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    1 minute ago, Tru11 said:

    and that is his fault?

    Drafting Tyron Smith over better talent that was obviously available. He didn't even play LT in his first season. What value does he have when better talent was available to pick not to mention

     

    1 minute ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

    Just admit that you don't understand the value of a great offensive line and admit that you will only be happy With adding "sexy" players like edge rushers and cbs. It is completely obvious that your problem with tunsil isn't actually a problem with  tunsil, but a problem with your understanding of football in general.

    Obviously not, since every team recently that's been in the playoffs or has even won the Super Bowl has had barely an average line with no star LTs to speak of. Stop getting all your information from ESPN because you have no idea what you're talking about. Those "sexy" players are game changers. 

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    1 minute ago, Tru11 said:

    Its downright hilarious that you are blaming tyord for the cowboys not making the play offs.

    coupled that with the fact that you cant see how he helps the cowboys tells me you know very little when it comes to football....

     

    So tell me in that draft do you take Tyron Smith or JJ Watt or even Robert Quinn? All I'm saying is that there isn't much of a difference between great and average LTs. I know a lot about football you're just misled by what you see every draft season on ESPN and NFL Network. 

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    2 minutes ago, Maryland said:

    By being reliable in pass-pro and being the corner stone of an OL that allowed DeMarco Murray to lead the league in rushing yards

    And only made playoff once in the time he's been on the team...  

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    6 minutes ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

    There is a difference between drafting a slam dunk franchise qb on a qb-less team and drafting a franchise LT. 

     

    Not sure how this is even relevant. Tyron smith may be the current best LT in the league regardless of what the rest of the injury riddled and media-circus cowboys team does. They took him 11th overall and got a fixture at LT and their defense has been horrible, I honestly don't have the slightest clue how this point relates to your original point that says tunsil wouldn't be a good pick.

    How has Tyron helped the Cowboys? They're consistently not making the playoffs. Like I said there is little difference between the best LT and an average LT.

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    2 hours ago, RavensDieHard21 said:

    Cowboys took Tyron Smith at 11 in a stacked class and walked away with an Elite LT that cements the line perfectly. I see the odds and agree that not all of them pan out, but Tunsil is far more impressive than all of those Tackles when healthy lol

    And they're picking ahead of us lol made playoffs once in the time they drafted Tyron

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    3 hours ago, BmoreBird22 said:

    There's almost no player that I would take and pass on receiving six picks, including two first rounders

    So you would pass on Andrew Luck when he was coming out of college for all those picks? In hindsight I think people would but not at that time. Colts were in no way willing to give him up as the Redskins tried to move up.

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    5 minutes ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

    I can somewhat understand the rationale behind jack and ramsey, but Buckner a better pick than tunsil? Get real.

     

    51 minutes ago, balfan23 said:

    I don't think TN making this trade is any kind of indictment on Tunsil. The Rams waved a franchise changing number of draft picks in their face and it was an offer they couldn't refuse. They balanced Tunsil vs. the #15 + a boatload of extra picks and decided that #15 + a boatload of extra picks wins. That doesn't mean that if Tunsil is there at #6 that he wouldn't be BPA and the Ravens would be thrilled to take him. 

    I see it like this. If Tunsil is the best tackle to come out in years why would the Titans risk not drafting him #1? People make it seem like he's the second coming of Orlando Pace.  So I ask you if Tunsil is a sure fire hall of famer as everyone is making him out to be. Why would you trade back? In this sense it seems like a huge gamble considering all those pick they recieved aren't guaranteed to pan out. The difference from an average tackle to a great tackle isn't much. I think the Titans know that. So tell me how he's going to impact us? How much have recent tackles impacted their NFL teams? Titans took Lewan two years ago, Falcons took Jake Mathews, Chiefs took Fisher, Jaguars took Jockel, Eagles took Johnson, Chargers took Fluker, Rams took Robinson, Giants took Flowers. How many of these teams have even been contenders?

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    50 minutes ago, Purple Punishment said:

    And Joe doesn't need protection on the blind side why? Tunsil is the absolute top LT IN THE DRAFT! You take him!!!

    It makes no sense IMO, defensive players always have a bigger impact. I don't see Tunsil stepping in right away and making an impact. He's going to have some growing pains like all LTs do, the Titans seem like they felt the same way so they decided to trade down. Jack, Ramsey, or Buckner would all be better picks

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    22 minutes ago, RaineV1 said:

    Who falls will still depend a lot on the Browns. I'm still not sure if they go QB, but if they do it'll be great for the Ravens. If they go QB, I think the first set of picks will be something like: QB, QB, Ramsey, Bosa, and Jack/Tunsil. It is in the realm of possibility now for Tunsil to reach the Ravens.

    Even if they don't I think the Cowboys would take Wentz. Romos been hurt 4 years in a row now. He's 35 about to be 36 and I don't see the Cowboys picking this high again. 

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    3 hours ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

    Nope. Buckner plays too high to consistently generate push against NFL guards I think. Bosa is stronger, leans better, is lighter on his feet, and is all around a better pass rusher.

    I guess Joshua Garnett isn't an NFL guard then. Maybe Conklin isn't  a tackle either since Buckner beat him couple of times inside. The only things that were a concern for Buckner in college was lack of quickness and his his lack of ability to take on double teams, which I won't be concerned with in our system. 

