MTRavensFan

That's exactly what i was trying to say - just because we're not willing to mortgage the farm right now doesn't mean we're done trying to improve this year, or don't feel we can stilll be competitve. I just get a little frustrated with the doom and gloomers saying our season is over after 4 hard-fought games

Absolutely agree with you there. Draft picks are worth their weight in gold when you're as cash-strapped as we are. I was more referring to the suggestion that Ozzie's maybe counting on a top 15 pick, and done making moves. I seriously doubt we do anything flashy (we simply can't afford it), and I'm sure they want to see how Givens contributes before making any further decisions. I trust that Ozzie won't trade long-term value for the quick fix.

Uh, no. A lot of us still have faith we can right this ship with just a little help. Thus all the discussion about a trade soon. I seriously doubt Ozzie's given up on this season either.

I don't think it was that at all. I think Torrey left because of the way the team turned it's back on Rice. They were really close, and Torrey stood by Ray through the whole mess, believing the team was more of a family than a business, and was pretty disillusioned to find out that it wasn't.Anyway, welcome to Baltimore Chris Givens!!! We need all the help we can get!

I'd love any one of those guys. Still hoping Givens breaks breaks out for us, though.

2 QB league - Starting Matt Ryan, but who for the second? Carson Palmer, Derek Carr, or Tyrod? I'm leaning toward Carr because of the matchup, but Tyrod's been very good to me so far.

somebody said herniated disc in his back. haven't seen confirmation on that yet, but it makes sense, prob. needs surgery.

No wonder Mitchell's on his hit list! Nothing to do now but ice up, son. Get well, Smitty!

Amen to that. And it's getting really, really old. The kid played a great game, celebrating THAT does not equal "putting too much faith in the guy", it's just being happy about something that actually happened. Making pessimistic predictions about things that may never happen while purporting to be a "realist" is the ultimate in hypocrisy.

Truth.

Great news.

maybe they shouldn't have, but maybe they should have won the first three. I, too, will take an ugly win right now. I LOVE Justin Tucker!!!!

Sorry, nobody had any real info at that point. The admins just posted an article on the front page http://www.baltimoreravens.com/news/article-1/Report-Breshad-Perriman-Out-Indefinitely-After-Knee-Surgery/4e612787-00a6-4269-9324-271e54d4fac0 We try not to post any updates before they're official - you'd be amazed at the amount of mis-information out there - but steer the conversations to the Forums, where lots of more in-depth conversations happen, and updates from outside sources can usually be found before the team announcements. The info you were looking for was in the last page of that topic (in the forums posts go from oldest to most recent, opposite from what you're used to in the blogs on the home page). Definitely worth checking out

that's not what he's saying. He's saying bench the starters and give some of the other guys a shot to do better.

Let's try and stay on topic folks. The Perriman injury thread is HERE: http://boards.baltimoreravens.com/topic/65397-perriman-injury-updates/ And no, nobody has a timetable for his return yet.

Ah, thanks

I think Pitta's already IRDR, and you're only allowed one.

Haha. Do you think they'd take Schaub for Q, I hear their QB sucks big time. Honestly, what I wouldn't give to have both Boldin and Torrey back, what a total waste those guys playing with Krappernick.

Dr. Leigh Anne talking to CJ. That makes me nervous.

What? No Flag? NO FLAG!!!!!

IV on the sideline. Awesome.

he puked, lol. So what was the penalty? they didn't even say, then cut to commercial. I'm assuming roughing the passer???

Brandon Williams coming alive.

Well, in the spirit of totally changing things up in the second half, I'm gonna start drinking with you guys

Agreed. Trestman, "the QB whisperer " indeed. He's ruined our QB.