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Just now, Cville-Raven said:

Jeff Fisher is the worst

Worse: He's average.

What are the Rams waiting for? You've already traded up! Just pick your guy already!!!

5 minutes ago, HomeoftheBRAVENS said:

Yes to Bosa,Ramsey,Jack(even though the lastest news on his knee kind of scares me) or Buckner.NO TO TUNSIL AND ELLIOT!We have our left tackle in place already and there i no reason to take an RB this high.Especially since he's not the next Adrian Peterson.Our first rounder needs to be the best defensive player that fall in our lap.

I'm not a fan of Buckner. I hope for Bosa, Ramsey or Tunsil. I am starting to get worried about Jack, but I'd understand if Oz takes the gamble. He's special, when healthy. I'm against a RB pick in the top 10, even for someone as talented as Elliot.

17 hours ago, GrimCoconut said:

Bosa is still just 20-years-old. He's got some growing to do. Last time we took a guy like him--a pass rusher who was young and had room to grow--it was Terrell Suggs, interestingly enough. He [Suggs] also ran a slower 40 than expected. We're taking Bosa. I'm convinced. I think you may want to come to accept this very likely probability.

People really soured on him, because he didn't live up to the ridiculous hype that was build up around him by the media. I really like him. I like, that he gets compliments for his technique already. That shows an ability and desire to learn. He'll improve greatly under NFL coaching, imho. I'm not sure, if he falls to us, but I'd love that.

Thanks god for the Eagles and Rams. Bosa, Tunsil, Jack or Ramsey. Whoever we draft, we'll get a good one.

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7 minutes ago, Deflated Football said:

I was one of those that wanted Judge Tread at six lol. Now I'm hoping he makes it to our second round pick via a free fall like Alshon. 

Ditto. Doubt he would make it past the Browns, though.

10 minutes ago, TDubbs said:

TBH though, I'm thrilled that one of these top 2 QB's won't be ruined yet again by the Browns. The Browns got a good haul for that pick, but the big question is what will they do with it? Certainly didn't work out with the Falcons and them getting Julio. 

I have to agree with the Browns here, though. I wouldn't have much confidence in those QBs either. I'd actually be concerned, if they manage to land a guy like Connor Cook in the second. I feel like he's being underrated and for once the Browns do have a HC, who can get the most out of a QB. Hue got alot our of Andy Dalton last season. People were considering him a MVP candidate. I repeat: I'M TALKING ABOUT ANDY DALTON HERE!!!

46 minutes ago, beanfigger said:

I think I might agree with your top 2. I really want to believe there's a chance at Ramsey, but I highly doubt he lasts past four. It's almost be better if SD takes him, which would give us a slight chance at Tunsil. If SD take Tunsil, we get neither.

That's right on the money. Imho:

1.Ramsey

2.Tunsil

3.Jack

4.Bosa

I'm not very high on Buckner and am glad, that thanks to the Eagles we don't HAVE TO take him. We're doing fine,when Bosa is the "worst case scenario". Ramsey and Tunsil remain the surest picks for me, imho.

On 16.4.2016 at 3:19 PM, GrimCoconut said:

I just can't see SD passing on Tunsil. It seems so foreign a concept for me. 

I feel alot of the people, who say that, just don't want the Ravens to pick a LT. Just a question: Would you want them (the Ravens) to take Tunsil? Because I think, that outside of Ramsey, Tunsil would be the best possible pick for Baltimore.

1 minute ago, ellicottraven said:

If Tunsil is available I think we take him. If he's gone, I see us take Buckner or Jack. 

Bosa might still be there.

1 minute ago, Edgar said:

Can't wait for the draft. Christmas in April.

Curious to see how the browns continue to mess this up.

How did they mess up? That's a great trade. Neither Wentz or Goff are worth the 2nd overall pick and their team needs alot of help.

8 minutes ago, ellicottraven said:

YEAH! I love the Browns so much I could actually visit Cleveland in my lifetime!!!!

Welcome to Baltimore stud prospect whoever you are!!

Yeah, the trade with the Browns settles the 1st and 2nd pick. I don't see Ramsey making it to the Ravens, but everyone else Tunsil, Bosa and Jack might be available.

The Browns just fleeced Philly. The No.2, No. 77 and No. 100 pick for their 2nd overall pick. Nice trade for the Brownies! Good luck with your lackluster rookie QB Eagles.

I actually really like his picks.

38 minutes ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

A great tackle isn't As easy to retain, but with a great tackle and OL in general you don't need to invest As much in the rest of the offense. Dbs can't cover a wr for more than 4 seconds, a great run game and lots of time to throw makes your quality of wrs moot. 

True. It's also easier to find a decent guard or center, so you can build around a LT. Tunsil would take away pressue from Oz to find good WRs, which has been a big challenge for our FO (lets be honest ). You can't underestimate how much this would help the FO, which is important. Ozzie has been great at finding OGs. Yanda, KO, Grubbs, but WRs? Ugh.