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    1 hour ago, Kinda_Dante said:

    I've watched his tape, and he gets pushed out of plays constantly. He is very strong and athletic but lacks technique and I just feel like he won't be able to make in impact on the professional level, at least not right away. You've heard the FO talk about wanting an instant coffee pick o plug and play and I don't believe he's it. A few years down the road could he be a great player, I don't know, but we need someone who's ready now. I actually did a draft video on Buckner check it out https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svHMLbvAg6Q

    Seems like people are overthinking as the draft gets closer. Show me 1 play of Buckner getting pushed around and I'll give you a dozen plays where he completely dominated the offensive lineman. I see JJ Watt get pushed around on plays but that doesn't mean he's not the best defensive player in the NFL. Buckner has some very violent hands by no means is he perfect, but he's the best option for us at 6 if he falls. 

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    3 hours ago, RavensDieHard21 said:

    Desmond King! I was praying he would come out this year! He was very good this past year and I think with another year under his belt, he could be a stud. Physical and plays really well in man coverage with instincts to make a play on the ball.

    Give me Jourdan Lewis over any CB in this draft and next years 

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    4 hours ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

    I like buckner, but I have them ranked essentially the exact same. Both are high floor and high ceiling guys. With buckner I really don't like that he doesn't have a consistent lean, I think he's good enough in all aspects to be effective despite that, but long and tall DLs without natural lean concern me, they have a tendency to get stood up or put on skates against interior linemen. I think vh3s concerns over his height and reach are far overblown but buckners lack of consistent lean is real, so I find vh3 the safer prospect overall and looking at our team I think He provides the biggest impact and upgrade. It was a close call though because i like buckner for this team a lot and I think the ravens do too, I just don't know if they're gonna invest in another DT/DE with this high pick unless he's clear cut BPA

    I think he is BPA. He's going to be more productive in the NFL than he was in college just because he won't be asked to play 100+ snaps a game. I just can't shake what Calvin Ridley and Amari Cooper did to VH3. I've seen Buckner manhandle Goshua Garnett and hold his own against Conklin all while playing in a scheme that doesn't show his strengths. Seeing how productive Armstead was last season I think Buckner is twice the player he is. I think Buckners an all pro starting day 1 with our scheme. I think he's our guy at 6 if another team doesn't take him

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    5 hours ago, 52520Andrew said:

    Well the Ravens are comfortable with him as a starter because they just gave him a big contract so we shouldn't worry about adding another CB to throw your logic back in your face.

    As for my actual thoughts, I'll copy and paste it from the very comment you quoted.  "I agree though that another CB wouldn't be a bad thing to have given that Wright had his fair share of struggles in San Diego but I also value a deep secondary quite a bit as you are only as strong as your weakest link back there. " To break that down, I would be fine with another CB for 2 reasons. Reason 1 is because I am not sold on Wright either(wow, we agree) and Reason 2 is because I am not sold on the CB depth in general as Arrington has had his struggles and we sadly lost Tray Walker(R.I.P.)

    Where did I say we should avoid BPA? I think BPA is very important, especially with our highest pick since 2000. I have said numerous times on these boards that I don't really care what position we hit as long as it is an impact player. Here might be the part you got tripped up by:  "I think there are a few people who would not pass on a guy like Hargreaves in the first ". I did not say that I was among those who agreed with that logic, I just pointed out that there are people who think that in response to the comment I quoted about the need at CB potentially being overlooked on these boards. 

    Personally I wouldn't take Hargreaves unless Tunsil, Bosa, Ramsey, Jack, and Buckner are all gone. Then he would be my BPA. 

    If we don't address ILB in the draft then I think we will as well and probably should given that we don't have much depth at the position even if Orr does well this year.

    Dominique Franks was a starting CB at one point for all that is worth.

    I mean all that really says about Orr right now is that he is better than Arthur Brown(not exactly the biggest milestone out there).

    A 3 year 13 million dollar contract with 4 million guaranteed isn't a big contract. If you want to play it that way Orr is still on the team, and Daryl isn't so they must be comfortable with what he provides to the team. You basically implied that we shouldn't take BPA because we've stuggled at CB and WR and now we're going to stuggle at ILB. All I'm trying to say is we're not going to address ILB in the draft unless that player is BPA. How many ILBs are you even comfortable drafting and stepping in right away? 

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    2 hours ago, 52520Andrew said:

    The thing I will give Wright is that he played well for a good chunk of the season as opposed to just playing limited snaps at the very end of the season and the FO was comfortable enough to give him a fairly big contract extension so I'd imagine they are fairly comfortable with what he could do. At least we have proof that Wright can play, Orr is pretty much a crap shoot at this point. I agree though that another CB wouldn't be a bad thing to have given that Wright had his fair share of struggles in San Diego but I also value a deep secondary quite a bit as you are only as strong as your weakest link back there.

    I think there are a fairly large group of people though who still have questions about the CB position as well. I think there are a few people who would not pass on a guy like Hargreaves in the first(just look at the poll above although I know the top 5 are all gone but still) and most mock drafts I have seen on here involve us taking a CB early.

    Wright was a horific player in SD, but he's progressed, I'm still not comfortable with him as a starter as Wright had a 116 passer rating when targeting him. Your logic of adding another player makes no sense. We skip BPA for need, is that what you're suggesting? Of course Ozzie and company would sit on there hands if that player isn't BPA they could care less about position of need. Reaching in the draft is not what they'll be doing. I can see them adding a veteran that gets cut. As of now Orr is the starting ILB. 

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