trevorsteadman

Like I said before it is up to Butler and Brown to make the roster for the receivers now. And in my head they will take Marlon Brown because he shined in 2013 and Butler has yet to do anything in Marlon Brown's absence. Waller will make it because of his potential the Ravens are not going to waste a 6th round pick on a guy they knew was raw and needed time to develop they drafted him because of his rare height and speed. I wouldn't be surprised if both Waller and Perriman saw significant time on the field this season because of Trestman loving to use huge receivers like he did in Chicago. Think of the speed and size of Waller and Perriman on the outsides for us and the potential that could be there in the next 3 years.

Yes his condition tends to end in adolescence. The reason he has been out longer is because of a MCL sprain. Being careful with their first pick in the draft as they should when they don't need to rush him back.

The first two preseason games the coaches do not prepare for. Only game 3 is a game type environment. Games 1 and 2 is just a scrimmage to see which of the players will stay on the roster. If they can't find separation in a scrimmage they won't in an NFL game. If a corner cannot cover a receiver in a scrimmage he won't in a game. Game 3 is what they prepare for because starters play 3 quarters. If Flacco throws 2 picks next week then I would worry but as of now don't worry at all. The defense played well last season and they only lost back ups and got better people in the back end in my opinion. What I am really looking for in preseason week 3 is which of the receivers get open to lock up a roster spot. Also looking to see who will be the starting tight end in Gilmore or Williams (even though I think it will be Gillmore to start the season off but Williams has shown good play making ability already). Taliaferro was a huge loss which may keep us with 4 running backs on the roster until he is back which may knock a wide receiver or cornerback off the roster. I think we will be fine with Forsett and Allen with Juice being a 3rd string if needed but I wouldn't be surprised if they kept 4 now until he is back

Whoever he retires as it doesn't matter. He is still a top 10 receiver of all time. 14th all time as of today in receiving yards but compared to the other receivers above him he has had to deal with really bad quarterbacks outside of 1-2 years with Cam Newton and these two years with Flacco. Stud all around and I respect his decision either way. Just love watching the guy play on Sunday.

Dickson never fully developed... The draft hype was too high for him. He had every physical trait you look for in an every down tight end and he couldn't catch the ball. Solid blocker but blocking only gets you 2nd or 3rd on a team's depth chart.

Tyrod looked great yesterday and should have had a touchdown passed if the receiver held on to an easily catch. That receiver won't even make the Bills roster. He should be the starter, Cassel has proven to just be a bottom of the league starter while Tyrod yesterday showed he can move the ball effectively. As long as that O-line holds from him like they did yesterday against a pretty good Browns defense, he has a shot to be a quality starter in the NFL especially when McCoy comes back.

If this were true I don't think the Ravens would have placed Pitta on the PUP list. If there is no chance a player is coming back you cut him and take the dead money and move on and keep that extra roster place for a player. Pitta looked great until his hip injury again. Not saying it won't happen again but he is rehabbing it back for Football so I do think he does play football. Would be smart if the Ravens waited another year to play him and not rushed him like I felt they did last time he injured his hip but we will see. Probably won't be the same player but better to just pay the dead money now and not pay him his entire paycheck instead for the entire season if there is that zero chance.

At this point I think it is down to Marlon Brown or Jeremy Butler making the roster. Smith, Perriman and Aiken are locks. Campanaro and Waller are making strong cases right now in the preseason. The Ravens won't keep 4 tight ends and 7 receivers.... So I think they do keep 6 receivers and with Marlon's injury and Butler lackluster practices recently (even though he did have a great mini camp back in June) my guesssit is Butler is going to be cut and unfortunate because he has a great upside. They will try to sign Butler and Carter to the practice squad but we all know one or both will probably be signed to another team and they have that talent to be situational players on another team. Carolina with their injury to Kelvin Benjamin would probably love to have Butler as their slot guy.

Compared to the rest of the receivers battling for the #2 and #3 spots he has. He is the one that is consistently making plays. With his limited opportunities with the other 6-7 battling for roster spots he has been finding soft spots. He has been in a lot of articles recently. I wasn't a huge Campanaro fan when he was drafted but if he keeps finding separation I will learn to like him. That was one of our biggest weaknesses last year and the last several years. We don't have that true #1 receiver like a lot of teams do and that makes our offense stand still in about half our games for at least a quarter or two. I'm not saying he is playing like Wes Welker in his prime, but 2 weeks ago people were talking about him being the one let go by the Ravens and now after he plays in a game and against an opposing team he is catching them all.

I don't see Webb getting cut because of the dead money resulting in terminating his contract. Plus with how many injuries the Ravens had last season in the secondary, I bet they hold onto him because he is a solid starter in the NFL. His PFF score was low last year because everybody's was besides Jimmy Smith because when Smith went down so did the entire secondary. Reid is on the bubble for sure with Myers coming in but I think the Ravens keep Reid because of depth and if Monroe, Wagner, or Hurst went down I think he is the next person you look to. Asa Jackson wouldn't surprise me especially when Levine last year played corner for us and did an okay job. Arthur Brown has a high chance of being cut because Orr has outplayed them. I wouldn't be surprised if Steven Means also made the roster he is a deep reach but he has been playing alright as well.

