the picks in this mock, but I do not think Kupp slides that far. I think if the Ravens land Kupp it would have to be in the second round. I could see the Ravens trading back into the tail end of the 2nd round and picking up Kupp as well as another 4th round pick.

28 minutes ago, rossihunter2 said:

im just not sure that his style of play is what the ravens are missing - it doesnt matter how good a route runner he is or how many bombs he caught in college it's still more of the same in all honesty - ozzie specifically mentioned getting a complementary receiver which suggests to me bringing in a player with a different skillset to what's already on the roster who can mesh with the receivers already on the roster - to my eyes (albeit not professional eyes) that means a big bodied/lengthy guy who can make catches on the outside in the intermediate passing game - that strikes me as more the other two than ross

You said it better than I ever could Rossi I would agree 100%. Ravens need a chain-mover. 

35 minutes ago, ravensnation5220 said:

To his credit, Ross had 17 touchdowns last year. He's a better route runner than people give him credit for. 

Yeah but I am afraid how well he matches up in the redzone at the next level. A lot of his touchdowns were big plays compared to 9 yard touchdown grabs. He is a playmaker, but I think he is not what the Ravens need.

51 minutes ago, Vitalvicious said:

You can throw out any state you want to against certain players. Where does he rank amongst every cornerback in the league? If he was so "good" why are the horrible Cowboys so willing to let him go? A 30 yr old CB signing a 4 year contract is a JOKE! 

Ranked around 30 as a cornerback with nothing around him on the Cowboys defense isn't terrible. He was a cheap signing and the deal is a 2 year deal that can be a 4 year deal if he continues to play at a high level. This team got one of the better complimentary corners in the league who has stayed healthy during his career. Also adds a big body on the outside. Some people just have to complain about everything.

20 hours ago, rossihunter2 said:

the problem is not that joe is posting average stats for the early 2000s/90s his stats are way more pass-era oriented - if anything we need him to go back to older times - we dont want him throwing as much as he did last year or getting to 4000 yards unless the YPA is much higher - and no one expects him to play like alex smith but we also are realistic - he's a franchise qb who you have to pay or he doesnt stay and therefore your organisation goes as he goes which wasnt very good last year but he has shown he can be a top 10 qb - just look at how well he played two years ago when he had a running game (he didnt even have a great receiving corps that year) - give joe an offensive line and a running game and have him another year removed from the ACL and he will look much better - now if in another year or two he still hasnt improved then that's when you start getting worried but that's also when you can start thinking about replacing him if thats the case - as it is now joe is our guy and he is paid at market value for his talent so there's no real reason to complain about it

in terms of alex smith - he's not paid much differently to flacco - its just those contracts were structured a slightly different way - flacco got a much larger signing bonus but smith is paid more as a base salary - the actual difference is only about 4-5 million a year i think which is fair given their differing ceilings - and as the chiefs are finding out, alex smith can get you to a great regular season record but as soon as you hit the playoffs and you have more evenly matched teams, he is proving that he probably cant win you a superbowl

As much as people want to give Flacco crap, he was coming off of an injury which affected his accuracy a bit. I bet there will be a huge improvement next year.

I agree with you I mean look at the supporting cast Flacco has had.... Looking at the film his YPA was so low because of the receivers inability to get open on a consistent basis. He had to dump the ball off to West or Dixon too many times last year. Also the offense was built around the short passes and screens which is not Flacco's strength which still baffles me the team even went that way last season.

I mean you have a 37 year old receiver coming off a torn achilles last season, Mike Wallace (a speedster), and Perriman (a speedster) and you are running screens and short curls and expect them all to come up with shifty YAC.

The Ravens need to get back to getting those 4-5 yard power runs with the big deep throws a few times a game. 

9 hours ago, rossihunter2 said:

Foster, Barnett or Davis would be my dream picks...

And as a side note: was it just me who wasn't surprised by the Leonard floyd pick?

I wasn't surprised at all I really liked Floyd in college. I thought he would be top 20 for sure. I wanted him to add weight but he seemed to have a solid rookie campaign.

7 hours ago, Boddiebroadus said:

I like Harris over Williams 

I am one of the few that still like Harris over most DEs in this draft. I am warming up to Barnett but I am still afraid of his lack of athletic talent hindering his growth at the next level. Harris has that burst and speed that Dumervil had on this defense that I think would compliment Suggs well. 

32 minutes ago, flynismo said:

I'd take Ross in a heartbeat. Would we not add Marvin Harrison just because Harrison's skill set doesn't complement Perriman and Wallace? LOL!

And obviously I'm not calling Ross the next Marvin Harrison. This offense needs playmakers, and Ross is probably the biggest one at WR.

I disagree I think Ross was a 2nd round talent until he posted a 4.22. I think I would rather have Zay Jones and Cooper Kupp than John Ross. 

The offense's problem last year wasn't moving the ball. There were a lot of good drives. The problem was getting touchdowns on those drives. Seemed like the offense stalled inside the red zone and settled for field goals, or failed 4th down attempts. 

The offense needs some height and some bully especially after the departure of Steve Smith.

