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4 minutes ago, frozen joe flacco fan said:

Perfect lead in for somebody who enjoys beating a dead horse! I must have missed what Ed had to say. I heard what Ray had to say 'bout Joe and I respectfully disagree with him. It would be hard to match the intensity or passion that Steve Smith and Ray Lewis have both demonstrated unless you are Tom Brady, I guess. Personally, I like Joe's unflappable calm under pressure but that's just me. That's why they make different flavors of ice cream, doughnuts and cupcakes. Everybody doesn't think alike and that's OK. Far be it from me to disagree with you, but at the risk of being labeled a cupcake, chill out, boss! 

You disagree? Are you in the locker room with Joe? 

Joe is very flappable, that is the biggest crock about Joe Flacco. Guy sees a few free blitzes and starts hearing footsteps and looks like he wants to go hide in a closet. 

Guess I should take your comment with a grain of salt though since I always forget Joe should be in like 5 Super Bowls if not for his teammates. Sound theory. 

15 hours ago, Moderator 3 said:

Found this very interesting post over in the blogs.  http://boards.baltimoreravens.com/topic/71911-news-ravens-top-offseason-job-help-joe-flacco-play-at-top-tier-level/?do=findComment&comment=2534434

 

Can anyone verify those numbers?  Even I was surprised and I believe Joe can play better than what we saw this year.

 

Literally the moderators here are the biggest Flacco homers. They still have the "thanks to Joe for being plays away from playing in his 4th super bowl". 

How about the stat Flacco has more turnovers than TDs since he signed his mega deal? A few more yards and targets for those WRs when we throw the ball 50 times a game isn't shocking pal.  

RMC - that was way too much to respond to, if you don't think what he said was putting the onus on Flacco for being so highly paid then I think you're choosing to not see that. He didn't roll Flacco under the bus but the message was very clear, Flacco is being paid to be elite and he needs to get there. I'm aware QBR isn't an end all be all stat, but if we can't have an eye test or a statistical conversation then what is the point of talking about it at all?

I get that people are loyal to Joe, blindingly loyal to Joe in fact. I'm also aware Flacco will be the QB of this team for a minimum of 3 more years. That doesn't mean that I have to like it. Feeling like myself and purple nation have been handcuffed by his contract and paired with his subpar play, seems pretty warranted to me. 

4 hours ago, rmcjacket23 said:

It doesn't, nor is it relevant that he has the 2nd highest cap hit among QBs. Certainly doesn't prevent us from fielding a quality football team.

You must've missed the Harbs EOY interview today, with a QB playing below average and making elite money handcuffs the organization.

3 hours ago, usmccharles said:

This is why this conversation is useless:  the Joe haters will not give any form of standards of what will suffice for Joes contract so it just goes back and forth with the same useless banter and people still not understanding market value. 

Not sure how you can make any sort of argument relative to market value.  As you said Flacco's best season was 2014 and he was still the 16th ranked passer in the NFL.  His other 3 seasons since his mega deal - 24, 30, 32nd.  To have a cap hit as high as he does with those kind of results means that the Ravens FO was legitimately robbed during the discussions of "market value".

People want to say that organizations would love to have a QB like Joe, that simply isn't true.  Organizations pay to take a chance on a guy like Joe hoping he can become worth the money - it is all too clear that this gamble didn't pay off.

How is this topic not locked? Moderator loves merging threads about how terrible 5 is but this one can stand alone?

On 12/13/2016 at 7:37 PM, usmccharles said:

You do realize, your implying that we have the second best line in the entire NFL? Right? you do realize how idiotic that is, right?  I seriously think your a certain poster that was previously on here...but i will not mention that name. 

When it rains, it pours

Guess you're that guy. Any adequately intelligent person would agree at no point in my post did I say that, solid guess though.  Sucktard gets the same protection as most starting NFL QBs and his production is comically below average. 

Obviously he is Tom Brady but if you can look yourself in the mirror and honestly answer these questions and still be a Flacco apologist then you're a homer with no hope. 

Who got hit/hurried more on Monday?

Who was the better QB?

Who has better receivers?

Who gets paid more?

Still uncertain if you're able to read but might want to check out some of the articles about Steve Smith at practice, guess us fans aren't the only ones getting sick of Sucktards lackluster performance for an insane price. 

The protection wasn't there? Seriously, what game were you watching? I implore you to go back and watch the Ravens first 3 drives and watch his happy feet (with nobody around him) jump around in the pocket like a QB that's scared to get hit. 

So so sick of all the Flacco apologists that want to make excuses for him, ya we had drops, ya the line broke down twice over the game. It's the NFL, other than Dak who is getting better protection than Joe got last night?

The guy has flat out regressed and his salary and poor play are directly correlating into Ls for the Ravens vs better opponents. His stats are god awful, minus his completion percentage (for obvious reasons). The guy lacks the mental fortitude to stand in the pocket and look down the field. Teams have taken away the middle of the field for Joe and if he's not blindly launching up a 50/50 ball he is throwing it to a back out of the backfield. 

I understand that we are stuck with this sucktard for the next 2-3 years but that doesn't mean that I need to take it quietly. It is time to draft a QB in the 3/4th rd and have Joe look over his shoulder. 

Joe Flacco the biggest disappointment of 2016. Don't ever tell me that bum is elite, we watched elite play last night. 

3 minutes ago, playlikeawhat said:

Am I reading this right?  All the failed blocks, drops, and other non-QB botched executions go away if we simply restructure Joe's contract?  ROFL

That would infer that's flacco has been perfect. 

Another Flacco apologist. 

Can't wait for Flynismo rationalization of that stellar performance by his boy. 5 diving right and sidearming the ball to the ground without being touched should be the Ravens 2016 team picture. 

Flacco apologists are sickening. The line sucks, but if you look at the stats he has been hit fewer per dropback than most NFL QBs. The guy has been flat out terrible this season and people want to just make excuses for him. 

All of his stats are atrocious and he's not been hit nearly as often as you apologists make it out to seem. 

Both Fitz and Smith were hit as much (and more) and found ways to make plays when they needed to. Joe has consistently shown that he is not that QB this year. 

Ive always been a "if we can make it to January I like to have Joe on my squad" guy. Now he's an abysmal QB that gives us no chance to compete in our division.