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I'm tired of hearing about how we drafted HOFers late in the first round 10-20 years ago.Outside of Jimmy Smith and CJ Mosley we haven't even been able to find players I would actually call good in the first round in the past seven drafts.Perriman still has a chance to be good though.We can't afford to trade back just like they think we can't afford to trade up.Bosa,Tunsil,Ramsey,Buckner and Jack are the top 5 players in this draft.If Cleveland doesn't take a QB and no one trades in front of us for a QB,giving up a third to move up a spot or two and get one of them would be worth it.This roster NEEDS that level of talent.

23 hours ago, Virginia 55 said:

Our o-line is one our weakest units. We need major help in the trenches. Our running backs will suffer this year as a result. 

Wagner,Yanda,Zuttah and Monroe sounds like a pretty strong O line to me as long as Monroe stays relatively healthy.They may not be top 5ish like they were with Osemele,but those four guys are all good football players and make for a strong core.Plus,we're high enough in the second round to either get the top rated OG in the draft on day 2 or trade up to the back half of the first and draft him.His name is Cody Whithair and he has experience playing LT in college too so there's a chance he could slide over and fill in for Monroe if he gets hurt.

Why are the broncos replacing Clady?I haven't been following the broncos or watching that many of their games recently,but from what I remember he was a stud at LT.What changed?If they are serious about getting rid of him I say we wait until they release him.There's no point in any team trading for him with those cap numbers when you could wait until he's released and sign him at a lower number.In either case,Webb won't be taking a pay cut.You can be sure of that.

I don't care if he was a first round pick,drafting Elam was a mistake.They should've just owned up to that and cut him instead of releasing Hill.Hill was by far the better player.Releasing Hill gave us $2.8 million in cap and releasing Elam would've given us $1.8 million.Keeping Hill would've been well worth having that $1 million in cap still on the books.He was young and was a freaking play maker.They probably won't give the fans one,but I wish they would give us an explanation on how they came to the conclusion that keeping Elam was a better move than keeping Hill.Remember the way he covered Graham vs New Orleans in 2014?Elam could never do that.What has Elam proven he's good at anyway???UGH...just like that the euphoria that has been built up over the past few days has been eviscerated.

What happened to the meme I posted?Is there a rule against memes on this board?It wasn't NSFW or anything like that.

21 minutes ago, 52520Andrew said:

Via Schefter

Ravens are giving former Vikings WR Mike Wallace a 2-year, $11.5 million deal, per source.

Sounds alot like the deal I proposed the other day and a few people told me was way too high because he was only worth $2-3 million per year.I told you guys that was about his worth in the market.Marlon could make the $2 million you guys thought Mike Wallace was worth.

We got Weedle???

He's going to sign today guys.I can feel it!

4 hours ago, utalkingtome123 said:

Yea but that was like when Wallace was what 24 and he had ben. Him nor Weddle should be signed by us, they're past their primes. Also ben did make receivers look better and vise versa. A few years ago though I would've loved for him to come here because we would've actually used him right.

I have two words to dismiss your theory that Ben made his WR's look better than they were... EMMANUEL SANDERS!

Ben's WR's and Heath Miller have made him look better,not the other way around.If Ben really did make guys better he would've put up 40 TD's quite a few times since 2010.Since then he's had Wallace,Brown,Sanders,Bryant,Wheaton and Miller yet he hasn't even put up thirty more than once.I personally think people vastly overrate him because of the two SB's the steelers defense won.When Rogers,Brady,Brees and Manning have gotten those type of weapons in the past they set the league on fire.

But anyway,I've went way off the topic this thread is really about.Mike Wallace would give our passing game what we had in 2014 when Flacco had a career year and almost got this horrible secondary past NE in the divisional round.We need that back.We need Mike Wallace!

1 hour ago, bioLarzen said:

Anyone knows the current cap situation of the steelers? With Bryant's year-long suspension looming, they may badly need a good WR - and they know damn well what Wallace is capable of...

They $3.1 mil in space and no one I think they'd really be willing to release in order to sign him.

1 hour ago, rmcjacket23 said:

Yeah there's no way I'd want Wallace at $6.5M a year. There's practically no scenario where he lives up to that deal from a production standpoint.

At $2-3M a year on a short term deal, sure.

Have you been paying attention to the new value of WR's lately?It would probably cost $2 million to bring Marlon back.Marvin Jones is worth $8 million per year,Travis Benjamin and Sanu each got $6 million per year and it cost us $3.5 million per year on a 35 year old TE.Mike Wallace,who is one year removed from solid numbers in Miami,is definitely worth $6.5 million and he'd actually live up to that here.He could produce something like 40 catches 600 yards and 5 or so TD's easily with Joe throwing to him and if he gets enough reps.And that's actually me low balling it for the sake of argument.I really think he'd put up the numbers he did in Miami with Joe and the amount of reps a number two should get.

