Purple_City39

Amazing how you choose to talk about people reading into things, then admittedly point out that because you saw the phrase "#1" you took it basically how you wanted it as opposed to how I specifically said it. Hypocrites are an interesting group. I said what I said and I explained it clearly. Continue to do with it how you choose. Either way, many players have been giving starting jobs due to being drafted in the first round. There's zero reason not to do that now. We can talk about Perriman's drops but which WR on the Ravens didn't have an issue with those outside of Camp in very limited time? You give your highest ceiling WR the most chances, plain and simple

Was all of this directed at me, because I don't recall mentioning Aiken, let alone slobbering. I've actually never cared for AIken, so I'm curious as to whether that was an unknown and pointless addition or if it had something to do with what you think I said. In terms of making Perriman a starter, if you noticed I said make him "the #1 or #2" not "a #1". You can definitely make any player you want a starter and see how they do and the Ravens have done it a ton of times with 1st round picks so that's not an issue. Whether he becomes a true #1 WR is another story that we'll have to wait and see

I think the Ravens need to stop putting all their eggs in the free agent WR basket and actually learn to develop their own. Perriman has a ton of potential and has yet to have a true offseason. He will grow from that also but having him be #3 behind 4 older WRs (the 2nd option) wouldn't help that growth either. I'd rather see the Ravens make him the #1 or #2 and see what he can do in 2017 as opposed to waiting until the last year of his deal to watch him break out and go somewhere else (see Kruger, McPhee, etc). All that said, Option 1 I'd be fine with minus the fact I really don't think Boldin should come back

Huh??? By "their defense retired all at once" I take it you mean Hampton, Keisel, Smith, Polamalu, and Taylor? The earliest of all them to retire was Smith after the 2011 season. We'll use that as our starting point. 2011 - 2-0 2010 - 1-2 2009 - 1-1 2008 - 0-3 (ouch) 2007 - 1-1 2006 - 2-0 2005 - 1-1 2004 - 1-1 Stopping here because they didn't have all those players until this season as it was Polamalu's first season as a starter. 8 year record against the Steelers with their defense" 8-9. And that's because we had to start a division 3 rookie QB who was supposed to be the 3rd string QB before injury and sickness happened to the two QBs ahead of him. This also ignores the fact that the Ravens took over the rivalry even though "our defense" started leaving. Thomas, Scott, Pryce, Rolle, and McAlister all left between 07 and 2010.

IMO, Harbaugh is 100% right. The o-line couldn't open up running lanes and struggled at times to protect the QB. I don't care who your coordinator is, run plays won't work if the o-line can't run block and all passing plays need to be quick if they can't pass block. The QB issues don't need discussing. We all saw it. The WRs struggled getting open all season. They also dropped a good amount of passes as a unit. I don't know what "street" WR Kubiak had. Torrey and Steve were his top two with Aiken his #3 (just like he was this season behind Steve and Mike). If Forsett was the street RB (very good career rushing average per attempt even before Baltimore) then surely West and a rookie weren't better options on paper

Honestly, they need to at this point. SSS is gone, Aiken sounds like he's gone, and with Wallace being an 8M hit with a 5.75M savings, I wouldn't be shocked if he's gone. They need to actually start adding playmakers on offense and Davis seems like one. A hands catcher that will fight for passes. We need more of that. Of course being realistic, the Ravens will get another older WR in free agency and then don't address WR again until the 4th or 5th round of the draft

Just the last 3 games of the season? Every other game was carried by the defense? What about the Oakland game were just threw 61%, 300 yards, no INTs and the defense gave up 28? How about Dallas when he threw 65%, 269 yards, no INTs, and the defense gave up 27 points AND let Dallas eat up pretty much all the clock in the second half? New England wasn't part of the last 3 games. 71%, 320 yards, 1 INT, 30 points allowed by Baltimore though. Let's actually take Joe out of it and focus on the defense now. Remember when Eli threw for 400 yards with 212 going to Beckham Jr. in one half? This is almost half a season's worth of bad defensive performances, but you say they carried the team? Don't get me wrong, the offense was not good, but let's not over hype the defense due to skewed numbers from playing the juggernaut offenses in Cleveland, Jacksonville, Buffalo, etc. Did this dominant defense stop one good offense all year? Just checked, every top 10 offense we faced moved up and down the field at will against our top 10 defense. I haven't even mentioned allowing 35 of Pittsburgh's 45 points in the 4th quarter. I haven't mentioned the many 4th quarter leads given up. But yeah, keep telling yourself the defense was actually great or even deserving of that top 10 ranking. Both units need improvement

Likely isn't there at 16. Got a one for you. Corey Davis, WR, Western Michigan

Oh then you're right. Every dime paid to a player will eventually count against the cap. No way to avoid that

Honestly, it seemed like Perriman was the #5 or #6 options behind SSS, Wallace, Pitta, Aiken, and which ever RB Joe wanted to check down to. Honestly, 500 yards and 3 TDs for an player below the #3 option is pretty good. He also probably made the most spectacular catches on the team

