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I would honestly have to agree with that. I loved Pagano as a defensive coordinator because he just got it with the players. Truly a players coach on defense.

Yeah sadly I don't see it happening but one can dream.

I don't know why he'd want to come back. Just like how Rex Ryan would never come back, not that I'd really mind him not coming back.

Don't pull the "switch with [insert terrible team here] and see how you'd like that". I am in no way claiming Harbaugh is "ruining the team". He simply has made small mistakes and when they are corrected we will not have a bottom 5 offense. Simple as that. I'm not trying to persecute him, I love Harbaugh.

Well saying he puts friends before winning could be implied as though he isn't doing what's in the best interest for the team, which could then be implied as "ruining." All I'm saying is, every coach in the NFL except Jason Garrett (who has people forced down his throat by Jerry) hires people they are familiar with.

I admit that was a bit much of me to say. However it doesn't seem like Harbaugh knows all the best people for the job, if that's the case.

Ummm... when they brought in Kubes... didn't they bring his with him?

Mom - No, they hired some guy from the college ranks who has NFL experience as a WR.

The Ravens hired Engram... The guy worked as an offensive assistant with the 49ers in 2011. Then in in 2012 and 2013, he was the wide receivers coach at the University of Pittsburgh. Before that, he was a wideout with the Chicago Bears, Seattle Seahawks and the Kansas City Chiefs.

and then torrey turned down respectable contract offers twice, he bet on himself once, lost, and then turned down our next contract offer which supposedly was basically the same as the first one offered, and he turned that one down, for an extra 500k over 4 years in SF. they did it to themselves.

Torrey IMO pulled every bit a Cundiff move on that last play. Just a wee bit of effort and it is at least not an INT. Oh well - be a loser in SF. See how you like it. Still have some Boldin love - perhaps it is more respect - but making the claim he'd retire a Raven before putting on another Jersey & then refusing a pay cut - kind of left a bad taste in my mouth. Another who will reap what he sowed.

i dont have much love for boldin after that classless and desperate money grab. i still got love for torrey, but he boned us on that play by completely giving up and cost us a trip to the AFCCG and then ditched us for a small difference of money, and after CA income tax, he actually makes less than what he wouldve gotten by taking our deal. so yeah i feel they just chased a couple extra pennies and said to hell with baltimore

that's this year. look at the QB caliber we faced. We don't get that next year - in fact, going back to what you said about things changing - it could be an even more difficult schedule than it appears right now.

And it could be an easier schedule... time will tell. A lot of the teams on our upcoming schedule have major question marks.

Based on what I see, what QBs are we really talking about here? Manning, Rivers and Wilson? That's even assuming Manning comes back, which he probably does. The rest of the list is basically mid-tier QBs, and ideally we will have an improved secondary by then.

The defenses figure to be better, sure. But you could argue that the offenses could...

Yes... and I agree with jacket 30ppg on a consistent basis gets us the key # 1 seed and for h ravensdfan the Denver coaching shocker yesterday has yet to be concluded. Also, The stench of that SD game will not be forgotten.

Can he play Center?

no hes the softest reciever Ive ever seen
Im tired of the soft people on this embarressment of a team

In the last couple of weeks, I've seen Perriman though limited make plays we wish Torrey could. Patience

very impressive,,,BUT we do have poor coaches we should have never been in this scenario, think about those past lost games and it hurts,,,,,,,,,,,,,

Getting complacent, such as the poster who posted this update, is exactly what led to this teams demise this year. How fitting.

If we had beaten the Bills, or the Browns, maybe, but sorry, no impressed.

thats not entirely accurate

of course not DUH nothing is right blah blahh

it's acurate if you're talking "against the cap"

Agreed ravensdfan... it's like volunteering to go pound your head against a brick wall until you get a major concussion, and then you go and sue the people who own that brick building. It's insane.

Best was drafted in 2010, same year NFL started to really crackdown on concussions.

He doesn't have a snowballs chance.

If he played 20 years ago, when the NFL was covering up the effects of head trauma in football he'd have a case.

The NFL has done everything they can do to cut down on concussions besides getting better helmets. All the time players talk about how the found better helmets. But at the same time Best had a concussion problem in college so he should have either looked into using these better helmets or left the NFL before he really got hurt like Ryan Swope did.

Good thing I used NFL Ticket Exchange because I saw you could only buy two at a time

Had to go through Ticket Exchange myself, Row 541, Row 15. Now I'm looking at Browns tickets which Ticketmaster has plenty of to complete my week in Baltimore.

I got section 526, row 28. So, pretty high up, but we'll be like right on the 45.

Visited the Seahawks forums and you're right, it's bad.

The fans in Tampa were actually very nice yesterday. They have accepted that they lose... especially to good teams. They were all over the compliments about Flacco and our team....

I went to the Falcon's forum to see what they had to say about this week's match up. It's really depressing over there : (

It is going to be an interesting season.

Fact: Ravens lost to the Raiders.

Opinion: Ravens will be drafting inside top 10.

It's okay to have opinions but let's not confuse them as facts.

