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I wouldn't be against that but I think he is dealing with a hamstring injury.

At least we now know for sure it is a PCL injury instead of a bone bruise injury. All that time leaving Ravens fans hanging and wondering, sometimes banging heads against each other on the board about Perriman's injury. I wish him the best of luck in his recovery and looking forward to seeing him play when he heals. Hang in there Perriman, we will be here for you when you get back. On a side note: I still think it is not a mistake to draft Perriman. He is young and has a lot of years ahead of him when he heals. A real bummer, yes, but will not give up on him. Someday we will cheer loudly during games when he comes back, we march on till then.

5 hours before game time. 4 1/2 hours before ordering pizza, wings and snacks online for delivery. Can't wait for game time. Been sending text messages back and forth with a friend who is a Steelers fan furiously. Hope we win so I can say she now has a losing streak. Fun fun fun.

Boom!!! Nice one!!! lol

2:25 am? Where are you located? That's what I call a dedicated fan. lol 2 mins later: Never mind, just saw your profile location. Good to see a Ravens fan in Czech. You go girl!

The rookies have been through 3 very tough and brutal games, lessons and experiences they learn in first 3 loses that the NFL is at a high level every play will come in handy against Steelers tonight. The starting rookies have already shown they are more than willing to fight back in brutal games and the vets will help prepare to elevate their mind set before Steelers game. They already know how tough it is to play in the NFL and I think they are prepared and even looking forward to a brutal contest with the Steelers to wipe out a losing streak they want to end.

Ok, Now I understand what you're saying from a betting perspective of Vegas trying to making money. Thanks for your input.

Vegas thinks we are equal teams before Big Ben was hurt? At Pittsburgh? You're kidding, right? Late For Work from Ravens web site said Vegas had the Steelers at -4 points, not 3.5 points before Big Ben was hurt. Sure a Ben less Steelers is a swing of a touchdown in changing the odds to "even" things out.

I don't take the Steelers lightly, even without Big Ben. There are 22 starters and they will have 20 starters playing (Not including Pouncey as he is on IR). They are at home, another advantage. Do I think the Ravens have a chance at winning? Yes, without a doubt but as long as Ravens play the game at a high level to have a chance which I think Ravens will be ready to do so. A -2.5 favorite is nothing, pretty much means the game can go either way. I will watch the game, cheering and supporting the Ravens, heart pounding as usual against Steelers. This could be the start of something special. Go grab that first win, go all out with your heart, push your chips all in, claw and fight your way to victory. Go get'em boys!!! I believe you can do it. We'll be rooting for you every step of the way. Go Ravens!

You know what I meant. Fans "let it go" far more than bashing players who are hurt. Monroe has missed other games from knee/ankle injuries and the extension he got has fans wanting more from him is all, thus, one of my points "how often a players is hurt"

That's funny. I am willing to make a deal with Rumplestiltskin (Once Upon A Time) to have Perriman at 100%.

I am all for Camp to get more catches. With Camp, SSS, our TEs, Juice and Forsett from back field, that is a decent combination. If blocking is an issue, make plays design for quick routes. Many teams are successful on short passes. We don't need major changes, just tweak it a little bit better and block a little better is all. Many of us are forgetting the Ravens are ranked 8th on passing yards, that is pretty good by Ravens standard. We actually improved our rankings in passing (We were 13th last year and that was with T.Smith). A tweak here and there and we'll be fine.

I am waiting for an updated official report from the Ravens. Only then will we know. Yes, I know it was exactly 8 weeks that he finally was on the field running but not knowing anything after the pre-game warm up and Perriman not even a limited participant in practice is what is concerning, could it have an inner bone bruise instead of an outer bone bruise? I also know that certain bone bruise can take from 6 months to up to a year to heal, most times much less than that. I may be ignorant on this issue but lacking knowledge and understanding based from what little we get from Ravens official report does not help me understand it better.

I understand your point. A competitive advantage to me is teams making the injury look worse than it really is to throw teams off at game time (Team reports a player is less than 100% but is actually at 100%) or a team making the injury report less than it really is so a player is used as a decoy (Teams report players is close to 100% but actually at 70-90%). Big time gamblers don't rely on the media like amateur gamblers do because the professional gambler knows injury reports are not 100% accurate. Professional gamblers and the casinos have ways of getting inside information through bribery so it does not matter what is reported by teams or not. A casino may have better inside information than gamblers because they have more money to pay bribes for inside information. That is how casinos beats gamblers and once in awhile vice versa. Since both sides gets the same public report so it does not matter what is reported publicly, it is who has the best inside information that will win most bets. I don't see how whether Perriman has an inside bone bruise or outside bone bruise is going to make any difference because he is not playing. Intelligent people/teams/gamblers/casinos will realize it is likely not just an outside bone bruise alone because of how long this is taking, keeping it on a low profile is a moot point because people will figure it out. All that matters is when Perriman finally puts on Ravens uniform, is he 100% or not? Everything that happens before that will not mattered because teams will take aim at Perriman even if he has never been injured and gamblers/casinos will rely on current information on which players are at 100% or not come game day no matter the previous injuries as players heals from injuries and become 100%.

I agree. I been a Baltimore sports fan for 50 years (Since I was 5, that's as far back as I can remember lol) and I am with you, I never seen a sports injury so mysterious too. But if the organization has no diagnosis from medical staff (how is that possible?) .... I agree, one of strangest thing I ever seen in NFL.