I'm just happy we finally beat them. I can overlook week 17 to a degree because the team never came out the locker room

Is this about Tom's recent restructure? If so http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/tom-bradys-new-contract-protects-him-from-deflategate-suspension/ His "base salary" dropped and the cap hit dropped, but he received a 30M bonus if I'm not mistaken and since the salary itself dropped, he ended up saving 2M since there was less to take away during his suspension. Brady's been doing cheap restructures for awhile now that never actually reduce the actual cash he gets, they just manipulate the salary cap hits

This is what I don't get about the Pees hate. We'd have likely been a 3-4 win team if the defense was as bad as many say. Don't get me wrong, they collapsed a lot, especially the garbage they put out the last month, but the defense was primarily the only reason we were in most games

I'm right there with you. Pees showed he could have a top 3 offense with one legit CB and no pass rush. That CB got hurt and everything went to hell. Give him a real pass rush and another legit CB and the defense will shine. I'm not losing my mind of retaining Mornhinweg but I'm not super excited about it either. I'm giving it a "wait and see" approach

Not really surprising. I'm more surprised at all the people that are surprised lol

So what's the OP's opinion now that Harbaugh has kept all coordinators and basically thrown nobody under the bus?

Only real prediction I can think of that doesn't already seem incredibly obvious is that they lowball Wagner because of Lewis. Smith retiring, Dumervil cut, Williams being overpaid elsewhere, Zuttah being replaced, and even possible Wallace and Webb being cut due to money all seem obvious at this point

Without blaming coaches, the issues with the Ravens are as follows imo - penalties - lack of CB depth - inconsistent WRs - inconsistent pass rush Other things aren't "great", but they aren't bad enough to consider it a major issue

Yes, Ozzie drafted Jamal Lewis. Ozzie has been around since the Ravens came to town, so he also picked up Priest Holmes from the undrafted pool as well (since we're going that far back. Outside of Bell, what Steelers RB has been truly that dynamic since, let's say, 2000? Parker and Mendenhall has good 2 or 3 year stints each, but neither was better than Rice (Ray Rice btw). Jamal's legacy can be argued also as one of the few RBs in NFL history to rush for 2k AND was once the single game rushing leader prior to Peterson taking that from him.

Even o-line is very close imo. I'd give them OLB actually over ILB, at least over the last decade. That may be it.

Horrible comparison. I don't get how people can KNOW things aren't even and then try to compare them evenly. Did the 08 Patriots also lose their #1 RB, #1 WR, starting LT, best OLB, starting DE, #1 draft pick,starting center, starting TE, and enough backups to break a team record of players on IR under the current HC? If they did, you have a fair comparison to make. But they didn't.

Why do people keep showing this quote? And what was special that they broke up? Boldin was traded and Pollard was cut. That's pretty much it. Birk retired, Lewis retired, Reed chased money. Where was Pollard in 2014 when the Ravens did well? Hell, where is Pollard in general? Home because 4 different teams decided he wasn't worth keeping and the other 28 decided he wasn't worth signing

I've said it for years, mostly elsewhere, that the problem was health and not Pees. Pick a year, he's had some very injured defenses. I think 2013 was the healthiest defensive year previously and they finished in the top 10. And what he did with that 2014 secondary after Jimmy went down was nothing short of miraculous, especially against the Steelers. Belichick, unfortunately, is on another level of gameplanning

People are too quick to dump speed players in the same category. Just looking at both of their college tapes alone, it was obvious Breshad was going to be the better player. Torrey's tape at MD feature tons of body catches. In fact, off memory from when I watched in 2011, I remember all body catches in stride. The speed was obvious though. Meanwhile, Perriman's tape showed hands catches, high pointing the ball, leaping ability, catches in traffic, etc. Literally everything you'd want of a WR. I'll admit he wasn't on my radar at that point, but after doing research, it was obvious he was a far more athletic WR than Torrey Smith. We're slowly seeing examples that show that statement to be true

I know you're not implying that they should have went with either one, but to me this is no longer an issue. The Ravens ended up picking up an extra 4th rounder and the 5th rounder in their trade backs instead of drafting Spence. This is significant right now to me for two reasons. The 5th rounder obviously became Matt Judon who is performing well, especially under limited snaps. No argument can me made, to me, for taking Spence when we got a pretty decent pass rusher anyway. As of now, we simply have another player who may or may not also contribute, but if he doesn't we at worst still got a good pass rusher. The second reason is that the 4th rounder turned into Chris Moore. Moore is easily the 3rd best, as of now, of Baltimore's 4th round picks, but he was the second one drafted. There's literally nothing to back this up but speculation, but they obviously drafted the players they did in the order they perceived their talents right? So that extra 4th rounder added one player. Assuming no other team grabbed one of our guys, that last player we were able to draft was Kenneth Dixon. For all we know, all our 4th rounders get drafted one Ravens pick sooner, and Dixon doesn't get drafted due to not having that extra pick. So it's not Jack/Spence vs Correa for me. It's Jack/Spence vs Correa, Dixon, and Judon. Easy pick imo