Williams and Jernigan playing well is a great sign... Also Carl Davis having a strong showing as well. The Ravens may have just set up their defensive line for the next 10 years.

Waller's 6'6 frame will keep him in the NFL. I think he will secure the last roster spot as the Ravens will try to put Butler on the practice squad. Trestman loves big guys and I think Waller won't get a ton of throws, but he will get some throughout the season and he will help us in red zone situations. Campanaro is now playing lights out so he is in. Perriman and Smith are locks. Aiken also has shown starter potential. The receiver who should be worried about making the team is Marlon Brown with his history of injuries and him not playing as much better if not worse than he did his rookie season. I loved the guy back in 2013 but he has struggled this season. My bet is the receiver battle goes down to whether the Ravens like Butler's upside or Brown's upside more and that is difficult to say because Marlon Brown was in the starter conversation before the offseason began.

Melvin's Mountain?

Still a lot of bubble players. Only players that were locked were pretty much starters and a couple back ups with roles. It's sad to think Waller our 6th round pick may be cut but I think that Waller has the higher ceiling out of him and Butler and Butler has slowed down a lot. One player I haven't heard at all this offseason is Tray Walker. How has he been playing? Does he look like he can be a potential starting cornerback in 2-3 years?

Right? Better now than later. It's a bruised knee and a sprained knee it takes time to heal but better to have an injury now than mid season.

Most his drops were from when he was younger he only dropped like what 5 balls his last year of college, and from what I heard before he was injured he was constantly making plays and didn't have a problem with his hands. The Ravens were 4th in dropped passes last season, Steve Smith was the 3rd highest player for dropping the ball while Torrey Smith was the 25th. So if you really think that players like Steve Smith and Torrey Smith have bad hands, two solid NFL receivers..... I guess they are busts too because they drop the ball now and then. Perriman the first day of training camp got open consistently, unlike most our receivers. Too bad he got injured but it happens and better now than mid season. If people would actually watch his college tape the reason he had so many drops his second year at UCF was because he was diving everywhere and catching insanely bad passes from Blake Bortles, and in a lot of peoples' eyes Perriman made Bortles a 3rd overall pick in the NFL draft. Sounds like Perriman's bruise is gone, or near, but is still working with a sprain for another week but when he gets on the field he will surprise people because his height and speed combo was the best in the draft outside of Amari Cooper. Having fans give up on a draft pick before he has even had a regular season game is a joke especially when he was playing with the 1st team offense before going down with an injury.

It's only 2 weeks of practice and people are saying Perriman is on the IR.... People freak out way too much bruises on joints like the elbow and knee take around 1-4 weeks to get better in most cases. Of course there are always some more severe. The coaching staff would have said if it was serious. A bruise isn't going to heal if he's straining it in practice every day and landing on it, that makes it bigger and more of a problem. It's been two weeks relax. If he doesn't play by preseason game 3 that is when you need to start questioning where Perriman really is.

If Webb or Smith went down with injury Rashaad Melvin would be put into the #2 role. Arrington has proved to be one of the best slot corners in the game but he has also showed to be pretty terrible when playing on the outside. Arrington played well last night except when he was at safety but I think they just wanted to see what would happen if a safety went out if they would want him there. I think the Ravens talent wise has enough like last year to go deep into the play offs but they need to either have perfect execution to go to a super bowl and not have any major impact injuries. I am excited to see what players will be cap casualties when the third preseason game is upon us to see if we can get some good deals to help this football team. Right now all we need is to be healthy and keep practicing hard.

He was doing great with the 1's at slot... Right now he is playing out of position with the 2's and it's not helping when Orr let the guy right past him.

Back up defense looks terrible.... Hopefully the injury bug doesn't hit us again or someone is going to put up 10 touchdowns in a game against us.

I think the Saints won't play Brees knowing his resume and also knowing Baltimore's defense resume. Don't want him knocked on his butt the first preseason game.

I'm not watching either but seeing Forsett only get 4 yards on 2 carries and Allen also not doing so well, then with LT getting a couple big runs at the first of the drive and a good 9 yard catch. They left LT on the field because of the momentum and him actually being able to get some yards.

Weren't we like 2nd or 3rd in 4th down attempts last year? Harbs is one of the most aggressive head coaches in the game. People saying we wouldn't go for it in a regular season game didn't see last year. I some times would pull my hair out because we would fail in the redzone twice in the same game and that changed outcomes in games. I like the aggressiveness but when we don't convert it makes me wanna scream.

And people were complaining saying Juice wouldn't be used this season... And he had a big chunk of yards the first drive of the preseason

And people were complaining saying Juice wouldn't be used this season... And he had a big chunk of yards the first drive of the preseason