Tank 92

Well, not what I expected, but I guess Q wouldn't budge and neither would the FO. Q could still retire.

You don't really believe what you wrote here, do you?

Yeah, like Ray Lewis, huh. You're not getting it. You have to keep some "old veterans" in order to build a young core properly. For me that includes both Q and Ed for 2013.

Don't think so. I have been one of the most vocal critics of Ed when he plays in so much pain that he can't wrap up. We didn't see as much of that this year. At the end of 2011 it was hard to watch. But he still QBs the D backfield and is sorely needed until the young guys get up to speed. Right now, his leadership is irreplaceable. I've said it before, we might be able to absorb the loss of Q, but losing Ray and Ed in the same year will spell disaster.

Ed is not the player he once was, but you are ignoring the intangibles that he brings to the table. His reputation alone brings fear to the opposing team's OC and QB. He is a huge leader in the locker room And he is not only a safety, but a damn good coach as well. Ed Reed is well worth $5 mil. to this Team in 2013.

This makes sense with the exception of Reed. IMO it would cripple the D(locker room) to lose both Ray and Ed in the same year.

Ed "Board Hands" Dickson? smh.

Mase was a possession receiver, Q is a TD machine AND a possession receiver that ended up replacing him. We upgraded by releasing Mase. How do we do that with Q? I don't know. Would it doom us? Probably not, but it would hurt. IMO losing Reed would be much worse on many levels. Talking about Todd in this context is immaterial. Even though he was my favorite Raven it was obvious that he was done. If Q has actually recanted his position on retirement(haven't heard this from him), I agree and would also lose some respect for him.

Bet?

Well, robbing Q was not what I had in mind. I was thinking more of a 3 year deal at say, a total of $12 to $15 mil.. Gives both parties some security, and would be fair. You should give up the "overpay" thing. It's simple supply and demand economics.

Q is going nowhere, Bank on it.

This is a good thing. Maybe he signs a cap friendly extension. We need him next year!