Not giving up on the season just yet - but these division games coming up are must wins in my book. We'll see where we stand after that slate of games.

Of course he is not going to regain all of his velocity after that injury. But without hgh he would never have played again. I agree the story should never have surfaced because the dude needed hgh for healing purposes so he could play again. It is not cheating!! When a player has surgery to repair an injury and the surgery wasn't available 40 yrs ago, is it called cheating because the players 40 yrs ago did not have the surgery?? HGH has very little effect on muscle growth unless...

Won't say if Peyton took them or not but NFL.com sure made him look guilty trying to deflect controversy onto a handful of other athletes instead of just sticking with the 'he didn't do it' narrative. If he did do it, I'll be sure to bring that up whenever there's a convo about Peyton, good or bad. Just like the media does to other athletes.

I think its be that there coming after Peyton...you mean to tell me after all this time when there starting to come after him with all these negative reports that they just found this out now... This is the most ridiculous thing they did since this woman threw derrick rose for rape when he had a torn acl

Scotti didn't fire Pees, it was Harbs. He did discuss it with Harbaugh but it wasn't his call.

I don't care who fired Cam and I don't care who fires Pees, as long as it happens. If this man is still here next season I will seriously have to think the FO is completely out of touch.

It depends on what happens this season Ravensdfan. That might actually mean missing the playoffs but I don't want to miss the playoffs just to lose one guy

The real problem is our passing defense

No Torrey, Daniels, given what Trestman has at WR we're fine there. Offense is far from the problem

Trestman works with high school WRs and still score avg 20pts per game. Kubiak has Torrey and Daniel to work with.

bruh

turf toe?

Hope you reconsider. You will be missed.

I care more for actual games then preseason. Last year Timmy filled in for a couple games and our defense played at the same level then when Ngata was on the field. Small sample of course, but that says more then 2 preseason games.

I can't believe he would say that, but it is what it is. Good luck trying to fill in for Suh

Really Ngata? I always wish for the best when players leave the Ravens, but not in this case.

If it brings in another 16 billion a year in funds I see it happening poescrows. Also they are doing it as a market. It didnt do so well 20 years ago. Remember Kurt Warner? He played for amsterdam. So to say it isnt that popular is changing. With our military abroad they will also have a chance to see "their team" in their local area as well IF they move. Now they might start a UK league. And the American Super bowl, and UK Super bowl winners might duke it out. I dont see chartering t...

Heard a rumor that Stan Kroenke, the Rams owner will announce he's moving the team to L.A. after the Super Bowl.

So you're saying a London game will bring in 1 billion dollars a week, Bmore? In Government dollars perhaps, LOL.

The Lions will win the SuperBowl

Ozzie will trade Daniels, Gilmore and a future pick for Ed Dickson

Aldon Smith will get suspended, and more players will be suspended for PEDs.

I dunno. We talken about our "depth at WR" before this season. Didn't turn out too well. We need to draft someone great.

FA/trade seems to be the better route than draft. I doubt we just go in with these guys though.

I think the Ravens might just release Marlon Brown. He did nothing this year, and lost playing time to guys that weren't even on the team at the beginning of the year.

FYI usually two days before the game they will release tickets. That's how I've been buying mine.

Even if they don't announce, they show up.

Steelers returned 200 tickets yesterday. Usually check the Thursday before a home game or in this case Tuesday

Yeah but it screws the out of towners like me who can't just ask off work days before the game. NFL really screws up the whole putting in for time off to be able to go and even getting that time off from work.

Yeah, and we actually dominated them in all phases of the game. The stars just don't want to align this year.

Gotta get by Connor Shaw first.

Connor Shaw. Given how we like to make unknowns look like Peyton, the name strikes fear into my heart.

Just so you know too, Brady actually winds up with a RAISE the way the restructure was done so don't be acting like he's some Saint.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000451534/article/tom-brady-restructures-deal-earns-1m-annual-raise

^^ his apparent raise is still under the cap and price tag of what he is actually worth though by a decent amount.

lol as the next article states - skip the sainthood - it helped both sides but Brady gave up nothing.

http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/columnists/ron_borges/2014/12/borges_skip_sainthood_for_tom_brady

I was all in on going on a playoff run up until joe went down to be honest. I will still root for them regardless but when we lose knowing that were headed for a top 5 pick softens the blow a bit.

^January J, my thoughts exactly. I wanted to see us make a run, but i lost hope the moment we lost Flacco. I will never root for us to lose, but I won't be as sad....SO LONG as these players continue to fight. Some of these dudes are auditioning for next season.

I won't be mad if we wind up with a top 10 or 5 pick as long as we know what were doing with it... But knowing this team I would not be surprised if we lose tommorow then win in Miami next weekend and we have to still hope we can make the playoffs. That being said what would we use it with? Would we trade down? Would we take an OT RUSH DB or WR. I love Laremy tunsil but I'm binder the belief that he will be the top pick even if the browns get the top pick this year we all know they ha...

But they're making millions off of that lol

Well, yeah but its still pretty bad. No doubt it is very comical.

I think that was the point