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8 - 0 I would agree with IF they had Steve Smith healthy. Ravens do have a schedule that they could still get some W's but with no true play maker on offense I can see 8 - 8. Justin would have to run wild and one of the WR's really step up. The defense would have to start creating turnovers to get some short fields and stop drives. There is no question the Ravens will challenge themselves because that's who they are. Hardest game is Cincy and at that point they might not have anything to play for. Go for it ! 10 - 6 would be crazy.

What can you say about Ray ........ i get pumped just listening to him at my desk. Has the heart of a lion when it comes to life and football. Truly inspirational. I have to say one more thing we as fans have been critical of the our football team, BUT the one thing I'm proud of is how they fight every game. No quit and as a fan I love that about them. Team !

O.K. my fellow Ravens fan I hate to say it, but I'm done with the NFL. The officiating not just with the Ravens, but throughout the other games is a joke. The product sucks ! NFL has neuter the defenses and like a lot of you have said call penalties whenever they feel like it. I've seen so many blown calls with the ref looking right at the play. Unreal. I will always bleed purple, but will be a fan from afar now.

My 5 things are: 1) No big deep balls allowed on defense 2) Swarm tackling like back in the day. 3) Create some turnovers on D 4) Flacco turns into January Joe in October 5) Forsett runs for over a 100. Let's GO Ravens get that W !

What's up with the NFL screwing the Ravens with the schedule lately ? This year its brutal and last year their were weeks that were tough as well. Seems like the Patriots , Steelers and others have more friendly schedules. Don't get it ............ back out WEST once again. The schedule this year has been in my opinion the #1 thing as to why we stink. Teams like to have the home games early rather than late. Things are just more comfortable and easier to get in a groove early and then take it onto the road. Ravens haven't been able to get into groove traveling and playing in hustle environments. Not cool NFL not cool at all.

Good work Garrett. those 2 calls were blatant. Refs make calls when they want 2. that's why us as fans get so frustrated. No accountability what so ever. These teams and players put in a lot of hard work and simple calls like that can cost you a game. Unacceptable. Is it me or does it seems like their is a flag on just about every punt across the league? Crazy it seems that way to me.

Play with heart and don't give up. Other than that I see them having to redo Joe's contract to what MOST QBs make yearly around 15 a season. Next draft SPEED on both sides of the ball. First pick I would go for the next Suggs. Lock up Tucker , try to get KO on board , try and get a true free safety & wide out in free agency.

Now watch Melvin have success in New England ....... because of COACHING and playing to his strengths. Classic Coach B rubbing taking a swipe at the Ravens.

A sinkhole is kinda like this season. Very appropriate.

IF this team wants to save face then go all out against the Cardinals. Play the Raven Way ! Don't go out like you have been these past few weeks only to be embarrassed on Monday night football. This is your Super Bowl !

"Its funny to see how fickle this fan base is." Fickle ? I would say the fan base is just waking up to the fact that their is no leadership now that Suggs is gone. Watching the Pats last night got me thinking - they lost 3 CBs and haven't missed a beat. Brady other then Moss has never had a true #1 never misses a beat. Never had a true #1 RB never misses a beat and why you ask .... Belichick adjust to his personal and plays to their strengths that's what great coaches do. Belichick is the Patriots not Brady remember when Brady tore his ACL and Matt Cassel came in and played well because Coach B adjusted the game plan. Cassel went on to sign a big deal only to bomb. Without Ray Lewis and Ed Reed and now Suggs the Ravens aren't coming back anytime soon and that's the harsh reality. Harbs a good guy but not the coach or leader we all thought he was that title goes to Lewis , Reed and Suggs.

"Doesn't look at pictures on the sidelines like all the great ones do" now that you mention that I can't remember a time when I've EVER seen him do that. Great point.

MY 10 takeaways: 1) Steve Smith is a Pros Pro 2) Foseett and Yanda are Pros 3) The rest and including the coaches are there for a paycheck. 4) Jimmy Smith isn't a shutdown corner 5) No fire No desire to win 6) Marlon Brown needs to go 7) No speed on both sides of the ball 8) What's up with the O line walking in the 2 minute drill ??? Again No Desire 9) Monroe is a bum 10) No leadership ! 11) And one extra - Flacco IS NOT ELITE. All the past success truly goes to players Like Ogden, Lewis , Reed and Suggs not the coaches or management. Very disappointed Ravens fan. : (

this isn't baseball or basketball in regards to the trades.

My gut tells me Bisciotti will clean house IF this team doesn't get to 9 - 7 and that includes Ozzie. Hope they can get it together and it starts this week in San Fran.

Yeah that 21 mill in dead money has really been the elephant in the room. Also I know Pita is a great guy and a good player BUT why did Ozzie sign him with a major hip concern ? Penalties are a killer and needs to be cleaned up. Fine the players John or make them to extra work SOMETHING ! On a brighter side Ravens are favorite again , been favorites 5 out of 6 games a sign that even Vegas thinks the Ravens are a good team , but have just been snake bitten.

At this point, Tucker is really the only bright spot on this team.

Sad to say, but this team is snake bitten. A lot of injuries last year and now again this year. A dark cloud over the palace.....

These Ravens are like the Raiders of the past. No discipline what so ever. Penalties both on offense and defense. STUPID penalties ! Injuries are part of the game and are of no excuse. The team is just not playing good football and one would have to look at the coaching staff. Pees I think has run his course and the Ravens new a young aggressive up and coming coach to take over and put the Ravens D back on the map. Watching this D and not being able to get off the field on 3rd down is pathetic to say the least. The real question is gonna be how Flacco and contract to worked out. He better realize that he's not Arron Rodgers or Tom Brady and take a deal the will allow the Ravens to get some talent on this team. Like most of us on this message board we had high hopes for this team and to watch the pathetic display is truly frustrating.

Camp can play just has to work on his legs get them condition right. I can see him having a long career with the Ravens. Actually glad they IR him gives him time to get his body right. Get after it Camp !

1st extend Yanda make him a Raven for life free up some cash. 2nd pay Justin Tucker make him highest paid kicker and lock him up. 3rd trade for VINCENT JACKSON. Flacco point of attack throws and Jackson and ability to get down field would be the perfect fit.

If D doesn't show improvement Thursday , Pees is gone. after a thursday night game or bye week is where coaches get canned.

Get better players.

just take one game at a time. season starts Thursday against your arch rivals what better way to get back on track then get that first W.

Time to shake things up and look to the future. Flacco better not be difficult with his contract. 15 per season is fair and hopefully he agrees. If not maybe part ways with him as well.