I respectfully disagree, when Suggs was injured before/now and understood what it was. Fans let it go till he came back. Same thing with Ray Lewis and several other injuries. I don't see fans flipping out over Gilmore being injured because they know exactly what type of injury he has. Even Urban, Rashaan, Elam, Canty And Monroe's injuries are "let go" till they are healed because they know exactly what type of injury it is, which makes it easier to know the ballpark figure of when those players will return. With Perriman, it has gone beyond the norm of a bone bruise and raises our curiosity. There are a few things that arouses fans curiosities on injuries, when a player will be back, how often a player is hurt and on lack of understandable knowledge of what is going on and wanting more info. It is rare that fans do not fully understand a player's injury and that is why there is more voice for information to understand it better.

I am sure Maxx will be more bulked up by next year. Gilmore is bigger and stronger than last year. The NFL has better conditioning programs than college level.

TEs is the least of my worries. I think Boyle and Williams will do a fine job. They both are not afraid to do what it takes in the NFL. The exciting part is that they are only rookies and will only get better as time goes on. We are set with our 3 TEs in the future.

Minionhunter, on 30 Sept 2015 - 1:15 PM, said:Its a PCL. Remember Hensley's tweet. PCL ~8 weeks, and if he tweaked it Sunday, likely longer. Because it came from Jamison Hensley, a reporter from ESPN, he is not an official member of the team. The team never said anything officially about PCL. The Ravens have not changed their stance since July. Fans gives more weight from officials associated with the team than from a reporter. The Ravens have not acknowledge whether his tweet is true or not.

Where did I agree with you? I am a fan, what is wrong with wanting to know more information? Many Ravens fans are at a lost of fully understanding on what is going on because fans don't have much to rely on as we usually do. More information helps our mindset. Is it still a bone bruise that has not healed completely? Ok then, that's understandable but we were not told that. Is the recent injury a PCL that some say? There is nothing official from the team. It drives fans crazy and for the first time, I ask for details since Perriman was first hurt. Is it an outer bone bruise which can heal within weeks? if it is an inner layer of bone bruise, it takes several months to heal because the inner layer of bone takes longer to heal than the outer layer of bone. If fans were told it is inner bone bruise, then we will have gained knowledge and act accordingly. I don't see what Ravens gain by keeping it on low profile is all. It is human nature to want to know as a fan is all. No one is going to get assassinated over fans having a better understanding, this isn't NSA, it's the NFL.

I agree Ray Lewis can get anyone pumped. Heck, I get pumped while making steak-ums after watching Ray Lewis clips. I think we should leave out Ray Lewis out of respect for today's team, we are undergoing a new transformation and it is a new era, give it time to develope. In fact, I am sure we will have fired up speeches before Thursday's football game from a few or so players, we just won't see it on TV is all. Some players are more comfortable giving out fired up speeches in private instead of on TV. Players get fired up in many ways, sometimes from friends, from family, from their own kids, from their love of Baltimore, some rely on feedbacks from fans, some are already fired up from losing the past 3 games. Trust me, players hate losing the games more than the fans and take it more personal than the fans because after all, they gotta play the game in front of an audience and no player wants to be embarrassed in front of people. Go get'em boys!!!

What harm does details do to Perriman and Ravens? Everybody already knows he has a knee injury. Details are given out all the time on other injuries so fans have a good understanding. We all know it is a bone bruise but simply wanted to understand why it is taking longer than normal is all. I am selfish? I have been patient and support Perriman since the beginning and that has not changed. I am thirsting for knowledge of his injury is all. Go find someone else to try to rattle, it did not work with me, I laughed when I read your comment.

Ozzie to leave on a 3 games losing streak? That's not a high note. Ridiculous to ask the man to leave when he has done so well for a long time, making playoffs 10 of last 15 years is no easy feat in today's NFL, especially in AFC North. In fact, Ozzie did better than the Steelers in last 15 years (Steelers made one less playoffs than Ravens and Ravens won 2 Super Bowls while Steelers won 1). We play in the toughest division the past 15 years. Just because the Ravens are having a poor start does not mean we forget what Ozzie the man has done for us since Ravens been in NFL. We should be on our knees and thanking Ozzie for all he has done as well as ride the storm with him till it is over. He has earned the right to leave on his own terms. Till then, I stand by Ozzie.

Sorry for being a little off topic here but wanted to post this before I forget. Fun facts between Baltimore and Pittsburgh. Did you know that the Steelers drafted Johnny U in 1955? The Steelers released Johnny U before season began that same year, saying he was not smart enough. Guess who was among QBs picked over Johnny U? Ted Marchibroda, the Ravens first head coach. Johnny U played for a semi pro team for $6 a game before coming to Baltimore in 1956 and he nearly could not make it when Baltimore called in 1956 because he had to borrow money from friends to pay for gas for the trip from Pittsburgh to Baltimore. The rest is history, thank you Pittsburgh.

I would like to know what is going on with Perriman. I at first thought Perriman was just testing his knee and pulled up when satisfied how far he ran with no problems which many players do when coming back from a leg/knee injuries. Now I am wondering if putting Perriman out there was a public relations move to quiet down fans that backfired. I am waiting patiently for Perriman to heal 100% and still am patient but details would be nice. Thing is, like King said, this whole thing is a mystery. I am not mad, just want more details so fans can quiet down and be more understanding is all. Harbaugh might as well said "I'm here so I don't get fined" when asked about Perriman. Odds are this has nothing to do with his past because his knee issue was adolescent, well before college and he played throughout his college career without missing games as far as I know. Details please.