Just now, rmw10 said:

Looks like no Morris Claiborne here...

 

Well poop

7 minutes ago, BOLDnPurPnBlacK said:

I get the Claiborne injury concerns.

But riddle me this... should we be scared and sign someone who we expect to play 16 games but KNOW isnt going to be good enough?

OR should we sign the 1 guy left that is good enough to really be an upgrade, and HOPE taht he can play close to 16 knowing that the only reason we have a shot at such a quality player is bc of his past injury problems?

We're going to draft a CB pretty high either way. Only difference is do you need him to start to save your season, or do we have a Plan B.

Yep do we want another Shareece Wright in the building, or a guy who was shutdown when healthy?

Plus people cannot predict injuries. 

On 3/15/2017 at 11:55 AM, lgcs27288 said:

Please tell me the last time a team traded within their division... please.

He. Is. A. Free. Agent.

6 hours ago, Bruce_Almty said:

This is the year of defensive studs and low and behold the Ravens are positioning themselves that it seems the only way they can eclipse an 8-8 record next year is if they draft offensive linemen early. Either Garett Bolles or Ryan Ramczyk at 16 to replace Rick Wagner and either Pat Elflein or Ethan Pocic to replace Zuttah in the 3rd. With a lot of luck they may even be able to grab a decent edge or CB in the 2nd round. Hoping for some Ozzie magic.

The Ravens won't take an O-lineman at 16 I don't think anybody thinks any of the linemen in this draft are that good. 

People there is still a whole wave of free agents in June. That is when the Ravens usually sign most guys because they are a lot cheaper for the production they bring. 

1 minute ago, The Raven said:

I don't know if anyone say Juice's tweet about Zuttah joining him in San Fran, but it alluded to the "#widezone."

I think that's a clear as day indication that we're moving far, far away from the stretch zone.

From what the front office has said it sounds like the Ravens want to be a downhill, big bruising, running team. Which means the team needs a bigger RT and C who can actually push forward. And it makes sense the Ravens have West and Dixon who are able to break tackles and push piles. The team needs more of those 4-5 yard runs on first down. Too many 3rd and longs last year.

I just like Kupp because he has fantastic hands, hand-eye coordination, and body control. Reminds me a lot of Doug Baldwin when catching the ball. I think he will be steal. I think the small school will cause him to have some hiccups early on. But I think he has those clutch player traits this team would really want to have on this team.

10 games of Claiborne > Malcolm Butler...

Add in that Claiborne will likely be cheaper than Butler as well here in 2 years... Plus you get to keep the draft pick. 

57 minutes ago, rossihunter2 said:

ill admit im not really a fan of cooper kupp - would prefer juju or zay jones to kupp

I could see Zay Jones over Kupp but I think Kupp fits that possession mold better. But I really do not like Juju, I really think there is bust written all over that guy. I think his teammate, Rodgers, is actually the better receiver.

In my opinion.. 10 games of Morris Claiborne > 16 games of Malcolm Butler.

Corey Davis is my #1 but I do love how Williams plucks the ball and is able to dive and jump and catch rediculous catches. I love how that ball does not wobble in his hands when he catches the ball. 

But with Williams running a 4.6.... I would almost rather get Kupp in the 2nd round value wise. 

Just now, jazz1988 said:

Neither did Emmauel Sanders before he was signed to The Broncos. My point isn't that Claiborne hasn't shown to be injury prone so far in The NFl but my point is that he's too talented or his upside is too good for The Ravens to not give him a shot. The Ravens are still going to draft  a cornerback in this year draft regardless on who they sign but again that shouldn't stop them from signing Claiborne. Caliborne may end up signing with The Ravens then up playing in every game and become the outside corner The  Ravens been missing since Corey Graham .

Perfectly said. 

36 minutes ago, Tru11 said:

he has never played a full season in his career and its pretty much guaranteed that someone in the ravens secondary will get injured lol.

i would not bet on claibourne not getting injured.

While you can't guarantee a player from not getting injured, you could tell last year the Ravens were substantially healthier and in better shape and got less injured last year with the new conditioning coach. Also Claiborne was asked a lot more than he would here and that would cause more stress on muscles. If he was here and surrounded by other pieces I think there is a less likely chance he gets injured. Jimmy Smith's injury was a freak accident from a player landing on him, when usually he has those non-contact baby injuries that keeps him out. 

1 hour ago, sflegend89 said:

The offense has been abysmal and it has only gotten worse thus far in FA with the loss of Wagner, Juice, and SSS. If anyone thinks we're fixing whats wrong with this offense in the draft alone you're delusional. 

I don't think you have read anybodys' posts on here if you really just said that.....

I don't like Ross. Davis and Williams would be better picks in my opinion. If not them get Kupp in the second.

4 minutes ago, Number23 said:

I don't know about cutting Zuttah now. Considering how few linemen are left on the marker, I don't know if we can find an upgrade there or get anyone to produce for cheaper. Now we've got 2 holes on the O-line and a relatively weak O-line class in the draft which seems like trouble.

There is still another free agency period that hasn't started yet..............