Dewy101

I'm guessing one of those two are probably going to be our picks if they're there of course.

Well Ozzie is going to draft BPA. I mean we've ignored CB for 2 drafts now. We've ignored a true #1 receiver for a while too unless you consider Perriman the #1, but we have yet to see him take the field. I'm don't understand why you keep mentioning Orr as an UDFA I could care less about draft position as long as he can play

We don't have many options as of right now at ILB. Jack will more than likely be gone before our pick, Ragland and Lee are reaches at our pick. Someone on our roster is going to have to step up, the coaching staff liked Orr over Brown considering the fact that Brown was never active. I'm not sure if anyone we draft is going to come in and take the job right away. They cut Smith for a reason, I trust the front office has a plan in place either our other ILB is on the roster or we're hoping some team cuts an ILB.

That brute force of Oakmans might be nothing in the NFL considering he never does leg day haha

There's a reason why our coaching staff was more comfortable with Orr over Daryl Smith when it came to passing situations. He has potential. We've had past success with UDFA. Guys like Ellerbe, Bynes, even Bart Scott. All who were more than serviceable. I trust the coaching staff they wouldn't be taking Smith off the field for Orr if he couldnt get the job done.

Disagree that his play was better than Lawsons. Injury really slowed down Lawson in the playoffs, but Dodd didn't show anything until the playoffs came along.

their system asks for consistency it's year in and year out which is why it's hard to grade out positively every year. They were a bit hesitant on Anthony Collins playing so well his contract season, but his past play was nowhere near as good. Some of there staff members were hesitant of Oliver Vernon because he never graded out this well outside of his contract season.

He was good in coverage and run support. I know that's why I said limited number of snaps. His sample size is small but he played well. Every player seems to have up and down season Patrick Peterson in 2014 was horific but he bounced back in 2015 in their grading system. I'm not saying Orr is an all pro linebacker just serviceable.

On special teams yes but he's never graded green for a season just average which is white lol

I thinks he's a late 3rd early 4th guy

Just give him the ball. He just has a knack to make people miss. Really hoping he doesn't fall into the hands of the Steelers. Things won't be looking to good for the rest of the NFL if that happened.

PFF graded Daryl Smith as the worst player on our defense last season. Orr actually graded out positively in a limited number of snaps. Looking at our past success of undrafted linebackers I wouldn't be too worried if we don't land Jack.

Lol he was just as bad against double moves in 2014. Was that because of his wrist? Stats using misleading stats they mean nothing when projecting college players to the NFL. He's not a ball hawk he just doesn't turn his head around to attack the ball. Show me where he's actually done that? He just give up to much cushion to receivers in man and off coverage. He has a hard time sticking to anyone.

So you're projecting his play to the NFL? Show me some evidence of his game that is good I've provided you examples where he's been bad. Show me where to look where Fuller has actually been good? Don't throw stats at me they can easily be misinterpreted.

Yes it means nothing. Do you even know how to watch tape? Most of those throws that he's defended passes on are bad throws by QBs. You're not going to see a lot of those in the NFL

I've never seen Fuller turn around and look to intercept the ball instead he just runs into receivers and gets called for PI haha

I like how my posts get voted down when I provided proof of Fullers game haha

Did you even watch that Purdue game he got beat on a double move in the 1st q 7:04 mark. Instead of turning around to look for the ball he runs into the receiver and gets called for PI. Ohio State 2015 he gets beat by Michael Thomas by a double move. Where are his balls skills there? Ok fine he was playing hurt if thats your excuse. Ohio State 2014 1st quarter 4:37 mark. He get beat in press coverage bad throw by QB but Fuller still gets flagged. 2nd Q 8:08 mark Michael Thomas breaks his ankles on a out route. He five yards behind Thomas Where are his balls skills? 3rd Q 7:27 he's holding Thomas 10 ten yards past the line of scrimmage but it doesn't get called. He's going to playing better receivers that Thomas in the NFL I can keep going if you like. He's not an outside corner right now at best a slot corner but he's going to have some struggles there until he gets proper coaching. He isn't a high second round pick

He's a reach in the second where there will be better prospects available. He struggled off man against Ohio state in 2014 and 2015. He just gives up too much ground to receivers. I'd love to see where he's good in off man coverage because I can show you a dozen plays where he just doesn't have the play recognition to play off man. Where are his ball skills? He never looks for the ball when getting beat deep or on double moves. He just decides to run into the receiver and gets called for PIs

He's an overrated prospect. Where's his play recognition, hes athletic and that's all about him you can say about him. He jumps too many routes and fails miserably. He gets bullied in press coverage at best he's a nickel corner right now. Watch his tape he gives receivers so much room to manuever. He just can't stick to his man. Like I said people are just high on him because of his name.

Beavers is up there with LeRaven Clark as the most overrated prospects.

I feel like Fuller only gets mentioned because of his name not because of talents, which are questionable at best.

That's why we have Mosely. Jack and Mosley compliment each other ridiculously well. They're a match made in heaven haha

Exactly why they are so much more valuable now. The best pass rushers are on their side now.

Monroe if healthy of course.