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Mike Mayock claiming the the Titans want to move back up and the Ravens are willing to trade down because it seems like they have their eyes set on Noah Spence

4 hours ago, Underdogsontop! said:

I feel the same about Buckner and Elliot. Tunsil I don't feel the same. 

We haven't met with Elliot or Buckner. And we haven't had a private meeting with Tunsil just talks at the combine. Seems weird to not meet with Tunsil, but have a private meeting with all the other top prospects like Ramsey, Bosa, Hargreaves, and Stanley. Doesn't seem like we're that interested with his injury history, off field issues (domestic violence and extra benefits) and with Robert Nkemdiche claiming that Tunsil was with him when he jumped out that window high on synthetic marijuana. I think every team will throw out the domestic violence history because he was supposedly defending his mother, even the extra benefits part will probably be thrown out the window, but injury concerns and what Nkemdiche has claimed may scare off teams including us. It's funny because it seems like he's just like Eugene Monroe especially after Monroe's recent stance on marijuana haha

We're not drafting Buckner, Elliot, or Tunsil

39 minutes ago, ALPHA said:

Tunsil still makes me nervous, you have to project how much of his game is going to translate and how much time it's going to take to get acclimatised to the pro game, is he Tyron Smith or Jason Smith? remember people were saying Jason Smith was going to be the next Walter Jones.

I suppose you could say that about anybody but we can't afford to get this wrong.

Makes you wonder why they haven't had a private workout with Tunsil if we can't get this pick wrong. 

6 hours ago, 443hurricane said:

That's why I'm glad it is your opinion.

Tunsil is going to be on the Left Side for 10 years. Unlike the injury bug formerly known as eugene monroe.

Tell me the last time Tunsils played a full season in college

4 hours ago, Kinda_Dante said:

for me that would be the second worst pick we could make. I feel like he's a project player.

Tunsil is more of the project player. He's not going to step in day 1 and be good. He's going to have his struggles first couple of seasons

12 hours ago, BmoreBird22 said:

I would definitively not take Buckner and I'm still leaning toward Ramsey; however, I will admit that the lack of pass rushing depth has me worriee.

Let's just agree to disagree on Buckner

59 minutes ago, BmoreBird22 said:

I'm going to go Ramsey because he can do it all in the secondary and that carries more weight to me.

Miller, Mack, and all the other "elite" edge rushers rushed from the right side more than 60% of the time, so Tunsil doesn't carry as much value. Add in the increasing emphasis on interior pressure and it doesn't bode as well for him.

Glad someone understands what I've been trying to explain for a long time now lol. I'd still take someone like Buckner and Bosa over Ramsey though. 

8 minutes ago, ludy51 said:

With the 39th pick, the Chicago Bears select, Darian Thompson, FS, Boise State

I think the Bucs have the 39th pick lol

With the 38th pick, the Jacksonville Jaguars select, Karl Joseph, West Virginia

2 hours ago, Jacquouille said:

Why would they? They fueled their secondary in the last drafts...

Too talented to pass up, just lost Casey Hayward. Plus Ted Thompson loves himself some CBs

With the 27th pick, the Green Bay Packers select William Jackson III, Houston

8 minutes ago, rmw10 said:

Matt Elam was a combine meeting only, at least according to what reports are out there.

Teryl Austin was the gators secondary coach while Elam was there I'm guessing he's the one that pounded the table for Elam. All I'm saying is that we have a top pick and to not workout someone privately while we've worked out everyone else except Elliot and Buckner is odd. I'm not sure if the front office likes the guys they didn't meet with or they already know about their character so film should speak for itself. Not meeting with Tunsil privately is a concern, still need to do all their homework before drafting someone that high

7 hours ago, BmoreBird22 said:

It's not his logic; it's something the Ravens have never done. And we didn't say private meeting, just a meeting. The Ravens met with Tunsil at the combine. 

We haven't drafted anyone without a private meeting either. 

15 hours ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

I just can't see a smart drafting team taking a first rounder without meeting with the player first.. It makes no sense at all. First round picks are major currency, and you just aren't doing your due diligence by throwing a smoke screen. It's a top 10 pick, every team is interviewing everyone, how much of a smoke screen is it REALLY to be the just about the only team who doesn't interview buckner if you plan on taking him? Seems totally pointless. I think they don't like buckner at 6, to put it simply.

They haven't met with Tunsil privately either which is odd. I guess they aren't that interested in him either. They've only met with Stanley, Bosa, and Ramsey who are projected to be top 10 picks so it seems like 1 of those three will be our picks according to your logic. Also a lot of reports are surfacing that teams are swaying more towards Stanley than Tunsil. Could be a smokescreen but who knows. 

On April 14, 2016 at 3:53 PM, beanfigger said:

It matters because if they take the QB Cleveland wants, then Cleveland might take someone we want.

