JEEPercreepermd

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  1. On 1/8/2017 at 4:01 PM, JoeyFlex5 said:

    Andy Dalton is not a good qb. He has been on one of the most loaded rosters in the NFL for years now and aside from last year's playoff loss he has been the reason they can't win a playoff game. He gets to the playoffs and stinks it up and brings their stacked team a loss.

    Dude legitimately has like 1 playoff TD pass. Look it up. It's like one or two maybe. Dalton is a joke.  

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  2. On 1/8/2017 at 0:15 AM, frozen joe flacco fan said:

    Let X = Points Scored & let Y = Points Allowed

    Now when X > Y, we won 8 times and when X < Y we lost 8 times.

    Seriously, it was a tale of two offenses and a tale of two defenses. Neither unit was consistently good or consistently bad. To the contrary, both units were inconsistent all year. 

    We scored 343 total points this year and allowed our opponents to score 321 total points. An elementary school student would probably understand that our margin of error to win games was very slim. On the average, the O scored ~ 21.5 ppg and the D allowed 20 ppg. The O scored 21 points or more in 9 games and we won 62.5% of them. The D allowed 21 or more points in 8 games and we lost 87.5% of them. Good teams with great defenses generally win when they allow their opponent fewer than 21 points. There is a high correlation between points allowed and winning. Our record was 7-1 in the games we allowed fewer than 21 points. We were 1-7 in the games when we allowed our opponent to score more than 20 points. Liars may figure but figures don't lie. The logical conclusion is that great defenses consistently hold their opponents to fewer than 21 points. Our D did so in 8 of our 16 games. While high-octane offenses sell tickets and are exciting to watch, the truth is offenses do not have to score a ton of points to win. The correlation between points scored and winning is typically not as high as the former correlation. Three of the highest scoring teams in the NFL this year were Arizona, New Orleans and Atlanta. It will be interesting to see how the Dirty Birds fare in the playoffs although I don't know much about their defense. 

    In summary, we are who our record says we are --- an average team. Depending on one's perspective that can either be good or bad or neither. For instance, the "average" American is overweight. Is that good? IMO, average is mediocrity and mediocrity is bad. So, IDK the answer to the excellent, thought provoking question posted by OLD SCHOOL SMASH BALL but I have a good hunch it starts with rebuilding the D but that's just another "Old School" guy talking.

    So, what you're saying is that when you score more points than you allow, you win? Interesting theory 

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  3. On 1/8/2017 at 4:36 AM, JoeyFlex5 said:

    we havent exactly had the most fair sampling though. 2013: the team was totally dismantled, that team was a mess, we were in the middle of bryant mckinnies downward spiral and trying to transition to eugene monroe, we depended heavily on ray rice who clearly had taken a horrible left turn, torrey smith was our #1, our centers were historically bad, marlon brown was our #2... kinda hard to hold this one against joe, even though he didnt play well that year, its understandable. 

    2014: things came together. kubiak came and was a great fit for joe. owen daniels played at a near pro bowl level and was an incredible security blanket. steve smith was a man possessed this season. our OL was elite and healthy for most of the year and was being coached in the best OL scheme of all time and we had a rb who executed the scheme to perfection. in this season joe played better than he ever had, everything worked, and our season ended with flacco once again playing lights out in the playoffs @pit and @NE, so much that he brought us 2 14 point leads in NE and the secondary blew it. 

    2015: a disaster year. james hurst was starting at LT for most of the year. flacco had delivered 2 game winning TD passes perfectly into crockett gillmores hands and he blew it both times. we had zero pass protection once again. our revolving door of a wr corps consisted of kaelin clay and that guy we signed from STL(cant even remember his name a year later). joes top man went down midseason and a few weeks later he tore his acl because of his horrible OL play. 

    2016: still recovering from said ACL, o-line is just as bad, if not worse, for the majority of the season. run game is historically bad for the franchise. game winning TDs dropped against the raiders and redskins. goes into the bye week hobbled and still recovering, clearly he improves along with the rest of the OL as he suddenly has better protection once stanley comes back and zuttah gets healthy again, he has a very strong second half to the season, does enough to get us into the playoffs minus a hiccup game vs NE where the gameplan was just totally broken and not in our favor, and in the end our defense lets us down and gets us eliminated. and in this same game he had 2 sure TD's dropped, one possible TD that wasnt played right, and a crucial 3rd down conversion missed inside the 5 because pitta inexplicably flailed his leg into the air and failed to get it down in bounds. definitely 2, possibly 3 or 4 TDs that never were, because his team let him down. this game was a blowout if these guys arent letting him down over and over. 

     

    flaccos performance needs some context man. he isnt the best qb in the league, not by a long shot. but he isnt the problem with this team, dropped passes, horrible pass protection, injuries, and just a lack of talent in general are the problem with this team. flacco is let down by his players so much its sickening that the fans dont even realize it.

     

    I'm reading a lot of excuses here. I've been a HUGE fan of Joe from day 1 when they drafted him...I live in DE and saw him play at UofD many times. 

     However, it is  what it is. Flacco had a bad season. There's no two ways around it. Sure, other players could have played better, but to suggest that none of it is directly on him is a bit of a stretch. I'd argue that it's mostly on him. 

     He has to get better. For every instance that you mentioned a receiver dropping a pass, I can tell you at least one instance where he didn't see a guy wide open down the sideline, and threw a check down to Pitta or Juice. 

     Is it all on Joe? Ofcourse not. But it shouldn't be taboo to just call a spade either. 

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  4. I read an article on BR earlier which made me think. Most of us are of the assumption that the Ravens we underachievers this season. That they didn't play to the level that they are capable of given the current makeup of the roster, opponents ect.. 

     

    But what if 8-8 was actually better than they should have done? 

     I mean, they lost to the JETS for petes sake! They almost blew one against the Jags and Eagles..then there was the time when they were down 20-2 to the Browns before winning by less than a touchdown. 

    If they those three... which COULD have happened, it's a 5-11 record. 

    The flip side is that you could argue

    that the losses to NYJ, NYG, Skins, Raiders, and the second steelere game should have been wins. By that measure, it's an 11-5 record. 

    I cant really speak to the week 17 loss vs Cindy because the team just didn't even attempt to win that game, they were done. Had they beaten Pittsburgh and with the division on the line, they may have forth at least an effort. 

    That said, what do you think? Is this a below average team who eeked out a few more wins than it should have? Or is it a slightly above average team that just is a fe peices here and there from contending again? 

     

    My my opinion is that they have regress

    to being just another team at this point. They aren't bad...really the only team that dominated them was the Patriots (regardless of how close the score was) but they aren't good either. The Ravens of 08-12 would have lost one..maybe two of those "should have won games"  

    Are they a few players away talent wise? Partially. The results may have been different had the current players executed as well. 

     

     

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  5. I can see us backing in as a wild card,  winning the first game convincingly, everybody starts talking about January Joe ect...then having a meltdown the following week in a very winnable game. 

     Then we pick in the 20's in the draft, trade out of the first round to pick two very average, non deecript players in the 2nd round..one will earn a big contract in FA in his last season here..the second will show brief flashes of potential, but will ultimately vanish from the lineup after work ethic issues land him in harbaughs infamous dog house. 

     

     

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