Let Monroe stay at LT and use some of that $8.5 million to sign Wallace.I'm sure he'd agree to a 2 year $13 million deal.

"To determine "better" free agents, the council looks at average salaries, playing time and postseason awards. Salaries make up the biggest portion of that equation. "

Hopefully that means we'll get a third rounder next year since Osemele is now the highest paid guard in the league and will more than likely play just about ever snap barring injury.With the roster Oakland has and the fact that Denver shouldn't be the 800 hundred pound gorilla that they've been in the west since they got Manning,it wouldn't surprise me if Oakland takes that division and gets him some post season time too.

NO,NO,NO...You guys are misquoting him because what I heard him say was "coming from a place that wasn't willing to grossly overpay me more than the other guy on my team that does the same thing I do but better".

  11 minutes ago, HomeoftheBRAVENS said:

If they're still still interested in Mike Wallace and actually pull off signing him,this could be a special year for Flacco which means it would be special year for us as a team.I'm hoping they find a competent CB and WR in FA so that we can draft Myles Jack in the first round.Short passes to running backs hurt us last year and we need a ILB with speed that can cover RB's.

I think we should hold off on Myles Jack till after his pro day next week. he's coming off a bad Knee injury.

I know what you mean.I've been thinking the same thing about him.I'm not really gung ho about any specific player yet.I've changed my mind about who I think we should draft plenty of times since the end of the season and depending on what happens at that pro day I might change it again.I've been watching alot of Buckner's games lately and the idea of drafting him has been starting to grow on me.What are your thought's on him?

If they're still interested in Mike Wallace and actually pull off signing him,this could be a special year for Flacco which means it would be special year for us as a team.It's a long shot that all of these things will fall in place,but if Gilmore and Smitty rebound completely,Perriman and Maxx develop into even just role playing play makers in year two and we get Wallace,I'd be afraid to see this offense as an opposing fan.I'm hoping they find a competent CB and WR in FA so that we can draft Myles Jack in the first round.Short passes to running backs hurt us last year and we need an ILB with speed that can cover RB's.

2 minutes ago, bioLarzen said:

Don't forget that we must reserve some of it for the rookie contracts.

Releasing Pitta after June 1st will give us enough to sign the rookies.

5 minutes ago, January J said:

Ozzie snaps his fingers and suddenly we have 14+ mill in cap space. Can't wait to see how we utilize it. 

The most exciting thing is that we can afford to spend almost all of it.We'll probably be releasing Pitta after June 1st and that extra 5 mil should be enough to get the rookies signed and still have a million or two left.

After all the signings and restructures we've done I'm completely unaware of our salary cap situation,but I hope it's enough to sign Wallace and atleast entertain the idea of Grimes.I'm not completely sold on Grimes because I think we could get close to what he would bring to us for less with some of the other guys that are out there.

I can't believe Ozzie and company are this serious about Monroe not being in the picture.

I don't like this signing.They wasted valuable cap space that could have went towards signing Pacman,Jerraud Powers or Greg Toler.We already have enough at TE with Gilmore and Williams.The front office should really be looking into pass rushers,CB's and somebody like Mike Wallace who can give us speed on the outside since Perriman is a question mar both health wise and ability wise.

Why are we looking at a TE when all we have on the outside is question marks?Go back to chasing after Pacman and try to Mike Wallace after he gets cut.I don't think the price tag on either of those two should that crazy.

13 hours ago, ellicottraven said:

The past 3 seasons have clearly showed us that Flacco is incapable of carrying this team all on his own. It is imperative that we have a impregnable defense and a whole lot more help on offense for this team to get back to the promised land. So, Ozzie and gang, make it happen. Give this offense weapons so we can be successful. A great O-line, RBs, TEs and WRs is what we really need right now. Otherwise I don't see us getting anywhere.

No one took your bait lol.

15 minutes ago, bioLarzen said:

There's no "big hole" there - Zach Orr could step up and do a decent job today if he needed to. We know of Ozzie's 80/20 rule: if you have a player who offers 80% of another player's performance for 20% of his money, cut the expensive guy and replace him with the cheaper one. That's exactly how Ngata was replaced by Brandon Williams - and that's now Zach Orr may replace Daryl Smith.

 

But, who knows - Smith may even be back.

Zach Orr is not a star in the waiting,IMO.Daryl Smith gave us 121 tackles,3 sacks,3 passes defensed and 1 int last year.And last year was his "bad" year if you want to call it that.If Orr could give us 80 percent of what Daryl can,then that means you're calling him the next Dannell Ellerbe.

That's a good point you made about him maybe coming back at a lower price.I was so shocked that we cut him that I hadn't considered that.We did the same thing with Canty last year.

We just created a huge hole in the middle of our defense for $2.6M.I hope we spend it well.