Does it matter now? Lol

I'd love for anyone to show me tape on Kendall Fuller that shows that he's worth a 2nd round pick

6 hours ago, 52520Andrew said:

The best O-line Flacco had, he threw 11 TDs and no picks en route to a Super Bowl MVP. The worst O-line we had(2013) we missed the playoffs. Not a coincidence. We got the O-line fixed the next year under Kubes, divisional round again. Also just going to throw this out there but every time we have missed the playoffs, it came in a year where Flacco got injured. Also Flacco is coming off a torn ACL.

We shouldn't reach for lesser talent to fill the need but Tunsil would not be a reach at 6. In fact I doubt he will be there so much that I am turning my font pink for a year if he is in fact available as I have said quite a few times on here(although I may switch my avi to something like LOVE PINK instead as I can't change the color on my font on mobile).

One other thing. Having a bad game against someone who is now getting paid more than JJ Watt is not the worst thing in the world. 

lol this is getting ridiculous. Monroe was the LT for the majority of the 2013 season and he was one of the best LTs in the league that year.  Joe was injured against the Lions after I think it was Nick Fairly that dove for his legs after the ball was already out of his hands. We still missed the playoffs with great LT play lol, but give me more reasons why we should draft Tunsil over a defensive player. Romos been hurt 4 years in a row with the best LT in football. So they're are a lot more factors than a LT being the sole reason for injury

6 hours ago, Maryland said:

The game has changed...

So much so that an elite LT clearly would not have made a difference for the Panthers in the SB going against Von Miller and D.Ware.

Not sure how having an elite defense supports your argument that LT is an overrated position. The Panthers had an elite defense last year and struggled because of their OL

thats funny because if you watched any kind of football you'd know Von Miller lines up against RTs

22 minutes ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

That had a lot to do with kubiaks offense, a system that not everyone can pull off. Trestmans offense can be a top 5 unit with a strong armed qb, a good line, a well rounded back, and a good TE, but if the line falls short then the system will fall apart.

That's nonsense. Bears o line in 2013 wasn't good. We just lacked receivers noticablely speed guys. Teams just played in the box against us and sat on routes because they knew we weren't going to go deep. We only averaged 3 points less per game when Flacco was healthy compared to 2014. 

9 minutes ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

Oh good for you, you picked out one game where smith struggled against a guy who had an outstanding year. I guess Wagner is trash because he got worked by watt too. 

 

If tunsil is available at 6 that means all the "game changers" you speak of have been taken already

Go back to 2014 and JPP makes Tyron looking horrible. Wagner was horrible last season he was great in 2014 though

13 hours ago, Tru11 said:

Yeah i cant take someone serious who barely see a difference between Hurst and Smith.

 

 

I never said that lol you're just putting words in my mouth. There isn't however much of a difference between Monroe and Smith

14 hours ago, Tru11 said:

There is a huge difference between having Smith at LT instead of hurst.

You cant go wrong with picking any but using the gift of hindsight i would have taken Smith over Quinn but Watt over both.

Then again i would take Watt over pretty much anyone , besides guys like lawrence taylor, Ed reed, jerry rice, joe montana , JO, barry sanders and well you catch my driift....

 

 

Go watch Dolphins vs the Cowboys this past season and all you will see is Tyron Smith getting run over by Oliver Vernon. Hurst isn't an average tackle by the way. All I'm saying is that we'll be wasting the #6 pick on Tunsil when there are game changers that will be available. 

14 hours ago, Maryland said:

One of them is in the Ravens' ring of honor

This isn't 2000 anymore the game has changed also we had the best defense of all time

2 minutes ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

Lol I get my info from ESPN huh.. Ok, let's go over it.. The Broncos won because their defense is a once in a generation level of dominant. The patriots OL came together when they got healthy and played well within their system which is a quick release system that takes pressure off of the pass pro. The Seahawks had a stellar OL when they won it all. The difference maker in the ravens winning the super bowl was the line, we had a patchwork line for years and it finally came together for us our SB year. The giants had a good interior and will Beatty played very well for a stretch during that time. The packers had a very solid OL. The list goes on and on. You can't win big games against defensive teams of your qb is running for his life or getting the ball smacked out of his hand from behind

 As someone posting on a ravens forum you should understand this after seeing all the games we've lost due to untimely sacks.

Who played LT on those winning teams? Just an average bunch not a single elite. The Seahawks line was terrible outside of Max Unger. Broncos were on there 3rd string LT. Bryant Mckinnie was picked up in FA for cheap. Will Beatty a second round pick and so was Chad Clifton for the packers. Nate Solder was a first round pick but he's barely been average you're just proving my point. Where are those high drafted LTs that have won Super Bowl?