22 minutes ago, ALPHA said:

I think what he's alluding to is there is good value in an average LT because the going rate for an elite top five LT is enormous, for example Tyron Smith signed a $110 million dollar extension but he can only block one player and the last I heard the Boys still allowed 30 sacks and Romo still ended up on IR.

Now if Tunsil is everything people say he then in three years you're looking down the barrel of a $15M tag and an agent urging him to test free agency where someone will offer him $120 million. We couldn't even pay KO!

Now I'm not lobbying for Hurst as he's the worst lineman we've ever had, I'm just saying there are 5 players in an offensive line.

The Cowboys also had a 12-4 record and turned Demarco Murray into a star thanks to that OL in 2014. So a great tackle costs alot and that makes it harder to retain players? That's true for any player. Football is a teamsport.

1 hour ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

Why are you downtalking tunsil on every thread? He's the best prospect in the class bar none. He is a plug and play blue chip LT and we have a dumpster fire situation at LT. the question isn't how does tunsil help us, the question is what do you think this teams o-line is capable of?

I feel like people got spoiled by Flaccos durability. We always had issues with the LT position, except for that one time when Bryant McKinnie suddenly balled out during the playoffs. Wonder how that worked out...

1 minute ago, BOLDnPurPnBlacK said:

Idk. Dallas is in win now mode, and i think a stud RB who can run power, zone, inside, outside, can catch, and block does the most for their chances to win especially with that offensive line compared to any other player available.

If they're winning anything in Romo's career, its going to be on the back of the offense. It makes sense to take by far the best offensive weapon in the draft.

Not sold that they will, but it is a definite possibility in my mind.

The RB position isn't valuable enough for Zeke to go in the top5. He's good, but he's not Patrick Peterson. They'll probably can pick up Henry in the 2nd. Heck, with the OL they have in Dallas they can make a bunch of good RB prospects look great, anyway. So why waste the top5 pick on a rb, when they can pick up Ramsey or Jack and improve their defense?

25 minutes ago, BOLDnPurPnBlacK said:

The fact that there are now possible scenarios where literally any player (Tunsil, Ramsey, Jack, Bosa, etc...) could end up getting to us is crazy.

If both QBs and Zeke go in the top 5, which is a definite possibility now, we're going to have a top 3 pick overall in terms of talent. A week ago I had completely written off Tunsil and Ramsey ever getting to us.

 

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Dan Jeremiah actually has us getting Tunsil now. He has Wentz, Goff, Ramsey, Jack, Bosa and then Tunsil to us.

Interesting.... but i dont expect SD to pass up on Tunsil since Rivers is clearly their best chance at winning; and one defensive player isnt going to change things for them. However, a protected Rivers could win games.

In that case Bosa would be the most probable pick (I still forsee the Chargers taking Ramsey, though):

1. Wentz

2. Goff

3. Tunsil

4. Ramsey

5. Jack/Bosa

6. Jack/Bosa

I can't see any team pass on Jack, unless it's for Tunsil or Ramsey. So in that case we pick between Buckner and Bosa. Clearly Bosa would fit the bigger need.

4 minutes ago, Tank 92 said:

If Tunsil is there at 6 I'll be doing cartwheels down Pratt Street.  Tunsil won't be there at 6. I pray I'm wrong.

If the Chargers pass on Tunsil, and they very well might in favor of Ramsey, Tunsil will fall to us, imho. He has suddenly become the most likely prospect to fall to us. Thx Rams.

2 minutes ago, zuilyas said:

I've heard that from others, too. Why would SD take Jack when they have Te'o and DP52?

SD seems pretty high on Ramsey. That's the player I see them taking. I feel like Tunsil is becoming the most likely player to fall to us.

1 minute ago, Clmraven said:

Apparently they see Jack as a DB and a replacement for Weddle.

They might as well go with Ramsey, who has experience as a safety.

1 minute ago, Kinda_Dante said:

I think this would be the best case scenario. If two QB's go and someone picks Buckner before us I think that would be 3 players the Ravens were not interested in drafting.

That leaves DAL, JAX and SD. And either Bosa, Ramsey, Tunsil or Jack would fall to us. I'd be okay with either one of them. Tunsil seems like the safest pick, though.

So worst case scenario:

1. Wentz

2. Ramsey

3. Tunsil

4. Jack

5. Bosa

And we're stuck with Buckner, right?

2 minutes ago, DomMcRaven said:

I'll believe it when I see it. I hope CLE still goes for a QB. The possibility of getting either Tunsil (most likely going to SD), Bosa, Ramsey, or Jack sounds pretty exciting to me.

Agreed. Ramsey would be really hard to pass on for the Browns.

4 minutes ago, ellicottraven said:

If that is true then the Rams are making a play for Goff to trade up to #1 and not necessarily Wentz.

Goff is not well equiped to play in an open air stadium in the AFCN. Not enough arm strength. That's not a good pick for Cleveland at all.